wat is truth

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Altair-786

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The Bible is a collection of books. Pick one like oldhermit suggested, The Gospel of John. That is a good place to start :)
alot tell me start in john... mayb i will
 
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alot tell me start in john... mayb i will
That's where I started. It's a good place to start for people that come from a different religious background because a lot of the cliché questions you have asked here (and that I myself have asked in times past) are answered within pretty much the first few chapters.
 

tourist

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That's where I started. It's a good place to start for people that come from a different religious background because a lot of the cliché questions you have asked here (and that I myself have asked in times past) are answered within pretty much the first few chapters.
I agree. It is an excellent starting point on a biblical spiritual journey. In that book you learn that God is Love.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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wow i didnt think bout it like that.. is that actually tru allah said guy on cross was sum1 else?
This is what is written in the Tarfirs, and this is the belief held by the majority of orthodox muslims, yes. I can give you a link if youd like to see it yourself. The quran is not from the same God, but we are warned by God that there is a spiritual child He created on the earth, and this being, in his rage, is coming to kill us, and the way he wants to do it is to deceive us into making ourselves into Gods enemies. The quran actually tells you to judge allahs words against the torah and the gospel btw. If you want to figure out if you should follow allah, I would strongly suggest starting with the word of God, like in the book of John, as others said. And then judge allahs teachings to them.
Allah did commanded the muslims to do this, like he said, they are all 3 his books, and he did promise to preserve his word.



And Christ prayed to God, one to show us how to submit to Him, to not exalt ourselves to Him but humble ourselves as sinners. And in the book of Genesis, God said "let us make man in Our image", which would be proof that He and Christ do speak to one another.
 

wattie

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wat u mean callupon jesus?
If you ask Jesus to come into your soul and forgive you of your sin, give you eternal life...

He will!

He will forgive your transgressions, sins, and come into your soul as the Holy Spirit, giving you a place in heaven.
 
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A honest, non-bias evaluation of the bible will reveal the truthfulness and validity of the Word of God.....
 

Yeraza_Bats

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I watched a video last night from a man who once believed in allah and the quran, but has found the truth in Christ. And he shared how he found the truth. He was talking about how many muslims will tell you they have read both the holy bible, and the quran, and that the two books mostly say the same thing. He then talked about how this is NOT a truthful thing to say, and that the two books actually lay in opposition with each other, and are outwarldy comparable. And he brought up one big way that they are not the same, sacrifice. If you read the torah, it tells you 100% how man finds mercy and forgiveness for their sins. Through a sacrifice. The Jewish people did make annual sacrifices for their sins, an innocent lambs blood was shed in order for sins to be forgiven. In fact, the book Hebrews tells us, the spilling of blood is the only way to atone for sin. And the torah also gave us prophecies, in like many many books, about the Messiah, and how He would give Himself to us as our eternal sacrifice.

Now, go to the gospel, and it IS the same thing. When John saw Christ coming, he pointed his followers to Him, and told them that He was the "Lamb of God". And this is 100% what the gospel is about. The Messiah has come to shed His blood to cleanse us of our sins, through the Messiah we are eternally covered for all of our transgressions against God.

This is the story of the bible, the story of how God has come to save men, and bring them back to Him.




Now, go to the quran. And what does the quran say?
First, any muslim will tell you, no one can give their life for anothers sin. If you understand the prophecies of the torah, you automatically should know this person is not of God.
And how does allah tell us that the sins of men are forgiven? Through a meteorite, fallen from space. Muslims are told that all followers of allah must make the hajj to mecca at least once in their lifetime, in order to do their ritual before the kabaa stone, which absorbs the sins of man. In fact many muslims say the kabaa stone is black because of all the sins it has absorbed. The torah tells us the Messiah will be the right hand of God. But, the quran tells us that this rock is allahs right hand. Think about that, doesnt that almost seem disrespectful of what God has done for us?

So, where is the sacrifice made for the muslim people? If the torah and the gospel are from allah, what has taken the place of their transgressions? What has been sacrificed to cleanse them of their sins? The quran has taken the biggest work of God, and replaced it with a rock. Literally. This is only one of the many ways the quran stands against the holy bible.
 
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i am frm Chechnya (i put syria cos altair :p) fam moved to uk like 10 years ago, my mom n dad r now separated last few year but i live with my dad n he muslim n my mom is christian..... idk if i fully believe in any religion i do think mayb there is god but idk bout heaven hell n religions about how u pray n stuff to god... like idk but i think it called agnostic? i do sumtim go masjid wid my dad but idk if im proper muslim tho i sumtime as identidy say am muslim but nowadays not sure... i dnt kno bout christians belief much but isnt it about jesus god n god is three diff ppls????? i come here cos of curioisty... my mom never told me much bout christian but i do rem celebrating christmas n stuff n went church wen i was like 9 or sumthin lol
What is truth? Read the New Testament. Everything that Jesus Christ (God in flesh) said is truth.