theistic evolution - don't try this at home

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I agree with you. I think anyone who accepts evolution is an idiot. Many Christians that claim to believe that the Scripture is telling the truth about Y-shua, that some man claimed to be god, died on a cross rose on the third day coming back again is the savior of the world, then turn around and say He did not know what He is talking about in Gen. are equal to an atheist. I mean isn't that foolishness. It's all foolishness to those who do not believe. ALL 66 BOOKS EVEN GENIUSNESS ARE THE INFALLIBLE, INERRANT WORD OF G-D!!!! My dad tells me I have to believe even people that believe in evolution can really be saved, but for me I question that!!!! Thank G-d, He (G-d) decides who is saved and not me!!!
Idiot is a strong word. More like not rooted in His words to know the truth that the evolution theory is a false science because it plainly opposes His words.

1 Timothy 6:[SUP]20 [/SUP]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:[SUP]21 [/SUP]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

Matthew 13:[SUP]20 [/SUP]But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;[SUP] 21[/SUP]Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

2 Timothy 3:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.[SUP] 13 [/SUP]But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;[SUP] 15 [/SUP]And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.[SUP] 16 [/SUP]All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:[SUP]17 [/SUP]That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Colossians 2:[SUP]5 [/SUP]For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.[SUP]6 [/SUP]As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:[SUP] 7 [/SUP]Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.[SUP] 8 [/SUP]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.[SUP]9 [/SUP]For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.[SUP]10 [/SUP]And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some ( Just as the evolution theory has done ).[SUP] 19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

There is no way to entertain theistic evolution as even remotely true without acknowledging how the evolution theory alone overthrows the faith of some, as taking that risk of causing a believer to stumble.
 
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It's easier to teach people to fear/hate/reject something 'new' than it is to teach them how to discern the pieces that are correct from the pieces that erroneous within that same new concept. <--think about that for a minute and decide for yourself whether it is true.

People have been taught to fear/hate/reject even the word "evolve" because of how much they have been taught to hate/fear the word "evolution". And THAT without even looking into the truth of what it means. (BTW, I'm not talking about the doctrine of evolution, just the word "evolve".) If you were taught (or have learned) to hate the word "evolve", please let me ask you this... Have you ever even looked it up to see what it means?".

e·volve
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    develop gradually, especially from a simple to a more complex form.
    "the company has evolved into a major chemical manufacturer"
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Do you not know that even Jesus himself EXPECTS to see this within his disciples?<---Now isn't that a bold statement? :)

We're fine saying Jesus expects to see his disciples "develop, progress, advance" ...but if we use a different word to express the same thing..."Jesus expects to see his disciples "evolve" ...we're likely to be labeled as heretics. Have you considered how absurd that is??

ab·surd
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  • wildly unreasonable, illogical, or inappropriate.
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    • arousing amusement or derision; ridiculous.




This is what evolve means to me:

The entire premise of your post is that people associate the word evolve with evolution, which "people" do not. These are just the people in your head.

This convoluted attempt at philosophy has already been done better:

<--think about that for a minute and decide for yourself whether it is true.

 

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Idiot is a strong word. More like not rooted in His words to know the truth that the evolution theory is a false science because it plainly opposes His words.
So plainly, that I am still waiting for one explicit verse against theistic evolution.

And for answers to my questions like:

Why is our body called "animal" in Greek.

HOw did Noah get 9 million species/kinds on ark.

What does "earth brought forth creatures" mean.

Etc.
 
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So plainly, that I am still waiting for one explicit verse against theistic evolution.
idk what you are waiting for, I gave you the creation, the dirt, and the rib, and then you took off because you couldn't talk your way out of your incompatible beliefs.

If you believe that God literally took a clay from the ground, handmade some figure like a golem and then made it live, its on you. I am not interested in the discussion with you anymore
You think rejecting verses that go against your beliefs is arguing? That's cherry picking

 
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So plainly, that I am still waiting for one explicit verse against theistic evolution.

And for answers to my questions like:

Why is our body called "animal" in Greek.

HOw did Noah get 9 million species/kinds on ark.

What does "earth brought forth creatures" mean.

Etc.
noah didnt need to get millions of species. just kinds of animals. dogs , not every special breed of dogs.

our body is not called animal in greek. its not translated that way and those guys probably know greek better than u trying to pick and choose something to fit your false teaching of evolution

God literally took clay from the ground and handmade some figure like a golem and then made it live. thats on me as u said. thats what the bible says.
 

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noah didnt need to get millions of species. just kinds of animals. dogs , not every special breed of dogs.

our body is not called animal in greek. its not translated that way and those guys probably know greek better than u trying to pick and choose something to fit your false teaching of evolution

God literally took clay from the ground and handmade some figure like a golem and then made it live. thats on me as u said. thats what the bible says.
Species = kind.

Dogs is one species.

Species is the largest group of animals that can have a fertile offspring.

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Our body is literaly "animal" in Greek. Sometimes you take things literally (dust of earth), sometimes you do not and use "scholars know better" instead, while you reject scholars on other places... confusing.
 
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Our body is literaly "animal" in Greek. Sometimes you take things literally (dust of earth), sometimes you do not and use "scholars know better" instead, while you reject scholars on other places... confusing.
sóma: a body​
Original Word: σῶμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: sóma
Phonetic Spelling: (so'-mah)
Short Definition: body, flesh
Definition: body, flesh; the body of the Church.HELPS Word-studies
4983 sṓma – the physical body. 4983 (sṓma) is also used figuratively of the mystical Body of Christ (= the Church, the one people of God).

Not seeing "animal" anywhere. You not only take interpretive liberties with scripture, you do it with words in general. I don't think you are lying, at least you are doing it to yourself as well, but why claim it means animal? Did you and a couple evolution dudes come up with this and start creating your own language?

animal is this:

ζώο

zóo

Where did you come up with ζώο being σῶμα ? This is absurd behavior for you to have and expect us to believe on your authority.
 
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So plainly, that I am still waiting for one explicit verse against theistic evolution.
You mean you are waiting for Him to show you your error? If your mind is made up, you are not going to see the truth.

And for answers to my questions like:

Why is our body called "animal" in Greek.
We are not plants.

HOw did Noah get 9 million species/kinds on ark.
He didn't have to. All you see today in varieties are from the limited amount of that kind collected on the ark.

What does "earth brought forth creatures" mean.
Same as the water brought forth; God spoke.. and it was done. It does not mean the earth brought them forth but where the animals were brought forth... on the earth. Same goes for the waters. God spoke and the place for which He said they were to be created, it was brought forth in.

While grossly overlooking the day defined as there was evening and there was morning each day.

And Jesus validated the creation of the sabbath day was made for man, and it was still only a day. How can that not set the definition for the other days of the week?

Jesus validated the first creation of man and woman by the first performance of marriage.

Death was not in the world yet until sin came. There would be no point in paying the penalty for our sins which is death if death was already in the world before sin had come.

Is death good? Then nothing in creation can be considered good if death was already there if they were created to die. Nobody in this world would call death good. Nobody in this world would say that growing older and feeble is good, but I believe God created us to be good and to live forever along with the rest of His creation until the fall. There was no 2nd Law of Thermodynamics until the fall.

Scientists are even saying that the speed of light is slowing down. Apparently they can observe that to prove it.

The evolution theory is in all respect, is about macroevolution; not microevolution. Micro evolution or the Law of Biogenesis, can be observed and proven. Macroevolution can never be observed nor proven. All findings has been presented to the evolutionary point of view. One can present findings to creationism point of view. It is not proven, but I dare say in respect to His words, I believe His words, even though I do wonder about how some creationists presents these findings.

Your problem is you refuse to ask Him for help in seeing the truth in His words as it is plainly written for you to see, because you refuse to doubt the evolution theory, and so you doubt what you read in His words.

Here is a little help in how to read Genesis.

Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

That verse 1 above is the topic. The following verses is showing the beginning in how God did it. Proof of that is when the heavens were not created until the fourth day. And yet the plants were created a day before the sun was. So a day cannot last more than an evening and morning each day.

There was no earth. Read the verses in that light as God calls it into existence after day one.

[SUP]2[/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


The light is the Word of God, the Son of God.

John 1:[SUP]9 [/SUP]That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.[SUP] 10 [/SUP]He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not....[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

When He was crucified and was experiencing that separation from the Father on the cross when He took our sins upon Himself, there was an unexplained darkness in the land.

Matthew 27:[SUP]45 [/SUP]Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.[SUP]46 [/SUP]And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Annually, there would be a full moon at the Passover so there was no eclipse that the secular historians, Thallus & Phlegon, had assumed was the cause for that darkness. It was another historian, Julius Africanus, that corrected Thallus for his assumption as recorded in its histories.

https://creation.com/darkness-at-the-crucifixion-metaphor-or-real-history

From the link above

Africanus composed a five volume History of the World around AD 221. He was also a pagan convert to Christianity. His historical scholarship so impressed Roman Emperor Alexander Severus that Africanus was entrusted with the official responsibility of building the Emperor’s library at the Pantheon in Rome. Africanus writes:
On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun. For the Hebrews celebrate the passover on the 14th day according to the moon, and the passion of our Savior falls on the day before the passover; but an eclipse of the sun takes place only when the moon comes under the sun. And it cannot happen at any other time but in the interval between the first day of the new moon and the last of the old, that is, at their junction: how then should an eclipse be supposed to happen when the moon is almost diametrically opposite the sun? Let opinion pass however; let it carry the majority with it; and let this portent of the world be deemed an eclipse of the sun, like others a portent only to the eye. Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Caesar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth hour to the ninth—manifestly that one of which we speak. But what has an eclipse in common with an earthquake, the rending rocks, and the resurrection of the dead, and so great a perturbation throughout the universe? Surely no such event as this is recorded for a long period.[SUP]8[/SUP]​
Africanus rightly argues that a solar eclipse could not have occurred during the lunar cycle of the Passover, as this diagram shows. He also questions the link between an eclipse, an earthquake, and the miraculous events recorded in Matthew’s Gospel. Eclipses do not set off earthquakes and bodily resurrections. We also know that eclipses only last for several minutes, not three hours. For Africanus, naturalistic explanations for the darkness at the crucifixion were grossly insufficient, as he showed by applying real science.
That means the sun went out, the light from the full moon was out, and although it did not mention it, the lights from the stars went out because our Saviour took our sins upon Himself and that affected the lights in creation.

2 Corinthians 5:[SUP]20 [/SUP]Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.[SUP]21 [/SUP]For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

So you better believe creation and living creatures are awaiting deliverance from corruption for the manifestations of the sons of God.

Romans 8:[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,[SUP]21 [/SUP]Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.[SUP]22 [/SUP]For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

So why not look at what the scripture provides the answers to the questions of our existence rather than that false science? Jesus validated scripture, saying it cannot be broken. The Jews used scriptures to stone false prophets by.

Jesus referenced Noah's flood as a warning to what is coming on the earth for present day believers to be ready for.

If you look for excuses not to believe the Bible, then that is what you are going to find. If you look for the answers in the truth of His words with His help, you will find them. He will even help you see how false that macroevolution is in real life.
 

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Theistic evolution is an oxymoron concept.

Genesis 1:1
In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.

Explain how evolution is involved!!!

Big bang evolution violates 5 seperate scientific laws.
 
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Sometimes you take things literally (dust of earth), sometimes you do not and use "scholars know better" instead, while you reject scholars on other places... confusing.
thanks. u are right on this. im a hypocrite in this regard i confess it. sorry
 

trofimus

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You mean you are waiting for Him to show you your error? If your mind is made up, you are not going to see the truth.



We are not plants.



He didn't have to. All you see today in varieties are from the limited amount of that kind collected on the ark.



Same as the water brought forth; God spoke.. and it was done. It does not mean the earth brought them forth but where the animals were brought forth... on the earth. Same goes for the waters. God spoke and the place for which He said they were to be created, it was brought forth in.



While grossly overlooking the day defined as there was evening and there was morning each day.

And Jesus validated the creation of the sabbath day was made for man, and it was still only a day. How can that not set the definition for the other days of the week?

Jesus validated the first creation of man and woman by the first performance of marriage.

Death was not in the world yet until sin came. There would be no point in paying the penalty for our sins which is death if death was already in the world before sin had come.

Is death good? Then nothing in creation can be considered good if death was already there if they were created to die. Nobody in this world would call death good. Nobody in this world would say that growing older and feeble is good, but I believe God created us to be good and to live forever along with the rest of His creation until the fall. There was no 2nd Law of Thermodynamics until the fall.

Scientists are even saying that the speed of light is slowing down. Apparently they can observe that to prove it.

The evolution theory is in all respect, is about macroevolution; not microevolution. Micro evolution or the Law of Biogenesis, can be observed and proven. Macroevolution can never be observed nor proven. All findings has been presented to the evolutionary point of view. One can present findings to creationism point of view. It is not proven, but I dare say in respect to His words, I believe His words, even though I do wonder about how some creationists presents these findings.

Your problem is you refuse to ask Him for help in seeing the truth in His words as it is plainly written for you to see, because you refuse to doubt the evolution theory, and so you doubt what you read in His words.

Here is a little help in how to read Genesis.

Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

That verse 1 above is the topic. The following verses is showing the beginning in how God did it. Proof of that is when the heavens were not created until the fourth day. And yet the plants were created a day before the sun was. So a day cannot last more than an evening and morning each day.

There was no earth. Read the verses in that light as God calls it into existence after day one.

[SUP]2[/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


The light is the Word of God, the Son of God.

John 1:[SUP]9 [/SUP]That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.[SUP] 10 [/SUP]He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not....[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

When He was crucified and was experiencing that separation from the Father on the cross when He took our sins upon Himself, there was an unexplained darkness in the land.

Matthew 27:[SUP]45 [/SUP]Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.[SUP]46 [/SUP]And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Annually, there would be a full moon at the Passover so there was no eclipse that the secular historians, Thallus & Phlegon, had assumed was the cause for that darkness. It was another historian, Julius Africanus, that corrected Thallus for his assumption as recorded in its histories.

https://creation.com/darkness-at-the-crucifixion-metaphor-or-real-history

From the link above



That means the sun went out, the light from the full moon was out, and although it did not mention it, the lights from the stars went out because our Saviour took our sins upon Himself and that affected the lights in creation.

2 Corinthians 5:[SUP]20 [/SUP]Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.[SUP]21 [/SUP]For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

So you better believe creation and living creatures are awaiting deliverance from corruption for the manifestations of the sons of God.

Romans 8:[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,[SUP]21 [/SUP]Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.[SUP]22 [/SUP]For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

So why not look at what the scripture provides the answers to the questions of our existence rather than that false science? Jesus validated scripture, saying it cannot be broken. The Jews used scriptures to stone false prophets by.

Jesus referenced Noah's flood as a warning to what is coming on the earth for present day believers to be ready for.

If you look for excuses not to believe the Bible, then that is what you are going to find. If you look for the answers in the truth of His words with His help, you will find them. He will even help you see how false that macroevolution is in real life.
Its really horrible how difficult it is for you to give clear and good answers.

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On my question, why is our body called animal, you say "we are not plants". Ah, Ok, perfect answer, everything is cleared now.

On my question how did Noah took care (or got on ark, whatever) 9 million of species, you response is that 9 million species evolved from few on ark. Good, evolution proved.

On my question what does it mean that "earth brought forth animals" you say "It does not mean the earth brought them forth."

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And then you start your huge agenda of your own reasoning about something else.
 
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Its really horrible how difficult it is for you to give clear and good answers.---

On my question, why is our body called animal, you say "we are not plants". Ah, Ok, perfect answer, everything is cleared now.

On my question how did Noah took care (or got on ark, whatever) 9 million of species, you response is that 9 million species evolved from few on ark. Good, evolution proved.

On my question what does it mean that "earth brought forth animals" you say "It does not mean the earth brought them forth."

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And then you start your huge agenda of your own reasoning about something else.
Let me give you the short version then.

I can't help you. Only Jesus can. But you don't want His help to find the answers you seek. You just want to mock those who try to help you by His words.

Matthew 7:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.[SUP]7 [/SUP]Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:[SUP]8 [/SUP]For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
 

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Its really horrible how difficult it is for you to give clear and good answers.

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On my question, why is our body called animal, you say "we are not plants". Ah, Ok, perfect answer, everything is cleared now.

On my question how did Noah took care (or got on ark, whatever) 9 million of species, you response is that 9 million species evolved from few on ark. Good, evolution proved.

On my question what does it mean that "earth brought forth animals" you say "It does not mean the earth brought them forth."

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And then you start your huge agenda of your own reasoning about something else.
Of course they will not give you a clear and specific answer to your questions and comments, because they can't maintain their position if they do.

Some people want to find the truth, and some just want to argue. (flat earth is a good example)
 

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Let me give you the short version then.

I can't help you. Only Jesus can. But you don't want His help to find the answers you seek. You just want to mock those who try to help you by His words.

Matthew 7:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.[SUP]7 [/SUP]Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:[SUP]8 [/SUP]For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
It is a false teaching, to say that the word "day", when used in the Bible, is always a literal 24 hour period.
 

trofimus

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Let me give you the short version then.

I can't help you. Only Jesus can. But you don't want His help to find the answers you seek. You just want to mock those who try to help you by His words.

Matthew 7:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.[SUP]7 [/SUP]Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:[SUP]8 [/SUP]For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Ok, you do not have any answer to my questions, so do not throw your pearls of non-answers before dog and swine anymore....

I do not know what else to say to such a post.
 

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I don't know exactly what you all are talking about here, but am going to take a stab at what I think it could be.

My belief is in the old earth stream. That the earth we now are on is a recreation beginning with Adam and Eve. If this discussion is about how old different breeds of species came into being, same as man with the different races, I would say look at the "seed".

Perhaps in the beginning of this recreation, Adam had all within his seed. And through intermingling. species and races came forth. Same with the female. Look at the egg.

Just my simple explanation. I hope it doesn't get shot full of holes though. Lol

uh...am not suggesting that man and animal intermingled. Try to look past my bungling. :)
 

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I don't know exactly what you all are talking about here, but am going to take a stab at what I think it could be.

My belief is in the old earth stream. That the earth we now are on is a recreation beginning with Adam and Eve. If this discussion is about how old different breeds of species came into being, same as man with the different races, I would say look at the "seed".

Perhaps in the beginning of this recreation, Adam had all within his seed. And through intermingling. species and races came forth. Same with the female. Look at the egg.

Just my simple explanation. I hope it doesn't get shot full of holes though. Lol

uh...am not suggesting that man and animal intermingled. Try to look past my bungling. :)
I did not mean to put the word "old" in the sentence, "if this discussion is about how 'old'

spellcheck struck there.
 
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It is a false teaching, to say that the word "day", when used in the Bible, is always a literal 24 hour period.
Not when the day in that verse has been accompanied by other words that there was evening and morning each day.

So knock it off.