Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

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Not hardly.....the sealing of the Holy Spirit is the prepayment of our ETERNAL inheritance....not even close to marriage between a man and a woman...

NOW....Book, chapter and VERSE concerning your implication.......one that states the Holy Spirit SEALS your marriage......VERBATIM!
Marriage is a sort of...showing of Gods' glory in all that He has made. All that He created has a shadow of His glory. Marriage, the sacrament of the church, is a picture of true and eternal marriage with our Lord where we become one.
 
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Marriage is a sort of...showing of Gods' glory in all that He has made. All that He created has a shadow of His glory. Marriage, the sacrament of the church, is a picture of true and eternal marriage with our Lord where we become one.
I would be interested in the verses that state that marriage is a sacrament of the church....and regardless....comparing marriage to the sealing of the Holy spirit in salvation is about as far of a stretch as one can make...and still falls short of truth.....
 
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This isn't the real problem in Christianity today though. Iv'e got a real life story also.

Our old pastor was busted for hiring a prostitute. Our church had probably about 500 to 700 people in it.

He was fired. And made a public apology to us. And I watched just about every person walk up to him, hug him, smile and said," It's all forgiven."

And when we had group bible study after this, I watched those very same people, gossip,malign and burn him at the stake........ including the new pastor.

For every one believer who messes up royally, there are 1000 that have themselves set up on a pedestal.
I understood what Bill said and appreciated him sharing it, but also I think you are right that hypocrisy is a bigger problem with us. Bills heart was acting the way its supposed to act after God circumcises it, but in our organized churches, yes, hypocrisy and religiosity and no growth in fruit are the bigger problems.
 
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yeah dc your the good liar accusing me of being one,,, but i dont know if you know your doing it or just badly indoctrinated... the reality is ive showed you the truth over and over,, and you call me a liar for that. you know what i say,,, not hardly too. but not pal. as im offended by your behavior im not going to retalaiate with this way.. whic is not he way of the waymaker.. noooooooooo.

I will say God bless and hope to see you there one day... but i can not stay around this hate for much longer i will be not be writing to you for much longer and i will have to permantly put you on ignor,, because i dont want to fall out over doctrinal issues... but its not just about this with you and your followers,,,, its not just about dicussing disagreements its personal which i cant discuss to long about personal beliefs,, if the person is not willing to stay open or sharing.
 
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I would be interested in the verses that state that marriage is a sacrament of the church....and regardless....comparing marriage to the sealing of the Holy spirit in salvation is about as far of a stretch as one can make...and still falls short of truth.....
Well actuall its Gods way of thinking,,, he holds marriage sacred and seals it...and he doesnt like people getting divorced for no good reason... because he sealed it... i guess you could say he calls it a sin to break his seal.
 
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I would be interested in the verses that state that marriage is a sacrament of the church....and regardless....comparing marriage to the sealing of the Holy spirit in salvation is about as far of a stretch as one can make...and still falls short of truth.....
No, there aren't any verses that state that. But the sacraments are beautiful pictures of the reality of the spirit of the matter. Water baptism is a picture of our Baptism with the Holy Spirit, for example. And the taking of communion is a picture of that marvelous thing that happens that no one can describe when He communes with us inside.

I didn't understand the sealing part of his post either, by the way, although God does say the two become one.
 
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I would be interested in the verses that state that marriage is a sacrament of the church....and regardless....comparing marriage to the sealing of the Holy spirit in salvation is about as far of a stretch as one can make...and still falls short of truth.....
That's the first question I am going to ask God. "So, how many times have you been divorced?"
 
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marriage is signed sealed and delivered unto the lord.. a bonding everlasting contract between man and wife..
 
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yeah dc your the good liar accusing me of being one,,, but i dont know if you know your doing it or just badly indoctrinated... the reality is ive showed you the truth over and over,, and you call me a liar for that. you know what i say,,, not hardly too. but not pal. as im offended by your behavior im not going to retalaiate with this way.. whic is not he way of the waymaker.. noooooooooo.

I will say God bless and hope to see you there one day... but i can not stay around this hate for much longer i will be not be writing to you for much longer and i will have to permantly put you on ignor,, because i dont want to fall out over doctrinal issues... but its not just about this with you and your followers,,,, its not just about dicussing disagreements its personal which i cant discuss to long about personal beliefs,, if the person is not willing to stay open or sharing.
Bro...I suggest you take your meds....I have no clue what your talking about.....I asked your age because I really wanted to know...so...I will gladly wait till the day of judgment and you will see you were in error to accuse me of what ever your accusing me of!

Block away.........it will not offend me!
 
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Bro...I suggest you take your meds....I have no clue what your talking about.....I asked your age because I really wanted to know...so...I will gladly wait till the day of judgment and you will see you were in error to accuse me of what ever your accusing me of!

Block away.........it will not offend me!
i guess you could say theres just no helping some people either.... or will you keep on ?. (trying to help that is,, or will you walk away ?.

Now to me its simple i am not God and can not save my self.. its either lose it or keep it,,, its eith reed him or weep...(you know that poker term right,,, you have used poker terms here to prove your point,, so now im trying your level to see if i can win over the brother befor it gets out of hand,,, and that is to see my beliefs for Good not bad...

Why shouldnt i hope for something beautiful like being in his kingdom. :) His kingom his in me but i havent seen his kingdom yet. i know it exiists and i know his realm is not the earths realm all tho it could be close,,,,as he does make things in his image.

So i can only hope i will see his house one day,, like when people meet are queen,, they hope for it,, (maybe this is a menatality of God (hope) where does hope come from ?... remember all things come through him,,, and so now they have become like us knowing all good and evil...

By the way the first transgression of the bible was slander
 
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Well actuall its Gods way of thinking,,, he holds marriage sacred and seals it...and he doesnt like people getting divorced for no good reason... because he sealed it... i guess you could say he calls it a sin to break his seal.
Okay, I get what your saying better now that you expounded on your thought some more. This is true - let no man separate what God has joined together. And it tells us that God gave them some laws that were not good for them and Jesus said that Moses allowed divorce because of the hardness of their hearts but that it was never Gods' wish for divorce.
 
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i guess you could say theres just no helping some people either.... or will you keep on ?. (trying to help that is,, or will you walk away ?.

Now to me its simple i am not God and can not save my self.. its either lose it or keep it,,, its eith reed him or weep...(you know that poker term right,,, you have used poker terms here to prove your point,, so now im trying your level to see if i can win over the brother befor it gets out of hand,,, and that is to see my beliefs for Good not bad...

Why shouldnt i hope for something beautiful like being in his kingdom. :) His kingom his in me but i havent seen his kingdom yet. i know it exiists and i know his realm is not the earths realm all tho it could be close,,,,as he does make things in his image.

So i can only hope i will see his house one day,, like when people meet are queen,, they hope for it,, (maybe this is a menatality of God (hope) where does hope come from ?... remember all things come through him,,, and so now they have become like us knowing all good and evil...

By the way the first transgression of the bible was slander
My bible said sin came by Adam...not the serpent....the serpent did not slander he questioned....HATH God said......does not your bible say sin came BY ADAM??
 
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But even tho the lords seals your marriage ( GUESS WHAT) you can still decide to kick that seal away...........end of story

God sealed Noah in the ark.. I doubt you think Noah could have broken out.. You are not strong enough to break the seal of God my friend..
 
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Are you asking me or is that what your going to ask God?
I was being facetious. The sealing of the Spirit was being likened to marriage. And we could break that seal or marriage.

So God would be a "perfect" divorcee.

It's just so silly around here at times. It's hard not try to force some "think about it!!!!" humor in everyonce and a while.

An openly unsaved person...........trying to give us spiritual guidance?!? If I was saved, and if he made some sense to me in this department..........I would go seriously introspective right quick.
 
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amazingly they promise others liberty yet they themselves are professed servants of sin by their own admissions...Truly amazing, however Peter said this would happen....