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No sir, you must follow and understand the responses given by Christ, and the responses that of the Jews to understand in context, the true meaning.
Verse 28 and 29, Christ is comparing His power to that of the Father's. He has equated His power to give eternal life, which is a divine prerogative in and of itself, as well as the power to preserve His sheep safely in His hands alongside that of the Father's power to do the same. The Jews rebelled at the idea that Jesus and His Father shared this power to preserve the saints and, in this very sense, proclaiming that He was "one" with His Father, whom is "greater than all." This is what was considered as "blasphemy" in v. 33, and the reason they pick up stones against Christ in vv. 31-32.
You made mention of John 10:34, where Christ quotes from Psalm 82:6, "I [God] said, 'You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.'" Let's have a look at John 10:34-39,
Verse 28 and 29, Christ is comparing His power to that of the Father's. He has equated His power to give eternal life, which is a divine prerogative in and of itself, as well as the power to preserve His sheep safely in His hands alongside that of the Father's power to do the same. The Jews rebelled at the idea that Jesus and His Father shared this power to preserve the saints and, in this very sense, proclaiming that He was "one" with His Father, whom is "greater than all." This is what was considered as "blasphemy" in v. 33, and the reason they pick up stones against Christ in vv. 31-32.
You made mention of John 10:34, where Christ quotes from Psalm 82:6, "I [God] said, 'You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.'" Let's have a look at John 10:34-39,
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law,'I said, you are gods'? If he called them gods to whom the word of God came
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Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Just pointing this verse out to help someone, please comment without arguing I want to hear a oneness's opinion on this subject.
GBU all and MGKUP
Just pointing this verse out to help someone, please comment without arguing I want to hear a oneness's opinion on this subject.
GBU all and MGKUP
I will try replying a different way. Perhaps in bits
You stated
In address to John 5:30, which states,
I can do nothing on My own initiative As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
And how much more of a way can perfection of unity between distinct Persons be expressed? "I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
If the Trinity is to be true, there must be a perfection of unity between the Persons within. Christ isn't out to do His own will, but is in total agreement to the will of the Father, this is an example of the perfect harmony, and perfect unity between the Father, and Son. The Son is not a loose canon, so-to-speak, out doing His own thing, but is in perfect harmony with the will of the Father. If there was no perfection of unity, there would be no Trinity
How complicated is this ? The message in the bible is now only reachable by a person with a degree. Gods message is for all not just people who have a degree in theology.
The message is simple. I can do nothing without God. There is no hidden message in this.
Jesus (pbuh) prayed in prostration (Matthew 26:39), like the other prophets (see Nehemiah 8:6 with regard to Ezra and the people, Joshua 5:14 for Joshua, Genesis 17:3 and 24:52 for Abraham, Exodus 34:8 and Numbers 20:6 for Moses and Aaron).
Praying in prostration putting your face on the ground is not a conversation between two equals. It was an example from all the prophets on how to pray to a greater being. Muslims today pray like this.
You stated
In address to John 5:30, which states,
I can do nothing on My own initiative As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
And how much more of a way can perfection of unity between distinct Persons be expressed? "I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
If the Trinity is to be true, there must be a perfection of unity between the Persons within. Christ isn't out to do His own will, but is in total agreement to the will of the Father, this is an example of the perfect harmony, and perfect unity between the Father, and Son. The Son is not a loose canon, so-to-speak, out doing His own thing, but is in perfect harmony with the will of the Father. If there was no perfection of unity, there would be no Trinity
How complicated is this ? The message in the bible is now only reachable by a person with a degree. Gods message is for all not just people who have a degree in theology.
The message is simple. I can do nothing without God. There is no hidden message in this.
Jesus (pbuh) prayed in prostration (Matthew 26:39), like the other prophets (see Nehemiah 8:6 with regard to Ezra and the people, Joshua 5:14 for Joshua, Genesis 17:3 and 24:52 for Abraham, Exodus 34:8 and Numbers 20:6 for Moses and Aaron).
Praying in prostration putting your face on the ground is not a conversation between two equals. It was an example from all the prophets on how to pray to a greater being. Muslims today pray like this.
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them(Genesis 1:26-27).
This passage of scripture is a prophetic statement to the coming Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Bible says that God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future,it is the same as if it already happened,for it will surely come to pass.
The Bible says the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,although we know it did not happen until 4000 years later,for God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened.
Any reference to the Son being in the beginning means that the Son,the man Christ Jesus,was a plan in the beginning to be born in the future,so it was the same as if the Son was in the beginning.
Let us make man in our image is a prophetic statement to the coming of the Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Old Testament says that God created man in His image.
The New Testament says that Adam was created in the image of Christ.
The image of God is the image of Christ.
God had the plan in His mind to come in the future manifest in the flesh,and God created Adam in that image.
Adam was created an innocent nature in flesh, a living soul.The Son,the man Christ Jesus,is an innocent nature in flesh,a quickening spirit.
Let us make man in our image is God the Father,and the Son,the man Christ Jesus,who can be in the beginning,because He was a plan of God to be born in the future,so it is the same as if He was in the beginning.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them(Genesis 1:26-27).
This passage of scripture is a prophetic statement to the coming Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Bible says that God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future,it is the same as if it already happened,for it will surely come to pass.
The Bible says the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,although we know it did not happen until 4000 years later,for God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened.
Any reference to the Son being in the beginning means that the Son,the man Christ Jesus,was a plan in the beginning to be born in the future,so it was the same as if the Son was in the beginning.
Let us make man in our image is a prophetic statement to the coming of the Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Old Testament says that God created man in His image.
The New Testament says that Adam was created in the image of Christ.
The image of God is the image of Christ.
God had the plan in His mind to come in the future manifest in the flesh,and God created Adam in that image.
Adam was created an innocent nature in flesh, a living soul.The Son,the man Christ Jesus,is an innocent nature in flesh,a quickening spirit.
Let us make man in our image is God the Father,and the Son,the man Christ Jesus,who can be in the beginning,because He was a plan of God to be born in the future,so it is the same as if He was in the beginning.
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26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them(Genesis 1:26-27).
This passage of scripture is a prophetic statement to the coming Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Bible says that God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future,it is the same as if it already happened,for it will surely come to pass.
The Bible says the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,although we know it did not happen until 4000 years later,for God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened.
Any reference to the Son being in the beginning means that the Son,the man Christ Jesus,was a plan in the beginning to be born in the future,so it was the same as if the Son was in the beginning.
Let us make man in our image is a prophetic statement to the coming of the Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Old Testament says that God created man in His image.
The New Testament says that Adam was created in the image of Christ.
The image of God is the image of Christ.
God had the plan in His mind to come in the future manifest in the flesh,and God created Adam in that image.
Adam was created an innocent nature in flesh, a living soul.The Son,the man Christ Jesus,is an innocent nature in flesh,a quickening spirit.
Let us make man in our image is God the Father,and the Son,the man Christ Jesus,who can be in the beginning,because He was a plan of God to be born in the future,so it is the same as if He was in the beginning.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them(Genesis 1:26-27).
This passage of scripture is a prophetic statement to the coming Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Bible says that God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future,it is the same as if it already happened,for it will surely come to pass.
The Bible says the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,although we know it did not happen until 4000 years later,for God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened.
Any reference to the Son being in the beginning means that the Son,the man Christ Jesus,was a plan in the beginning to be born in the future,so it was the same as if the Son was in the beginning.
Let us make man in our image is a prophetic statement to the coming of the Son of God,who is fully God and fully man.
The Old Testament says that God created man in His image.
The New Testament says that Adam was created in the image of Christ.
The image of God is the image of Christ.
God had the plan in His mind to come in the future manifest in the flesh,and God created Adam in that image.
Adam was created an innocent nature in flesh, a living soul.The Son,the man Christ Jesus,is an innocent nature in flesh,a quickening spirit.
Let us make man in our image is God the Father,and the Son,the man Christ Jesus,who can be in the beginning,because He was a plan of God to be born in the future,so it is the same as if He was in the beginning.
No friend I know the difference between my emotions and a spontaneously feeling out of nowhere. Plus friend how could I get that knowledge if I wasn't before sure about it and all of a sudden this happen. I believe i was also inspired by the music to lead me into that testimony. It felt like the Spirit moving through my heart!!!!
Jesus pbuh used to go to the desert to get away from noise to pray.
I like Mother Teresa quote
We need to find God, and he cannot be found in noise and restlessness.
God is the friend of silence.
See how nature
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When Adam was made in his image. The his refers to Adam.
Adam was created as an adult. He did not need to grow up. He was made in his adult image.
If we were made in Gods image then the mountains would shake at the mere glimpse of us.
Adam was created as an adult. He did not need to grow up. He was made in his adult image.
If we were made in Gods image then the mountains would shake at the mere glimpse of us.
God said this before he made man, Let us make man in our image. Later friend there God took up the dust of the ground i think in chapter 2 and then gave man life. So God must be talking to Himself in three forms.
Dear friend PBUH
God said this before he made man, Let us make man in our image. Later friend there God took up the dust of the ground i think in chapter 2 and then gave man life. So God must be talking to Himself in three forms.
God said this before he made man, Let us make man in our image. Later friend there God took up the dust of the ground i think in chapter 2 and then gave man life. So God must be talking to Himself in three forms.
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made(John 1:1-3).
All things were made with the plan of God coming in the flesh,and without the plan of God coming in the flesh,God would of not created anything that He created.
9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ(Ephesians 3:9).
15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist(Colossians 1:15-17).
All creation hinges on Jesus Christ,for it is all made for Him,who is fully God and fully man.
5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus(1 Timothy 2:5).
Our savior is the man Christ Jesus,for only a sinless man can approach a holy God on mankind's behalf.
No man is sinless so God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus,and laid down His human life to take the world's sins away.
3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead(Romans 1:3-4).
4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons(Galatians 4:4-5).
The Son is the man Christ Jesus,who was made of a woman,made under the law.
17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were(Romans 4:17).
God calls things that have not yet happened as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future,it is the same as it already happened.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world(Revelation 13:8).
The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world although we know it did not happen until 4000 years later.
The Son,the man Christ Jesus,was a plan in the mind of God to have born in the future,so it was the same as if the Son was already in the beginning.
God had the plan to come in the future in the flesh and He created Adam in that image.
Let us make man in our image is God and the Son,the man Christ Jesus,who is God manifest in flesh,and God made Adam in that image.God made Adam in the image that He would show up in the future and that is in flesh.When Adam was made in the image of God,it means he started with an innocent nature in flesh,until he fell,and lost the image of God,where Jesus is the exact image of God,who won everything back.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made(John 1:1-3).
All things were made with the plan of God coming in the flesh,and without the plan of God coming in the flesh,God would of not created anything that He created.
9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ(Ephesians 3:9).
15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist(Colossians 1:15-17).
All creation hinges on Jesus Christ,for it is all made for Him,who is fully God and fully man.
5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus(1 Timothy 2:5).
Our savior is the man Christ Jesus,for only a sinless man can approach a holy God on mankind's behalf.
No man is sinless so God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus,and laid down His human life to take the world's sins away.
3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead(Romans 1:3-4).
4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons(Galatians 4:4-5).
The Son is the man Christ Jesus,who was made of a woman,made under the law.
17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were(Romans 4:17).
God calls things that have not yet happened as though they already happened,for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future,it is the same as it already happened.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world(Revelation 13:8).
The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world although we know it did not happen until 4000 years later.
The Son,the man Christ Jesus,was a plan in the mind of God to have born in the future,so it was the same as if the Son was already in the beginning.
God had the plan to come in the future in the flesh and He created Adam in that image.
Let us make man in our image is God and the Son,the man Christ Jesus,who is God manifest in flesh,and God made Adam in that image.God made Adam in the image that He would show up in the future and that is in flesh.When Adam was made in the image of God,it means he started with an innocent nature in flesh,until he fell,and lost the image of God,where Jesus is the exact image of God,who won everything back.
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well the Bible says" God is spirit" also that "God is Holy" So do we have 2 Holy Spirits? The Bible also says to "Worship only!!! God" Several times Jesus was worshipped. if HE were not God , He should have stopped them immediately!! He did not! in Matt. 28:19 says to baptise in the name of... not names nor titles.. what is that Name? Is. 9:6 will tell you! As far as how 99 percent of trinitarians will say "it is a mystery" well the trinity is a mystery according to the Word of God because the trinity is a doctrine of devils... here is the answer to this mystery....1 Timothy 3:16.. "And without controversy Great is the mystery of Godliness:God was manifest in the flesh,justified in the Spirit,seen of angels,preached unto the gentiles, believed on in the world,received up into glory!!!!!"
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no I am a Biblical, Book of Acts true Christian as put forth in His Word .... unlike the trinitarian (catholic) that is preached about on tv.. I read the Word ,Study the Word, and seek Gods face.. I am Holy Ghost filled, water baptised in the ONLY NAME given among men whereby we MUST be saved.. That NAME is JESUS. the truth is not for the mocker..
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no I am a Biblical, Book of Acts true Christian as put forth in His Word .... unlike the trinitarian (catholic) that is preached about on tv.. I read the Word ,Study the Word, and seek Gods face.. I am Holy Ghost filled, water baptised in the ONLY NAME given among men whereby we MUST be saved.. That NAME is JESUS. the truth is not for the mocker..
Friend i am a baptist and study the word as well and i found that if you go deeper to the word you will find the answer or at least ask God Himself and He will teach us. and baptism does not save you but receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and savior and then being baptized to show that you are in God and that is how you are saved, by salvation not by water. Back then they baptized after they committed themselves to God. I do not care if you do not like me but i will love you because that is my job as a christian my mission is to follow every step of God and i may not get it right but i am saved by grace.
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