Water baptism is necessary to be in the first resurrection
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Consider mankind's responsibilities associated with Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. Everyone is to repent, be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus for remission of sin, and receive the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38) I find the following very interesting:
Repentance = Turning to Jesus results in a person dying to who they were.
Burial = Being buried with Jesus in water baptism, where one's personal sins are washed away.
Resurrection = Receiving the Holy Ghost that empowers us during this life and enables our own resurrection when the time comes.
Upon obedience to God's command for the NT church, the individual is in fact a new creation in Christ Jesus.
Repentance = Turning to Jesus results in a person dying to who they were.
Burial = Being buried with Jesus in water baptism, where one's personal sins are washed away.
Resurrection = Receiving the Holy Ghost that empowers us during this life and enables our own resurrection when the time comes.
Upon obedience to God's command for the NT church, the individual is in fact a new creation in Christ Jesus.
You’re saying I’m evil and need to repent for teaching you need to be water baptized? What? I must have really hit a nerve with you and I guess that means I get a reward in heaven (Matthew 5:11,12). Thanks God!
The words of life are quite clear: accept water and Spirit for rebirth. That’s water baptism and God’s Holy Spirit. You can read all about it in John 1 and John 3 among other passages.
The words of life are quite clear: accept water and Spirit for rebirth. That’s water baptism and God’s Holy Spirit. You can read all about it in John 1 and John 3 among other passages.
What do the two symbolic baptisms "Cloud and Red Sea" represent and point to in the NT?
Also = the FULL GOSPEL was given to us by GOD in Genesis thru Abraham Isaac Jacob = no water baptism was included.
A.) AND remember, i was water baptized(fully submerged as a adult) and i have baptized Believers in the Name of the Father/Son/HS.
B.) Never have i said 'do not do this'.
C.) The Scripture says it is symbolic and cannot wash away our sins.
Also = the FULL GOSPEL was given to us by GOD in Genesis thru Abraham Isaac Jacob = no water baptism was included.
A.) AND remember, i was water baptized(fully submerged as a adult) and i have baptized Believers in the Name of the Father/Son/HS.
B.) Never have i said 'do not do this'.
C.) The Scripture says it is symbolic and cannot wash away our sins.
Notice Ephesians states we are sealed with the Holy Ghost of promise after hearing and believing the word of truth the gospel of our salvation. Believing prompts action to God-given commands. (James 2:22)
The gospel includes man's responsibility in association with Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. This was initially stated on the Day of Pentecost. The message began there and would spread to all nations as prophesied by Jesus in Luke 24:47.
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."
The gospel includes man's responsibility in association with Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. This was initially stated on the Day of Pentecost. The message began there and would spread to all nations as prophesied by Jesus in Luke 24:47.
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."
#1 - never said you are possessed - AGAIN you are adding words.
#2 - Exactly what you have been doing = adding to God's words and thereby creating a false doctrine.
#3 - Once the enemy knows that you can be manipulated, it will continue to lure you further into more false teaching, however slight it may be and completely found in scripture.
O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified?
This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? = (water baptism)
Have you suffered so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain?
Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law,
or by the hearing of faith?— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.”
So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.
Salvation is always by Faith in the Sacrifice that GOD Provided = and nothing added to it.
Then Isaac said to his father Abraham, “My father!”
“Here I am, my son,” he replied.
“The fire and the wood are here,” said Isaac, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”
Abraham answered, “God Himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.”
And the two walked on together.
Genesis 22:7-8
#2 - Exactly what you have been doing = adding to God's words and thereby creating a false doctrine.
#3 - Once the enemy knows that you can be manipulated, it will continue to lure you further into more false teaching, however slight it may be and completely found in scripture.
O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified?
This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? = (water baptism)
Have you suffered so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain?
Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law,
or by the hearing of faith?— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.”
So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.
Salvation is always by Faith in the Sacrifice that GOD Provided = and nothing added to it.
Then Isaac said to his father Abraham, “My father!”
“Here I am, my son,” he replied.
“The fire and the wood are here,” said Isaac, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”
Abraham answered, “God Himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.”
And the two walked on together.
Genesis 22:7-8
You are indeed in error and your arrogance has blinded you.
You have given yourself to teaching heresy = "water baptism required for resurrection."
In this error and heresy of yours you are REBUKED because you have rejected ALL the Scripture that opposes your error.
Many Brethren warned you to turn back to the Truth but you have continued hard hearted and head strong.
You are being manipulated by a heart of flesh which the enemy seeks from you.
SHAME on you and the HOLY SPIRIT rebuke you for adding to His Words and to everyone who lays hold of this false doctrine.
Corrupting scripture for your own fleshly pleasure.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
You have given yourself to teaching heresy = "water baptism required for resurrection."
In this error and heresy of yours you are REBUKED because you have rejected ALL the Scripture that opposes your error.
Many Brethren warned you to turn back to the Truth but you have continued hard hearted and head strong.
You are being manipulated by a heart of flesh which the enemy seeks from you.
SHAME on you and the HOLY SPIRIT rebuke you for adding to His Words and to everyone who lays hold of this false doctrine.
Corrupting scripture for your own fleshly pleasure.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
On last time for you.
the Apostle never said what you claim = your teaching is not only false but heresy by adding to the Cross of Christ.
You need to HEED Romans chapters 4-6 AND chapter 4 is the COMMAND for all that follows afer
What then shall we say? Shall we continue in sin so that grace may increase? Certainly not! How can we who died to sin live in it any longer? Or aren’t you aware that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may walk in newness of life. (Paul using the outward symbolism of water baptism that is used as a sign to the Believer that the old man was buried with Christ and the New Man is Resurrected with Christ).
Paul states that the we are presently resurrected with Christ now, not thru water baptism but thru His sinless Life, His Death and His Resurrection. Water baptism does not save us or resurrect us or have any Power to sanctify a Believer.
For if we have been united with Him like this(symbolic) in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him. For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, He cannot die again; death no longer has dominion over Him. The death He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life He lives, He lives to God. So you too must count yourselves dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its desires. Do not present the parts of your body to sin as instruments of wickedness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and present the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness.
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Abrahm Isaac Jacob and all the OT Saints were not water baptized and they WILL BE in the REUSRRECTION at Christ's Coming.
Abraham Isaac Jacob is the FULL GOSPEL just as the Apostle Paul states in Romans chapter 4 BEFORE ch6
For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world was not given through the law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. For if those who live by the law are heirs, faith is useless and the promise is worthless, because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law, there is no transgression.
Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may rest on grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.” He is our father in the presence of God, in whom he believed, the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being what does not yet exist.
Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as he had been told, “So shall your offspring be.” Without weakening in his faith, he acknowledged the decrepitness of his body (since he was about a hundred years old) and the lifelessness of Sarah’s womb. yet he did not waver through disbelief in the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, being fully persuaded that God was able to do what He had promised. This is why “it was credited to him as righteousness.”
Now the words “it was credited to him” were written not only for Abraham, but also for us, to whom righteousness will be credited—for us who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was delivered over to death for our trespasses and was raised to life for our justification.
Abraham was never water baptized.
Abraham's FAITH in the WORD saves us = never water baptism = never place your trust in the flesh
the Apostle never said what you claim = your teaching is not only false but heresy by adding to the Cross of Christ.
You need to HEED Romans chapters 4-6 AND chapter 4 is the COMMAND for all that follows afer
What then shall we say? Shall we continue in sin so that grace may increase? Certainly not! How can we who died to sin live in it any longer? Or aren’t you aware that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may walk in newness of life. (Paul using the outward symbolism of water baptism that is used as a sign to the Believer that the old man was buried with Christ and the New Man is Resurrected with Christ).
Paul states that the we are presently resurrected with Christ now, not thru water baptism but thru His sinless Life, His Death and His Resurrection. Water baptism does not save us or resurrect us or have any Power to sanctify a Believer.
For if we have been united with Him like this(symbolic) in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him. For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, He cannot die again; death no longer has dominion over Him. The death He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life He lives, He lives to God. So you too must count yourselves dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its desires. Do not present the parts of your body to sin as instruments of wickedness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and present the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness.
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Abrahm Isaac Jacob and all the OT Saints were not water baptized and they WILL BE in the REUSRRECTION at Christ's Coming.
Abraham Isaac Jacob is the FULL GOSPEL just as the Apostle Paul states in Romans chapter 4 BEFORE ch6
For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world was not given through the law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. For if those who live by the law are heirs, faith is useless and the promise is worthless, because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law, there is no transgression.
Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may rest on grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.” He is our father in the presence of God, in whom he believed, the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being what does not yet exist.
Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as he had been told, “So shall your offspring be.” Without weakening in his faith, he acknowledged the decrepitness of his body (since he was about a hundred years old) and the lifelessness of Sarah’s womb. yet he did not waver through disbelief in the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, being fully persuaded that God was able to do what He had promised. This is why “it was credited to him as righteousness.”
Now the words “it was credited to him” were written not only for Abraham, but also for us, to whom righteousness will be credited—for us who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was delivered over to death for our trespasses and was raised to life for our justification.
Abraham was never water baptized.
Abraham's FAITH in the WORD saves us = never water baptism = never place your trust in the flesh
Not even interested in what you have to say at this point. You’ve lost all credibility as far as I’m concerned.
One last time, read the OP again and pray about it. Good luck David and don’t cross me like that again. If you want to talk to me I expect you to have a sound coherent reason, apologize, and be ready to receive correction for your errors today.
One last time, read the OP again and pray about it. Good luck David and don’t cross me like that again. If you want to talk to me I expect you to have a sound coherent reason, apologize, and be ready to receive correction for your errors today.
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