What does, “But the one who endures to the end will be saved” mean?

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justbyfaith

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Galatians 3:24 does not tell you that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ? Romans 3:20 does not tell you that it does this by showing man that he is a sinner in need of a Saviour? And Psalms 19:7 does not tell you that the law has the power to convert the soul?

I suggest you read those verses again.

Also, it is obvious what claim I am making; so there is no need for me to ask you which claim you are talking about.

It is obviously the claim that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ; in context of this conversation.
 
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We know the fate of those who are not saved.

Please support the rest of your observations with scripture. Thanks in advance.😊
Matthew 24:13 plainly states that one must endure till death, under any circumstance.
No backsies in afterlife. Parable of the rich man, Luke 16:19-31.
Only those seed who have taken root will grow. Parable of the sower. Matthew 13:3-9.

Eph 2:8 only Grace in the Eyes of God will get you to heaven.
The dead are not very graceful even though faithful James 2:17
Doing works, accepting consequence in the Name of God is Graceful Romans 4:4-6

Grace and faith are 2 different things. Faith is on the part of the sinner seeking God. Grace as seen by the Deity can only be given by God. Faith is driven by free will on the part of the sinner. Grace by the Will of God. The doctrine of grace is a false teaching conflating Grace with faith. Faith is necessary condition but not sufficient one.

Revelation 6 the fifth seal explains why there is continued deaths of martyrs. Matt 23:22 follows on this notion. When is martyrdom meaningless? When there is no life. When is resurrection to the New Earth meaningless? When there is no old earth to make anew.
The likely future event is a thermonuclear exchange (rising contender China vs declining dominant USA). Historians say there is a 75% chance of war in such situations. American Generals have said there would be conflicts with China in 6 months (that was 8 months ago).

There are numerous oracles of punishment in the OT. They follow a specific form. Identify the plaintiff. Charges are filed. And then the punishment. Revelation follows the same. The plaintiff - 7 churches. Charges - 3 spirit (et al.) infests them (Nicolaitans, Balaam, and Jezebel). These churches do not have their own bishopric but are before God. Thus, the 7 Churches are the temples within and the punishments (tribulations) and history of the beast all pertain to Christendom. The mark of the beast is that one has chosen their elohim other than God.

The fantastical tribulation and rapture theology takes your attention away from ball. Beware of the 3 spirits in Rev 2-3.
 

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Faith is indeed a sufficient condition (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 4:1-8)
 

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Matthew 24:13 plainly states that one must endure till death, under any circumstance.
No backsies in afterlife. Parable of the rich man, Luke 16:19-31.
Only those seed who have taken root will grow. Parable of the sower. Matthew 13:3-9.

Eph 2:8 only Grace in the Eyes of God will get you to heaven.
The dead are not very graceful even though faithful James 2:17
Doing works, accepting consequence in the Name of God is Graceful Romans 4:4-6

Grace and faith are 2 different things. Faith is on the part of the sinner seeking God. Grace as seen by the Deity can only be given by God. Faith is driven by free will on the part of the sinner. Grace by the Will of God. The doctrine of grace is a false teaching conflating Grace with faith. Faith is necessary condition but not sufficient one.

Revelation 6 the fifth seal explains why there is continued deaths of martyrs. Matt 23:22 follows on this notion. When is martyrdom meaningless? When there is no life. When is resurrection to the New Earth meaningless? When there is no old earth to make anew.
The likely future event is a thermonuclear exchange (rising contender China vs declining dominant USA). Historians say there is a 75% chance of war in such situations. American Generals have said there would be conflicts with China in 6 months (that was 8 months ago).

There are numerous oracles of punishment in the OT. They follow a specific form. Identify the plaintiff. Charges are filed. And then the punishment. Revelation follows the same. The plaintiff - 7 churches. Charges - 3 spirit (et al.) infests them (Nicolaitans, Balaam, and Jezebel). These churches do not have their own bishopric but are before God. Thus, the 7 Churches are the temples within and the punishments (tribulations) and history of the beast all pertain to Christendom. The mark of the beast is that one has chosen their elohim other than God.

The fantastical tribulation and rapture theology takes your attention away from ball. Beware of the 3 spirits in Rev 2-3.
I'm well aware of more than 3 spirits active on this plane right now.
Those who call rapture theology and scripture a lie make them impossible to miss.

When your premise is grounded in error the rest of the supposition is too.

You said:
"Grace and faith are 2 different things. ..."

That's not true.

They are the same.

How?

They are grace filled irrevocable gifts from God.

No, no scripture. Those have been posted innumerable times already. To what end? Those who live in the word know them,live them, defend what is eternal and need not the voice of man to reiterate the eternal Word that is God. Yet we do so.
Not because God's truth need be proven true.

But because we are called to speak the truth sent from Heaven so that the Devil, wherever he lay, whomever he leads, will forever in this world where he is lord of the darkness,till the end of days, be reminded of the Light.


What Did Ancient Church Fathers Believe About The Rapture?

“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” – 1 Thessalonians 4:17.


John Darby has been incorrectly credited with “inventing” the Rapture.
 

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Galatians 3:24 does not tell you that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ? Romans 3:20 does not tell you that it does this by showing man that he is a sinner in need of a Saviour? And Psalms 19:7 does not tell you that the law has the power to convert the soul?

I suggest you read those verses again.

Also, it is obvious what claim I am making; so there is no need for me to ask you which claim you are talking about.

It is obviously the claim that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ; in context of this conversation.
I see that you disagree with my statements, @Icedaisey.

The reader who reads the verses in question will see that the verses I have given do in fact substantiate what I have said to you; even though it may be true that 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 may be in application as concerning your eyes.
 
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I'm well aware of more than 3 spirits active on this plane right now.
Those who call rapture theology and scripture a lie make them impossible to miss.

When your premise is grounded in error the rest of the supposition is too.

You said:
"Grace and faith are 2 different things. ..."

That's not true.

They are the same.

How?

They are grace filled irrevocable gifts from God.

No, no scripture. Those have been posted innumerable times already. To what end? Those who live in the word know them,live them, defend what is eternal and need not the voice of man to reiterate the eternal Word that is God. Yet we do so.
Not because God's truth need be proven true.

But because we are called to speak the truth sent from Heaven so that the Devil, wherever he lay, whomever he leads, will forever in this world where he is lord of the darkness,till the end of days, be reminded of the Light.


What Did Ancient Church Fathers Believe About The Rapture?

“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” – 1 Thessalonians 4:17.

John Darby has been incorrectly credited with “inventing” the Rapture.
Your discernment is lacking in my opinion, so your awareness holds no weight.

Know what is yours and what is God's. Your faith and your grace (as you would see yourself) is meaningless in the final count. Only Grace in the Eyes of God will gain you entry to the dinner party. That is how one squares all the verses. Not just the ones which you agree with. The doctrine of grace results from belief in unconditional election. Somewhat ungraceful, no?

Is 1 Thessalonians 4:17 the only thing driving this theology. The verse as commented by Ellicott as
"To meet the Lord in the air.—St. Chrysostom says:” When the King cometh into a city, they that are honourable proceed forth to meet him, but the guilty await their judge within.” The phrase “in the air” certainly does not mean “heaven.” The word “air”) in itself properly signifies the lower, denser, grosser atmosphere, in which the powers of darkness reign (Ephesians 2:2); but here it is only used in contrast with the ground, and means “on the way from Heaven whence He comes,” of course not to dwell there, but to accompany Him to His Judgment-seat on the earth.

Please show me more, if you chose. Not enough to make a movie I think.
 
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Your discernment is lacking in my opinion, so your awareness holds no weight.

Know what is yours and what is God's. Your faith and your grace (as you would see yourself) is meaningless in the final count. Only Grace in the Eyes of God will gain you entry to the dinner party. That is how one squares all the verses. Not just the ones which you agree with. The doctrine of grace results from belief in unconditional election. Somewhat ungraceful, no?

Is 1 Thessalonians 4:17 the only thing driving this theology. The verse as commented by Ellicott as
"To meet the Lord in the air.—St. Chrysostom says:” When the King cometh into a city, they that are honourable proceed forth to meet him, but the guilty await their judge within.” The phrase “in the air” certainly does not mean “heaven.” The word “air”) in itself properly signifies the lower, denser, grosser atmosphere, in which the powers of darkness reign (Ephesians 2:2); but here it is only used in contrast with the ground, and means “on the way from Heaven whence He comes,” of course not to dwell there, but to accompany Him to His Judgment-seat on the earth.

Please show me more, if you chose. Not enough to make a movie I think.
Correct - when He Comes we meet Him and then we accompany Him to the Slaughter of those who know not God and are of the wicked one.
 

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Galatians 3:24 does not tell you that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ? Romans 3:20 does not tell you that it does this by showing man that he is a sinner in need of a Saviour? And Psalms 19:7 does not tell you that the law has the power to convert the soul?

I suggest you read those verses again.

Also, it is obvious what claim I am making; so there is no need for me to ask you which claim you are talking about.

It is obviously the claim that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ; in context of this conversation.
I suggest you read Galatians 3 so as to understand the message in proper context.

Romans 3. Read that in proper context. The verse you excerpted verse 20? Does not state the law is a schoolmaster that leads us to Christ. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

The law does not lead anyone to Christ.

Jesus told us no one comes to Him unless the Father draws them. John 6:44.

Psalm 19, should also be read in full in context.

As pertains to your excerpted verse 7,
The law of the Lord is perfect,
refreshing the soul.
The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy,
making wise the simple.


Nor does that or any of your singular verse references tell us the law is a schoolmaster that leads sinners to Christ.

Why? Because, Jesus said no one comes to Him unless the Father draws them.

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin."

An interesting consideration along those lines is, how would the law of God bring sinners to Christ,repentance? When we are told the things if God, the Gospel, His word, the Law , are folly to unbelievers and can't be understood by them? Because such things are spiritually discerned.

A discernment not available to those dead in their sins.

If they're dead in their sins,unable to understand that which is only able to be understood by those in the Spirit, how can the law given by the Holy Spirit make them conscious of their sins when they can't understand what is only able to be spiritually discerned?
And being incapable of understanding the law due to that condition, how then can you claim the law brings sinners to Christ?



Romans 3:28 For we consider that a person[ap] is declared righteous by faith apart from the works of the law.[aq] 29 Or is God the God of the Jews only? Is he not the God of the Gentiles too? Yes, of the Gentiles too! 30 Since God is one,[ar] he will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then nullify[as] the law through faith? Absolutely not! Instead[at] we uphold the law.
 
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I suggest you read Galatians 3 so as to understand the message in proper context.

Romans 3. Read that in proper context. The verse you excerpted verse 20? Does not state the law is a schoolmaster that leads us to Christ. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

The law does not lead anyone to Christ.

Jesus told us no one comes to Him unless the Father draws them. John 6:44.

Psalm 19, should also be read in full in context.

As pertains to your excerpted verse 7,
The law of the Lord is perfect,
refreshing the soul.
The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy,
making wise the simple.


Nor does that or any of your singular verse references tell us the law is a schoolmaster that leads sinners to Christ.

Why? Because, Jesus said no one comes to Him unless the Father draws them.

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin."

An interesting consideration along those lines is, how would the law of God bring sinners to Christ,repentance? When we are told the things if God, the Gospel, His word, the Law , are folly to unbelievers and can't be understood by them? Because such things are spiritually discerned.

A discernment not available to those dead in their sins.

If they're dead in their sins,unable to understand that which is only able to be understood by those in the Spirit, how can the law given by the Holy Spirit make them conscious of their sins when they can't understand what is only able to be spiritually discerned?
And being incapable of understanding the law due to that condition, how then can you claim the law brings sinners to Christ?



Romans 3:28 For we consider that a person[ap] is declared righteous by faith apart from the works of the law.[aq] 29 Or is God the God of the Jews only? Is he not the God of the Gentiles too? Yes, of the Gentiles too! 30 Since God is one,[ar] he will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then nullify[as] the law through faith? Absolutely not! Instead[at] we uphold the law.
You blew my eyes out as i was not prepared for ZONK - GIANT PRINT - lol
 

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Your discernment is lacking in my opinion, so your awareness holds no weight.

Know what is yours and what is God's. Your faith and your grace (as you would see yourself) is meaningless in the final count. Only Grace in the Eyes of God will gain you entry to the dinner party. That is how one squares all the verses. Not just the ones which you agree with. The doctrine of grace results from belief in unconditional election. Somewhat ungraceful, no?

Is 1 Thessalonians 4:17 the only thing driving this theology. The verse as commented by Ellicott as
"To meet the Lord in the air.—St. Chrysostom says:” When the King cometh into a city, they that are honourable proceed forth to meet him, but the guilty await their judge within.” The phrase “in the air” certainly does not mean “heaven.” The word “air”) in itself properly signifies the lower, denser, grosser atmosphere, in which the powers of darkness reign (Ephesians 2:2); but here it is only used in contrast with the ground, and means “on the way from Heaven whence He comes,” of course not to dwell there, but to accompany Him to His Judgment-seat on the earth.

Please show me more, if you chose. Not enough to make a movie I think.
When you're incapable of discernment through my efforts to date, it would be folly to try to reach you further. A
I see that you disagree with my statements, @Icedaisey.

The reader who reads the verses in question will see that the verses I have given do in fact substantiate what I have said to you; even though it may be true that 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 may be in application as concerning your eyes.
🤓

John 9 The parable of the blind man coincides with the other passage in 1 Corinthians 2:14, The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

We know about sin and God's law.
However, if we accept what God tells us, the things of God are spiritually discerned and the natural man cannot understand them, then how can we think the natural man can be led by God's law to find Jesus?
1 Corinthians 2:13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

Job 32:8
But it is the spirit in man,
the breath of the Almighty, that makes him understand.

Proverbs 4:19 The way of the wicked is like darkness;
They do not know over what they stumble.

Lactose intolerant?
1 Peter 2:2 Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation...
 

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John 9:31 We know God does not listen to the cry of sinners, when, as sinners, they ask from the ground of their sin, to secure their own sinful purpose; but if any man be a worshipper of God (the word Θεοσεβής is an ἅπαξ λεγόμενον, and occurs nowhere else in the New Testament), and doeth his (God's) will, this man he heareth.

Anyone with gboard advice? How's its spell check correct change "of" (God) to , if God? Aggravating.🤐
 

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I suggest you read Galatians 3 so as to understand the message in proper context.

Romans 3. Read that in proper context. The verse you excerpted verse 20? Does not state the law is a schoolmaster that leads us to Christ. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

The law does not lead anyone to Christ.

Jesus told us no one comes to Him unless the Father draws them. John 6:44.

Psalm 19, should also be read in full in context.

As pertains to your excerpted verse 7,
The law of the Lord is perfect,
refreshing the soul.
The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy,
making wise the simple.


Nor does that or any of your singular verse references tell us the law is a schoolmaster that leads sinners to Christ.

Why? Because, Jesus said no one comes to Him unless the Father draws them.

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin."

An interesting consideration along those lines is, how would the law of God bring sinners to Christ,repentance? When we are told the things if God, the Gospel, His word, the Law , are folly to unbelievers and can't be understood by them? Because such things are spiritually discerned.

A discernment not available to those dead in their sins.

If they're dead in their sins,unable to understand that which is only able to be understood by those in the Spirit, how can the law given by the Holy Spirit make them conscious of their sins when they can't understand what is only able to be spiritually discerned?
And being incapable of understanding the law due to that condition, how then can you claim the law brings sinners to Christ?



Romans 3:28 For we consider that a person[ap] is declared righteous by faith apart from the works of the law.[aq] 29 Or is God the God of the Jews only? Is he not the God of the Gentiles too? Yes, of the Gentiles too! 30 Since God is one,[ar] he will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then nullify[as] the law through faith? Absolutely not! Instead[at] we uphold the law.
Galatians 3:24 (kjv) clearly tells us that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ; Romans 3:20 (kjv) clearly tells us that God does this by showing man that he is a sinner in need of the Saviour / salvation, through the law. And Psalms 19:7 (kjv) clearly tells us that the law has the power to convert the soul.

I think that your problem might be that you are reading an alternate translation to the kjv.

I believe that in doing so, you are heaping to yourself a teacher to tell you what your itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).

Galatians 3:11 clearly tells us that no one will be justified in the sight of God through the keeping of the law; it does not exclude the possibility of the law converting the soul (Psalms 19:7 (kjv) by showing man that he is a sinner (Romans 3:20 (kjv)) and thus leading him to Christ as a schoolmaster.

I would also suggest that you read Hebrews 3:7-8, 3:15, and 4:7 as what those verses address also may be a part of your problem.

Another part of your problem might be what is addressed in 2 Corinthians 4:3-4; as you appear to be blind to the truth that these verses teach us about.
 

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However, if we accept what God tells us, the things of God are spiritually discerned and the natural man cannot understand them, then how can we think the natural man can be led by God's law to find Jesus?
1 Corinthians 2:13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

Job 32:8
But it is the spirit in man,
the breath of the Almighty, that makes him understand.

Proverbs 4:19 The way of the wicked is like darkness;
They do not know over what they stumble.

Lactose intolerant?
1 Peter 2:2 Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation...
By the law is the knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20).

And, it is a part of the process of regeneration that a man must understand that he is a sinner in need of a Saviour before he can come to a genuine, saving faith in Christ.

Yes, this is a work that is done by the Holy Ghost; the Holy Spirit utilizes God's law to show mankind that he is a sinner in need of the Saviour.
 
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When you're incapable of discernment through my efforts to date, it would be folly to try to reach you further. A

🤓

John 9 The parable of the blind man coincides with the other passage in 1 Corinthians 2:14, The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

We know about sin and God's law.
However, if we accept what God tells us, the things of God are spiritually discerned and the natural man cannot understand them, then how can we think the natural man can be led by God's law to find Jesus?
1 Corinthians 2:13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

Job 32:8
But it is the spirit in man,
the breath of the Almighty, that makes him understand.

Proverbs 4:19 The way of the wicked is like darkness;
They do not know over what they stumble.

Lactose intolerant?
1 Peter 2:2 Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation...
I think you are in error in your response, in so many ways. ;-)
Not sure if you are coming or going.
 
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I guess what I am learning here is the meaning of John 3, the exchange between Jesus and Nicodemus. Truly GOD works in mysterious ways!!
 

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Galatians 3:24 (kjv) clearly tells us that the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ; Romans 3:20 (kjv) clearly tells us that God does this by showing man that he is a sinner in need of the Saviour / salvation, through the law. And Psalms 19:7 (kjv) clearly tells us that the law has the power to convert the soul.

I think that your problem might be that you are reading an alternate translation to the kjv.

I believe that in doing so, you are heaping to yourself a teacher to tell you what your itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).

Galatians 3:11 clearly tells us that no one will be justified in the sight of God through the keeping of the law; it does not exclude the possibility of the law converting the soul (Psalms 19:7 (kjv) by showing man that he is a sinner (Romans 3:20 (kjv)) and thus leading him to Christ as a schoolmaster.

I would also suggest that you read Hebrews 3:7-8, 3:15, and 4:7 as what those verses address also may be a part of your problem.

Another part of your problem might be what is addressed in 2 Corinthians 4:3-4; as you appear to be blind to the truth that these verses teach us about.
What an interesting perspective.
May God grant you a long and happily blessed life.
In Jesus name, amen.
 

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I think you are in error in your response, in so many ways. ;-)
Not sure if you are coming or going.
You don't know where I'm going because you are unable and unwilling to cast aside your counterfeit man made map. And that is why you have not the eyes to see.

May God bless you with a long and blessed life. In Jesus name, amen.
 

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What an interesting perspective.
May God grant you a long and happily blessed life.
In Jesus name, amen.
Thank you.

And may the Lord also do for you the same; and also receive you as a son.

(Psalms 62:4).
 

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I think one of the major issues of contention, whether or not The Elect of God, Christians, will go through the Great Tribulation, is due to a major misunderstanding of the scripture in both Ephesians 2:8 and Matthew 24:13. It is my hope this article saved in my favorites file for years now will assist in clearing that up.


June 24, 2017
In Matt 24:13, Jesus says the famous words:
But the one who endures to the end will be saved. (ESV)​
Perhaps the most common understanding of this passage is that we must endure in good works to the end of our physical lives to be saved from hell. This understanding contradicts Paul’s words in Eph 2:8a:
For by grace you have been saved through faith. (ESV)​
Notice two differences between Eph 2:8a and Matt 24:13: First, the Matt 24:13 salvation is by enduring whereas the Eph 2:8a salvation is by grace through faith. Second, the Matt 24:13 salvation is future (“will be saved,” from the Greek future tense, sothesetai) whereas the Eph 2:8a salvation is past (“have been saved,” from the Greek perfect tense sesosmenoi). Salvation from hell was by grace through faith and has already happened to me, so what is the future salvation by endurance that Jesus is talking about in Matt 24:13? The answer is in the context.
Matthew 24:13 is part of an answer to the question that Jesus’ disciples asked earlier in the chapter:
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (Matt 24:3 ESV)​
It makes sense that the salvation in vs 13 should be in the future tense; after all, the disciples are asking about the future. Specifically, they were asking about the 7-year tribulation period. One reason we know that the Tribulation is in view is because Jesus says that the abomination of desolation (which Daniel talks about in Dan 9) will occur during this period. We also know that this is the tribulation because they asked immediately after Jesus said that not one stone of the temple would be left on another – surely a reference to the replacement of the 2nd temple with the temple that Ezekiel writes about in Ez 40-48.

Yep. There are still stones on top of each other.
(source)

We already know that the salvation in question is not salvation from hell, so what is it a salvation from? In verse 22, Jesus indicates that salvation from physical death is in mind:
And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. (ESV)​
When Jesus says, “He who endures to the end will be saved,” He does not mean that you must be good until you die to be saved from hell. He is talking about a specific group of people in the future who will need to endure to the end of the tribulation in order to be saved from physical death.
Understanding Matt 24:13 is good news for several reasons. It’s good news to know that we don’t need to endure to the end of the Tribulation because we aren’t in the Tribulation. It’s also good news to know that we won’t even be in the Tribulation, in fact, this is the doctrine that Paul points to for us to encourage each other with.1 Perhaps most of all, it’s a relief to know that we can take Jesus at His word to give eternal life to whomever believes in Him for it:
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24 ESV)​

  1. See this article by a popular theologian.
Salvation is by grace through faith/ believe not only by grace minus faith.
As long as we Keep faith we get the grace.
Faith is the key to acces grace, without faith we font have grace.

Noah save from the flood because of the grace of Zgod inform him about the coming flood and he have faith that cause him to work 120 years to build a giant arch.
He save by grace but his faith make him work to build an arch
Faith without work is dead
Grace without faith will be useless

Imagine this story below
God grace Noah with information about the coming flood
Noah don't believe/and did not build an arch. Did he save from the flood?
Need faith to acces the grace