There will be no Rapture!!!

[Truthnightmare]

Hebrews 11:5 Enoch was caught up and taken to heaven so that he would not have a glimpse of death; and he was not found because God had taken him

1Corinthians 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example and warning [to us]; they were written for our instruction [to admonish and equip us], upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter your chambers And shut your doors behind you; Hide for a little while Until the [Lord’s] wrath is past.

Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept the word of My endurance [My command to persevere], I will keep you [safe] from the hour of trial, that hour which is about to come on the whole [inhabited] world, to test those who live on the earth.

Hebrew 11:5 The word is μετέθηκεν not ἁρπάζω… You don’t get to choose any word you like and turn it to rapture… words have meanings..

Revelation 3:10
The word keep is τηρέω
And it means
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: téreó
Phonetic Spelling: (tay-reh'-o)
Definition: to watch over, to guard
Usage: I keep, guard, observe, watch over

Also, there is a such thing as subject and object. There is also article. If the subject is milk and how to drink milk, you can’t change the subject to white paint…because the paint is white…
You are destroying the language given by inserting rapture every where you see the word “cloud”’or “air” or “field” or “taken” or caught…

Ezra 9:2
For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass.

According to your logic these daughters were raptured.

 

[ZNP]

Hebrew 11:5 The word is μετέθηκεν not ἁρπάζω… You don’t get to choose any word you like and turn it to rapture… words have meanings..

μετατίθημι metatíthēmi, met-at-ith'-ay-mee; from G3326 and G5087; to transfer, i.e. (literally) transport, (by implication) exchange, (reflexively) change sides, or (figuratively) pervert:—carry over, change, remove, translate, turn.

ἁρπάζω harpázō, har-pad'-zo; from a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications):—catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).

Both words figuratively describe what happens. There is no word for "rapture" there are descriptions for what takes place.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Agreed!

3 ... No one could learn that song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.
4 It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins.

it's physical Virgins!

those who never had any form of sexual activity.

there's roughly 30 million full blooded Jews right now, seems like an easy possibility for there to be at least 144,000 yiddish Male Virgins on the scene, right now, as well.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

to the Jews, even in Modern Day, a boy, can be considered a Man by age 13.
Knowing the Hebrew Structure, how they go to Hebrew School and how they separate young boys from girls, that there can DEFINITELY be 144,000 Yiddish Male Virgins, living right now, as I type this post.

 

[Truthnightmare]

there's roughly 30 million full blooded Jews right now, seems like an easy possibility for there to be at least 144,000 yiddish Male Virgins on the scene, right now, as well.

Anyone can be a Jew.

 

[Truthnightmare]

μετατίθημι metatíthēmi, met-at-ith'-ay-mee; from G3326 and G5087; to transfer, i.e. (literally) transport, (by implication) exchange, (reflexively) change sides, or (figuratively) pervert:—carry over, change, remove, translate, turn.

ἁρπάζω harpázō, har-pad'-zo; from a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications):—catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).

Both words figuratively describe what happens. There is no word for "rapture" there are descriptions for what takes place.

The text in each case is descriptive to its own subject.
Let’s make this easy… The tribulation was shortened for the elects sake… you won’t be here for the tribulation. Is it safe to say you are not of the election?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Anyone can be a Jew.

i don't believe that, if you mean, being a Jew, by Genetics.
my people can trace our path from Israel 70 AD to the Netherlands for a few hundred years before migrating to Brazil until the [[early early]] 1700's where like my own BLOOD Genetics migrated to New York City.

 

[ZNP]

The text in each case is descriptive to its own subject.
Let’s make this easy… The tribulation was shortened for the elects sake… you won’t be here for the tribulation. Is it safe to say you are not of the election?

What happens during the pre tribulation rapture is we are snatched out of the way of imminent harm -- harpazo.

However, all believers when they are caught up are "translated", the spiritual body that Paul talks about in 1Corinthians 15.

Also, another picture of the rapture is in the day of atonement. 7 days before the day of atonement (day of judgement for the whole earth, 7 days before signifying the seven years prior) the high priest changes into a linen garment and is taken to the chamber in the temple to be guarded against all harm leading up to the day of atonement. Since Philadelphia kept the Lord's word they will be taken to this temple chamber and guarded during the 7 year tribulation.

Matthew 24:22 And if those days [of tribulation] had not been cut short, no human life would be saved; but for the sake of the elect (God’s chosen ones) those days will be shortened.

This does not say that all elect will be in that shortened tribulation. Such a concept is idiotic. What about Paul? Peter? John? All the believers during the church age.

So let's make this simple

Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and they will provide great signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect (God’s chosen ones).

Are you a false prophet trying to deceive the elect?

 

[Truthnightmare]

i don't believe that, if you mean, being a Jew by Genetics.
my people can trace our path from Israel 70 AD to the Netherlands for a few hundred years before migrating to Brazil until the early early 1700's where like my own BLOOD migrated to New York City.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

that is Spiritually, not Genetically speaking.

Notice, it says, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

if you are a Sinner and not in Christ Jesus, there is STILL Jew and Gentile!

 

[Truthnightmare]

What happens during the pre tribulation rapture is we are snatched out of the way of imminent harm -- harpazo.

However, all believers when they are caught up are "translated", the spiritual body that Paul talks about in 1Corinthians 15.

Also, another picture of the rapture is in the day of atonement. 7 days before the day of atonement (day of judgement for the whole earth, 7 days before signifying the seven years prior) the high priest changes into a linen garment and is taken to the chamber in the temple to be guarded against all harm leading up to the day of atonement. Since Philadelphia kept the Lord's word they will be taken to this temple chamber and guarded during the 7 year tribulation.

There you go again, turning the day of atonement into a rapture. According to you the whole Bible is symbolism of a rapture.

Are you of the elect or not?

 

[Blain]

This is a good point to make? Really? Many Christians are literal virgins but no one knows how many.

The 144k are spiritual virgins (maybe physical virgins but this is not a requirement or important) as all Christians are meant to be virgins as presented to their spiritual husband:


2Co_11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Married, non-virgins are chaste virgins in the more important sense.

your going down the right path keep going.

 

[Blain]

There you go again, turning the day of atonement into a rapture. According to you the whole Bible is symbolism of a rapture.

Are you of the elect or not?

then by all means prove him wrong

 

[Truthnightmare]

that is Spiritually, not Genetically speaking.

Notice, it says, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

if you are a Sinner and not in Christ Jesus, there is STILL Jew and Gentile!

Genetically speaking 95% of modern day Jewry are Ashkenazi from Japheth, not A Semitic people from Shem… And I have the DNA evidence.

 

[ewq1938]

to the Jews, even in Modern Day, a boy, can be considered a Man by age 13.
Knowing the Hebrew Structure, how they go to Hebrew School and how they separate young boys from girls, that there can DEFINITELY be 144,000 Yiddish Male Virgins, living right now, as I type this post.

The 144k are Christians, not of Judaism.

 

[Truthnightmare]

then by all means prove him wrong

It as been show that Elects, fellow brethren, saints, the 144,000 and other believers on the earth during the tribulation.

The only response to this is, they must have converted to Christianity during the tribulation…. Laughable.

 

[Aaron56]

Actually threads about the rapture go on and on, never ending.

 

[ZNP]

There you go again, turning the day of atonement into a rapture. According to you the whole Bible is symbolism of a rapture.

Are you of the elect or not?

I have been justified by Jesus Christ redeeming blood.

You don't get to limit the truth of God. Anyone can see that Enoch was caught up to God, Elijah was caught up to God, Hebrews refers to Enoch by name being caught up, and Paul tells us all the things done in the Old Testament were done as an example to us.

Passover was fulfilled precisely by the Lord's crucifixion.

Unleavened bread was fulfilled precisely by Jesus burial.

First Fruits was fulfilled precisely by Jesus rising from the dead with others also coming out of the graves.

Jesus as the High Priest then went to heaven and sanctified the temple for one week. This is why there is one week between his first appearance and the appearance where Thomas sees Him.

Jesus ascended to heaven fulfilling Shavuot precisely.

50 days later the Holy Spirit was poured out at 9am precisely fulfilling the Feast of New wine on Pentecost.

The next feast is the Feast of Trumpets, that is 10 days before atonement, and it was fulfilled precisely in 2020 and 2021. This is known as "the hidden day" or the "longest day" because you need to see the new moon before the trumpets can be sounded. In 2020 we had the Pandemic with shutdowns going on all over the globe and you had the US government censoring platforms and you had the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. All on the Feast of Trumpets. This flippedd the Supreme court allowing Roe v. Wade to be overturned. A year later we had illegal vaccine mandates. If you were not clear that the Feast of Trumpets had started a year ago you were certainly clear by then. They were lying to us, it was blatantly clear.

The Pandemic was the beginning of Jacob's trouble, a ten year period that precedes the day of Atonement.

We are now at the end of the third day, when the priest gets taken to the temple chamber to be guarded.

During this Feast of Trumpets we have them confirming (strengthening) Agenda 2030 for seven years by implementing one world currency that is digital where they can control what you buy or sell. We also have Saudi Arabia brokering a peace deal for Israel in which Israel trades land for peace, which the Bible prophesied about. They are doing this so that they can rebuild the temple. They plan on sacrificing a red heifer in the Spring before Passover so that they can sanctify the utensils of the temple and either erect the Tabernacle or the Temple.

Are you even paying attention to what is going on?

The Feast of Trumpets coincides with the Feast of New wine where the two witnesses, called the two olive trees will sell the oil. The Feast of Trumpets is where the two witnesses spot the new moon and report to the Sanhedrin. So this feast coincides with Jesus telling the foolish virgins to go and buy from those that sell and it coincides with the beginning of the 42 months of the Two witnesses ministry and it is exactly 42 months away from Passover where these two will be put to death similar to Jesus.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Revelation 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

These are Christians, notice they are called saints. They didn’t convert they are already saints when the beast makes war with them.

Why haven’t they been raptured?

They didn’t convert because they are already saints “believers” they haven’t been raptured because the beast is making war with them.

Proved wrong!

 

[Blain]

It as been show that Elects, fellow brethren, saints, the 144,000 and other believers on the earth during the tribulation.

The only response to this is, they must have converted to Christianity during the tribulation…. Laughable.

no you are misunderstanding the 1440 thousand why was that number specifically chosen? out of all the amount or numbers he could have used why that one? throw away what you think you know and understand and seek after the depper truth God never says or does or gives anythin without a purpose or meaning you see the base layer but did ever question why he chose that specific number what it represents what the purpose of the people are?