TONGUES is a precious gift from God

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ResidentAlien

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We could always ask Him, He does like to talk to us....but, He really only talks to us about Jesus and the Word...

There's only one problem with this, and that's what you really mean by it. By your theories the Holy Spirit tells people all kinds of things that the word of God doesn't say. That's called false doctrine.


. . .the Holy Spirit is kind of mysterious....:unsure:
No, He's not mysterious. You'd like to make Him mysterious.
 

Lafftur

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Oh dear, laughing is good for us! I do love to laugh at life! Everything can be so funny if not taken tooooooo seriously.
 

Lafftur

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There's only one problem with this, and that's what you really mean by it. By your theories the Holy Spirit tells people all kinds of things that the word of God doesn't say. That's called false doctrine.



No, He's not mysterious. You'd like to make Him mysterious.
Oh dear, @ResidentAlien , you are loved.

Please go talk to Jesus about everything you think about me...check in with Him first before you post something. :love:(y)
 

Lafftur

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Making presumptuous judgmental critical accusations against each other is just sling mud at each other.....


Just keep our eyes on Jesus Christ, know that each of us is loved very much by Him and if we love God, we will be kind and love each other, too.

 
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Oblio

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Making presumptuous judgmental critical accusations against each other is just sling mud at each other.....


Just keep our eyes on Jesus Christ, know that each of us is loved very much by Him and if we love God, we will be kind and love each other, too.

She's right, you know.
 
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Oblio

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If we could add audio/video to this thread...now that would be first-class entertainment! Where's my Pringles? Lol
 
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SophieT

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I once went to a service in a city church where the service was all in the Samoan language. It was all nonsense to me too because I don't know Samoan. In my Presbyterian church we used to have combined services with the Korean congregation. When their pastor preached in Korean that was all nonsense to me as well.

The point I am making is that for an unlearned or uninitiated person, some aspects of a Pentecostal service can be nonsense to them. But for those who know how Pentecostal services are structured, they know exactly what is going on and why. A RCC service in liturgical Latin would be nonsense to me if I went to one because I have no knowledge of Latin. In New Zealand one of our official languages is Maori, and many functions start with a speech in the Maori language (called a "Mihi"). Because I don't know much of the language, the person speaking might as well be speaking in tongues. But for the Maori people present, it is fully understandable.

Therefore, if people in a Pentecostal service are praying and worshiping in tongues, then the most important Person present understands it even though no one else may. So if the most important Person understands and enjoys what is being said, who is there to criticise?
yet that is what Paul states...what is the point of all the tongues if people are offended rather than encouraged or drawn in? has nothing to do with Latin ... I don't understand your comparison. I don't know why we make excuses for an environment where a person has to question just what spirit it is that is manifesting....
 
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SophieT

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If we could add audio/video to this thread...now that would be first-class entertainment! Where's my Pringles? Lol
you mean it would sound like a meeting wherein people are barking and crowing possibly?

the Bible says we should do everything decently and in order
 
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We know while Jesus was being nailed to the Cross and the mockers began, He said, Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing. But as we read throughout His ministry, and we saw how He had to make himself invisible to escape a couple of times when the Zealots picked up rocks to Stone Him, His heart was Broken. His Feelings were tested. And at times, we even see him lash out calling them Full of Dead Bones and Vipers. I totally believe His Heart was the purest of all and He felt the Pain of being Mocked, Scorned, and Rejected.

I know in my own life, people think if you're too smiley and joyful, you are a funny kind of person. It literally takes everything within me, and I have over 25+ years in 3 Self Defense Techniques, to not just floor those who are ignorant towards me. I can visibly see them lying in a puddle of their own blood because at times their words catch me off guard. I have to immediately seek forgiveness and get my mind back onto God. It's the hardest Test of my life. It is my [Paul's Version] Thorn in my side.

The World is cruel, the People of the World are even crueler.

So to say, you cannot be hurt if your heart is Right with God is a mistake. We tend to forget, what we face day to day, is far less than what many others are facing. And it is just possible, what we do face, is more harsher than what others face.

But each time it happens, I can see I handle it better and better.

The people who know me well, know I would give the shirt right off my back if they were in need. But the World see's that as weakness and tries to jump on that and tear me down. I don't cry, I have learned to keep quiet, I have learned to forgive them in my mind and heart quicker, I even pray for them. But, it still is painful. It still feels like a knife running inside of you. Yes, we are more than Conquerors! But, we are also created to Feel how wicked this World is, in order to understand just How Good Our God is!
 

Lafftur

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you mean it would sound like a meeting wherein people are barking and crowing possibly?

the Bible says we should do everything decently and in order
I wonder if God's definition of "decently and in order" is the same as yours....:unsure:

Look at the universe...it's decently and in order but WOW....everything is spinning in all kinds of ways and orbits, asteroids are sporadic, where did gravity go? How come my feet are not on the ground anymore and I'm floating?! This can't be God???! My feet are always on the ground! LOL! :giggle:
 
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SophieT

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Oh dear, laughing is good for us! I do love to laugh at life! Everything can be so funny if not taken tooooooo seriously.
everything is funny?

tell that to persecuted Christians who fear for their lives in other countries

what a waste
 
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Oblio

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Awww...the Toronto Airport. My home away from home 'til the turn of the century. Even after my leader disassociated them for publishing a book on animal noises. I betcha CARM didn't tell you that one!
 
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SophieT

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I wonder if God's definition of "decently and in order" is the same as yours....:unsure:

Look at the universe...it's decently and in order but WOW....everything is spinning in all kinds of ways and orbits, asteroids are sporadic, where did gravity go? How come my feet are not on the ground anymore and I'm floating?! This can't be God???! My feet are always on the ground! LOL! :giggle:
that is not what you wonder at all
 

Lafftur

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Awww...the Toronto Airport. My home away from home 'til the turn of the century. Even after my leader disassociated them for publishing a book on animal noises. I betcha CARM didn't tell you that one!
What is CARM? :unsure:
 

Lafftur

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everything is funny?

tell that to persecuted Christians who fear for their lives in other countries

what a waste
Don't let the enemy still your joy Sophie. :confused::love:

Persecution is NOT the end... who really wins?! The Christians persecuted or their persecutors? Whose really going to be crying and laughing?
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Oblio

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The problem with the Vineyard, Partners-In Harvest, and every other church is that they are full of people. This doesn't seem to deter God from being there! Says a lot about Him! In my opinion!
 

Lafftur

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We know while Jesus was being nailed to the Cross and the mockers began, He said, Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing. But as we read throughout His ministry, and we saw how He had to make himself invisible to escape a couple of times when the Zealots picked up rocks to Stone Him, His heart was Broken. His Feelings were tested. And at times, we even see him lash out calling them Full of Dead Bones and Vipers. I totally believe His Heart was the purest of all and He felt the Pain of being Mocked, Scorned, and Rejected.

I know in my own life, people think if you're too smiley and joyful, you are a funny kind of person. It literally takes everything within me, and I have over 25+ years in 3 Self Defense Techniques, to not just floor those who are ignorant towards me. I can visibly see them lying in a puddle of their own blood because at times their words catch me off guard. I have to immediately seek forgiveness and get my mind back onto God. It's the hardest Test of my life. It is my [Paul's Version] Thorn in my side.

The World is cruel, the People of the World are even crueler.

So to say, you cannot be hurt if your heart is Right with God is a mistake. We tend to forget, what we face day to day, is far less than what many others are facing. And it is just possible, what we do face, is more harsher than what others face.

But each time it happens, I can see I handle it better and better.

The people who know me well, know I would give the shirt right off my back if they were in need. But the World see's that as weakness and tries to jump on that and tear me down. I don't cry, I have learned to keep quiet, I have learned to forgive them in my mind and heart quicker, I even pray for them. But, it still is painful. It still feels like a knife running inside of you. Yes, we are more than Conquerors! But, we are also created to Feel how wicked this World is, in order to understand just How Good Our God is!
Keep your joy and fun @Heaven_Bound ! :love:(y)

May you be free to be you in Christ! No worries what others think about us....it is so freeing to still love people but, what they think about us just really doesn't matter much....very insignificant.....

People love you one day and not the next....very unstable in relationships.

Only Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever!

Keeping our eyes on Jesus allllllll the way home! :love:(y)