We the new chosen people, are Jews no longer chosen people?

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Pilgrimshope

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You all think you are Children of GOD just because you say you Believe ...you have to live what you Believe if you want to be covered in His Blood and Represented on The Cross.
Does this describe your perfect life over the last year ? I think your confused about what Jesus actually taught regarding the children of God

“But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.

And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:

condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:

forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:27-38, 41-49‬ ‭KJV‬‬

of you notice your focus on sin doesn’t appear anywhere in there do you forgive all who transgress against you ? Do you never judge others ? Are you merciful like God the father is merciful ? Do you believe that however you treat others regarding trier sins will be the same measire you receive for yours?

do you give to all that ask of you and not expect to be repaid ? Are you claiming that you have walked in christs word perfectly the last year ?

or are you looking at what “ Thou shalt not do “ and thinking that’s Gods word ?


If anyone starts believing the gospel and walking after the thkngs Jesus Christ taught they ill learn repentance and righteousness has nothing to do with sin and Thou shalt nots

we have to believe the thkngs jesus said he was not ever giving us the understanding of sin he was preaching repentance and remission of sins and imparting his righteousness to believers

brother study the thkngs chrirt taught and compare your actions I bet you find out you still Need alot of grace and forebearance from God

if we learn to follow Jesus the sin will fade away to stop following the world of the flesh requires us to simply turn and follow the word of the spirit the word of Christ that’s sufficient to lead us to repentance and righteousness


“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

your thinking inside the law not the gospel
 

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The lukewarm are not Elected. What do you people think you have overcome?
brother I love you dearly but you have gotten way way out of line your only heaping judgement upon yourself at this point
 
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Do any of you think there is something causing you to take that drug or do that sexual act? Are you telling me you can't stop yourself? You are addicted to sin ...there will be withdrawals, but you can pull though it. This entire reality is a test to see if you can!
 

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You didn't read the battle in this thread. We are called to hate sin ...you are not willing to sin when you are in a constant state of prayer.
yeah jesusnteaxhes is to turn against sin but he does it by teaching us the right way to believe and live the law of sin can’t do that
 

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Do any of you think there is something causing you to take that drug or do that sexual act? Are you telling me you can't stop yourself? You are addicted to sin ...there will be withdrawals, but you can pull though it. This entire reality is a test to see if you can!
why are you imagining your talking to a bunch of wicked sinners who just say they believe but really don’t ? Do you actually know that of anybody in this thread ? Take a breath brother it will benefit you greatly in this moment
 
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Do any of you think there is something causing you to take that drug or do that sexual act? Are you telling me you can't stop yourself? You are addicted to sin ...there will be withdrawals, but you can pull though it. This entire reality is a test to see if you can!
Been there, done it!
 
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why are you imagining your talking to a bunch of wicked sinners who just say they believe but really don’t ? Do you actually know that of anybody in this thread ? Take a breath brother it will benefit you greatly in this moment
You understand The Kingdom is now ...what do you think that means? A Citizen has to uphold The Last Adam's Image to remain a Child on the Narrow Path.
 
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The thread was sent in this direction because Premills don't want The Kingdom to be now ...for that reason!
 

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You understand The Kingdom is now ...what do you think that means? A Citizen has to uphold The Last Adam's Image to remain a Child on the Narrow Path.
right brother look at Jesus teachings that is the narrow path to us is the central block of the foundation

“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:35-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬


it’s actually a matter of looking at what Jesus taught that makes us children and we’re meant to let his doctrine become our faith is what I’m saying the way is the things Jesus taught like one example is this

“Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭18:

notice the public’s there he’s not just saying “ sorry” so he can keep sinning he’s genuine with God he won’t even look up to heaven he knows he’s not worthy and knows Gods mercy is his hope

the other guy notice his prayers are about how thankful he is That he’s better than others they don’t reach his standard in his mind he’s right and they aren’t and he’s thankful he’s righteous

but he goes home not justified and the sinner who repented and confessed his sin went home justified before God

brother Jesus turned what man thought about God completely upside down. We have to follow the gospel it’s about repentance d remission of sins like the public’s there

of he went off and someday committed a sin he would come pray the same prayer because that’s what would be in him to pray and he would again be forgiven

It’s not just meaningless saying “ oh I’m so sorry lord “ yet in your heart you still plan on continuing in whatever the issue is it’s not lip service repentance is to be deep In us because we begin to hear the call in the gospel

so then when we’ve stepped out of line or begin to sink because we have weak faith like Peter just like Peter we don’t have to drown we can reach up and call
Out “ Lord save me !” And he will always reach down and set us back in the boat

Your right. Either about the fact that we need to let the scripture turn our hearts against sin no argument there but when someone sins we have to speak the truth about repentance and remission of sins so they don’t get the wrong idea and give up thinking they are condemned

Christ is able to save us brother all we have to do is fully trust in him and believe the thkngs he teaches us to know believe and walk in as we grow up

there’s a process of maturing in Christ new born babies aren’t required to do the work of an adult nor is a seedling tree going to bear visible fruit but if they are watered and nurtured for a season as they grow thier stock gets stronger and The foliage begins to bloom , later the fruit begins to come forth and is harvested

It’s a process we all are t at the same place yet but all of us belong to Christ if we don’t one day he’ll make the call himself when we stand before him in judgement for what we’ve done in our lives .

“And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground; And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.

For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself;

first the blade,

then the ear,

after that the full corn in the ear.

But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭4:26-29‬ ‭



it’s a lifetime process like bekng born and growing into a child then a teen then an adult we get wiser and better as we grow up in Christ just like in the natural world were never going to be fully complete but always disciples
 
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The kingdom is here...but not in it's fulness yet! Premil? Jesus comes when He comes!
 
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right brother look at Jesus teachings that is the narrow path to us is the central block of the foundation

“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:35-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬


it’s actually a matter of looking at what Jesus taught that makes us children and we’re meant to let his doctrine become our faith is what I’m saying the way is the things Jesus taught like one example is this

“Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭18:

notice the public’s there he’s not just saying “ sorry” so he can keep sinning he’s genuine with God he won’t even look up to heaven he knows he’s not worthy and knows Gods mercy is his hope

the other guy notice his prayers are about how thankful he is That he’s better than others they don’t reach his standard in his mind he’s right and they aren’t and he’s thankful he’s righteous

but he goes home not justified and the sinner who repented and confessed his sin went home justified before God

brother Jesus turned what man thought about God completely upside down. We have to follow the gospel it’s about repentance d remission of sins like the public’s there

of he went off and someday committed a sin he would come pray the same prayer because that’s what would be in him to pray and he would again be forgiven

It’s not just meaningless saying “ oh I’m so sorry lord “ yet in your heart you still plan on continuing in whatever the issue is it’s not lip service repentance is to be deep In us because we begin to hear the call in the gospel

so then when we’ve stepped out of line or begin to sink because we have weak faith like Peter just like Peter we don’t have to drown we can reach up and call
Out “ Lord save me !” And he will always reach down and set us back in the boat

Your right. Either about the fact that we need to let the scripture turn our hearts against sin no argument there but when someone sins we have to speak the truth about repentance and remission of sins so they don’t get the wrong idea and give up thinking they are condemned

Christ is able to save us brother all we have to do is fully trust in him and believe the thkngs he teaches us to know believe and walk in as we grow up

there’s a process of maturing in Christ new born babies aren’t required to do the work of an adult nor is a seedling tree going to bear visible fruit but if they are watered and nurtured for a season as they grow thier stock gets stronger and The foliage begins to bloom , later the fruit begins to come forth and is harvested

It’s a process we all are t at the same place yet but all of us belong to Christ if we don’t one day he’ll make the call himself when we stand before him in judgement for what we’ve done in our lives .

“And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground; And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.

For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself;

first the blade,

then the ear,

after that the full corn in the ear.

But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭4:26-29‬ ‭



it’s a lifetime process like bekng born and growing into a child then a teen then an adult we get wiser and better as we grow up in Christ just like in the natural world were never going to be fully complete but always disciples
i get it, you think i'm a Pharisee. How am i supposed to tell people to stop sinning unless i say i stopped sinning? Just because there isn't a mark the beast doesn't mean the end isn't soon. Time is up ...these people need to stop clowning around.
 
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God is not done with Israel!
 
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All i hear is excuses to not overcome the beast ...we do it through CHRIST ...it was why the Last Adam was here!

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
 

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Israel is not the church. That's false theology. There are still promises God has yet to keep that has nothing to do with the church, Gentiles.
In the scriptures it's written in Amos 3: 1 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, 2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

The God of Israel (The God of the Bible) pronounced a sentence upon Israel. He told them that if they would not keep his laws and abide by his rules, he would curse them, telling them exactly what would befall them. Israel broke his laws and did not keep his rules, so the Lord cursed them as he said he would. (See Deuteronomy 28th chapter).

But let's pay close attention to what Paul is saying here in Romans 9: 4 who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Looks like Israel the church to me according to Paul is saying here, all of this comes under the banner of Israel. But let's see something else Paul says in Romans 3: 1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

For what purpose did the Lord choose the children of Israel? (Exodus 19: 1-6) Let's look at the 5th & 6th vs.; "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (6th vs.) and ye shall be unto me a Kingdom of Priest, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews, quoting Moses in 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
 

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Rev_12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.