Things to Consider Before Attempting to Correct the King James Bible

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Endoscopy

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These are not issues in the KJV, they're issues you have with the words that are used. You should study those words. By the way, why didn't the new versions update the word "dung"?
I request you define that list of words without looking them up. When you read scripture you shouldn't have to have a dictionary there with the words that ceased to exist in English or try to find out what the real translation of the non existent animals really are. Your view is fallacious to say the least.
 

Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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I request you define that list of words without looking them up. When you read scripture you shouldn't have to have a dictionary there with the words that ceased to exist in English or try to find out what the real translation of the non existent animals really are. Your view is fallacious to say the least.
My friend, you would not have near the headache bashing your head against a brick wall for 6 hours than dealing with that guy. He will not listen to reason at all.
 

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I don't use carnal dictionaries to understand what a word means. Simple as that!
In other words you don't care about the correct definition of English words are. Therefore you can make up your own personal definition is!!!
 

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My friend, you would not have near the headache bashing your head against a brick wall for 6 hours than dealing with that guy. He will not listen to reason at all.
I have fun doing it. I love to see people like him wiggle trying to defend their idiocy!!
 

kohelet

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No He does not my friend. The canon of scripture is closed. If people want to hear from God, they must open their bibles.
Thanks, Sackcloth, for your comment. You're absolutely right; the canon is closed. But I chose the verse I quoted (or alluded to) deliberately. The Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirits that we are children of God (Romans 8:16). He does this directly. When I first became a believer I knew at that moment that God was my Father and that I was his son. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt. I didn't need to flick through a concordance to check.
 

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Thanks, Sackcloth, for your comment. You're absolutely right; the canon is closed. But I chose the verse I quoted (or alluded to) deliberately. The Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirits that we are children of God (Romans 8:16). He does this directly. When I first became a believer I knew at that moment that God was my Father and that I was his son. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt. I didn't need to flick through a concordance to check.
However, how do you know it is God bearing witness with your spirit? By the scriptures.
 

Hevosmies

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No He does not my friend. The canon of scripture is closed. If people want to hear from God, they must open their bibles.
Ive heard this often. Its a horrible argument.

Think about what you're saying for a while

The Bible mentions many prophets in the churches. YET we have NONE of their writings? Cant "open our bibles" and read those. Why dont we got a ton of prophetic literature from Corinthians? Galatians?
So God only speaking through the Scriptures is actually, ironically, UNSCRIPTURAL. The canon is closed, sure, I dont know WHERE you got the idea that God telling you to move to Mongolia PERSONALLY, should be in the Scriptures? Thats just ridicilous and unbiblical.

Furthermore: The Bible does NOT tell you everything. Most of the NT is written to 1st century churches. None of the epistles can tell you:

Where to live, who to marry, if you should even marry, should I do this, should I do that, should I go in ministry, should i mop the floors at church, what does the Father want me to do with MY LIFE, how should I serve Him today?. <- ALL questions that you cant see from the Bible. You know why? Because these are DiFFERENT to every person living. Some people shouldnt marry, some people should. Some people should get into ministry, some not. etc. Answer varies person to person in these kinda questions. And if God is done talking, then how can you EVER know you are in the will of God in your life?

I hope you atleast believe God can influence you in some way when you walk in prayer, as the scriptures state.

All this to state: Dont let anyone flimflam you into believing you cant draw nigh to God, that you cant hear the voice of the Shepherd, FROM the Scriptures, and DIRECTLY to you when discussing things like I mentioned above, who to marry, etc, things not mentioned in the Bible.

And YES all messages must be tried and compared to the Bible.
 

Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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Ive heard this often. Its a horrible argument.

Think about what you're saying for a while

The Bible mentions many prophets in the churches. YET we have NONE of their writings? Cant "open our bibles" and read those. Why dont we got a ton of prophetic literature from Corinthians? Galatians?
So God only speaking through the Scriptures is actually, ironically, UNSCRIPTURAL. The canon is closed, sure, I dont know WHERE you got the idea that God telling you to move to Mongolia PERSONALLY, should be in the Scriptures? Thats just ridicilous and unbiblical.

Furthermore: The Bible does NOT tell you everything. Most of the NT is written to 1st century churches. None of the epistles can tell you:

Where to live, who to marry, if you should even marry, should I do this, should I do that, should I go in ministry, should i mop the floors at church, what does the Father want me to do with MY LIFE. <- ALL questions that you cant see from the Bible.
God moves us, unctions us to do things, that is for sure, my friend. But that does not mean we conflate that with God speaking to us. The scriptures were written to instruct His people in what they needed to do. He does not do that now. So, if we need a word from God, we must open our bibles.
 

kohelet

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However, how do you know it is God bearing witness with your spirit? By the scriptures.
Well, not according to Romans 8:16, Sackcloth. We shouldn't add to Scripture; the canon is closed [ähem!]. And Paul doesn't instruct Timothy, "All Scripture is breathed by God and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness and for the Holy Spirit to bring to our attention as he witnesses with our spirits that we are the children of God." A Calvinist theologian whose style I like elaborates on this.
 

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So we have a severe anomaly........logically let us deduce...

a. God did not create evil

This allows for two possible conclusions

a. Evil came about on it's own, which means that it was outside the perview and power of God

b. God is not in control of his creation

c. Logically deduced God is not all powerful and or all knowing because if the above is true then he had no inkling that evil was beyond his power to control, beyond his perview, and beyond his ability to know or understand All things....

Are these logical deductions valid and if so....then the whole bible falls apart because it portrays God as All powerful, All Knowing and over his whole creation and in charge of all things....

NOTE....I am not saying the above....just logically deducing the facts based upon EVIL coming into being on it's own and or already being in existence.....

??????????????
ROFL
You rascal!