What does the Law REALLY say?

[KohenMatt]

RITUAL PURITY – Part 2 of 2

105 Leviticus 15:6 - On Tumah (unclean) of semen.
And he that sitteth on any thing whereon he sat that hath the issue shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.


106 Leviticus 15:19 - Tumah (unclean) of a zavah (woman suffering from a running issue).
And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.


107 Numbers 19:14 - On Tumah (unclean) of a human corpse.
This is the law, when a man dieth in a tent: all that come into the tent, and all that is in the tent, shall be unclean seven days.


108 Numbers 19:13 - Law of the purification water of sprinkling, mei niddah.
Whosoever toucheth the dead body of any man that is dead, and purifieth not himself, defileth the tabernacle of the Lord; and that soul shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet upon him.


109 Leviticus 15:16 - On immersing in a mikveh to become ritually clean.
And if any mans seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even.


110 Leviticus 14:2 - On the specified procedure of cleansing from leprosy.
This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:


111 Leviticus 14:9 - On that a leper must shave his head.
But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.


112 Leviticus 13:45 - On that the leper must be made easily distinguishable.
And the leper in whom the plague is, his clothes shall be rent, and his head bare, and he shall put a covering upon his upper lip, and shall cry, Unclean, unclean.


113 Numbers 19:2 - On Ashes of the Red Heifer, used in ritual purification.
This is the ordinance of the law which the Lord hath commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke:

 

[chubbena]

As I said, rhetorically, you are saying the written law is the same one God put in our hearts? A flawed law that is impossible for us to keep? You really have no clue what the perfect law of liberty is. That is sad, folks that don't understand things trying to teach them.


The law is the old covenant. Why is that so hard to see?
You really don't understand much of what you talk about.

Obedience to the Law by the flesh is the Old Covenant way. Obedience to God's Will, which is eternal, under the New Covenant is done spiritual, with the Law and the Spirit implanted so that we may have the desire and the will do serve God's Law (Romans 7) which is fulfilled by Love.

Obedience to the Law by the flesh is never His way for He says in Deuteronomy 30:11-20
Now what I am commanding (the ten words) you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.

Not to mention what He spoke through Moses in Deuteronomy 6:5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

He did say 'with all your strength', didn't He?

 

[Elin]

the New Testament command

Luke 22:1 (KJV)
Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called (the Passover).

Matthew 26:17 (KJV)
Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him,
Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

Mark 14:12 (KJV)
And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him,
Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said,
Take, eat: this is my body.
23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.


24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine,
until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.


Acts 12:3 (KJV)
And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after (the days of unleavened bread),
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


1 Corinthians 5:7 (KJV)
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)
Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Is this commanded to be done once a year at apointed time

or anytime churches feel like it ?

"The NT command" does not begin until the blue text.
The preparations were an OT command regarding an OT observance.

The verses in black text are OT commands, specified in the OT when they were to be performed.

The verses in blue text are NT events.
1) Reference to Jewish observance of OT commands in the NT does not make theses observances NT commands.
2) The Lord's Supper is to be observed regularly.
3) 1Co 5:7-8 reflect the NT meaning of the OT command.

Proofs are based on the meaning of texts in their contexts, not just on specific words contained in a text.

 

[just-me]

Obedience to the Law by the flesh is never His way for He says in Deuteronomy 30:11-20
Now what I am commanding (the ten words) you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.

Not to mention what He spoke through Moses in Deuteronomy 6:5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

He did say 'with all your strength', didn't He?

You're right on target with scripture. No one who is accused of wanting to be under the law is under the law in any way, but we are exercising, and living the law of liberty through Christ Jesus. It is a sweet savor unto the Lord, for in His word we die to ourselves daily as Paul said about Himself.

Leviticus 4:27-31
27 And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done , and be guilty ;
28 Or if his sin, which he hath sinned , come to his knowledge : then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned .
29 And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering.
30 And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar.
31 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.

Romans 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

It's not the works of the law that matters. It's the desire to come before the throne of grace through the High Priest, Jesus Christ, and let Him do the work of separation according to God's Holy ordinances. The offerer only kills the sacrifice, and the Priest does the rest. All of it.

 

[Elin]

Jesus Christ's gospel teaches of the faith of Abraham. Paul speaks of the true Jew as he who is one inwardly. Again, Jesus Christ told the hypocrites, if you believe Moses and the prophets, you would believe me, for they wrote about me.

Anyone who loves in the holy manner when reading the Law knows by the teaching of Jesus Christ that there are laws with that indeed do fall under the heading of love, and these are the laws that should always be in effect. Study them, and throw out all that deal with sacrifice for there is no sacrifice after the only one for sin, our Lord's. Throw out any laws about what to eat or not eat except for Paul's stipulations on things strangled, blood, and things that have died of themselves because Jesus made all foods clean. And in keeping with the curse that was nailed to the cross, death, Jesus Christ teaches us all that
mercy over rides punishment and death. We are to be merciful.

Neither Jesus nor Paul set aside capital punishment.

So stop being afraid of the instruction from the Father.
Jesus said the laws are not abolished, but completed. He did this by His Example and personal teaching. Jesus Christ is the Word, and
the written Word begins with Genesis, so read and believe it all amen.

Does that include

Heb 7:18-10 - the law has been set aside because it was weak and useless to obtain righteousness,
Mt 22:37-39; 1Co 9:20; Gal 6:2; 1Co 9:21 - the law of Moses has been replaced with the law of Christ,
Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8-10; Gal 5:6 - the law of Christ fulfills (accomplishes) the law,

so that all (nothing more) that matters is faith expressing itself in love (Gal 5:6)?

 

[Elin]

And the Lord said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Keeping in mind that covenant is now obsolete (Heb 8:13), having been replaced with the New Covenant (Lk 22:20).

 

[Elin]

The church that we have in this dispensation have believers who have trusted in the blood of Christ and have become new creatures, who have a new covenant ratified by that blood making the other old and obsolete. This new church is a body with members in particular who have the Spirit and are sealed with that Spirit until the day of redemption, who are not under the law but under grace and truth through the very nature of Christ. It is His righteousness that has been imputed unto each one when they believed in Him by faith through His death, burial and resurrection and not according to the law. The Holy Spirit that indwells the believer convicts the heart and supplies the grace that is needed to be warned against sin, to stop sin from continuing and to overcome the dominion of sin.

These are things that the law could not so. When a sinner believes upon Christ the blood cleanses the conscience, the Spirit brings light where there was no light. This light gently exposes the darkness of sin that the soul has been in bondage to with all of its effects of guilt in the conscience. Then
grace is supplied abundantly to give the believer what is needed
to be free from the root of sin and the condemnation of that sin. Old things are passed away and everything become new for the believer. God begins this good work and will perform it for the remainder of that believer's life so that the believer will recognize sin and respond to grace to grow up in Christ. Sin will no longer be desirable and if the believer sins they have an advocate, Christ, instead of the condemnation of the law.

May I point out one detail in your excellent post?

We are freed from the condemnation of sin when we are placed in Christ.
There is no more condemnation after that to be freed from (Ro 8:1), right?

 

[Elin]

No power can get through the Blood of Jesus Christ to harm anyone who believes Him. It is painful to see a believer is afraid of the Devil. Yes, we should all be on the alert for the enemy's nefarious devices, but with Jesus as our Hero, we have nothing to fear.

I have just done what you did. I have taken out part of what you posted and replied to it only. It is not an honest reply to a post is it? What I posted is a lot more than what you reply to.

Since the instant God put His Holy Spirit into me with the message that everything is going to be just fine, I have had no worries or fears as you have assuimed here.

I read all of the Word, and because of what Paul teaches, I will not say I belong to Paul, I belong to Jesus Christ. If I read less of Paul, it is only because his writings are less. By the way, I have been rereading in the Epistles now for several weeks in my daily study, and I should be continuing in them for a couple of months more. Now when I finish there, I will most likely begin again at Genesis. Now the Epistles are my present study object, however I read in several other parts of the Word daily.
Just how much credit do you believe a believer should take from Jesus Christ and give to Paul? Paul says none.

Where did you ever come up with the idea that "taking" (whatever that is) from Jesus Christ is "giving" to Paul?

What an absurd dichotomy you make in the NT Word of God!

Paul received all his revelation from Jesus Christ.
The two do not differ.

 

[Elin]

JaumeJ, you do not under what Paul is teaching in (2 Cor chapter 3) and that is your downfall...

1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

You can't do away with the glory associated with the ministration of death and condemnation (THE TORAH) without exceeding that glory with another, the ministration of righteousness through the Spirit and it is in that glory of the Lord that we behold and are changed into the same image from glory to glory.

12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read (THE TORAH), the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it (THE HEART) shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image (THAT EXCEEDS IN GLORY) from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord (NOT BY THE TORAH).

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BradC again.

 

[JaumeJ]

If a person is familiar with the Epistles of Paul, he knows Paul's gospel is the one he received from our Savior, Jesus Christ, by revelation. He could have received it as all others do by having faith in what Jesus taught all, but he was occupied in oppressing the believers in Messiah. Paul teaches the gospel he teaches and preaches is the gospel of Jesus Chjrist.

Anyone who knows Jesus Christ by His Holy Spirit and His teachings knows He was not an advocate of laws that call for capitol punishement. The prime example is the woman caught in adultery, in flagranti delicto. The law demands she be stoned to death, she and her partner. Where he was, no one seems to know. We are always to choose mercy over punishment, unless one believes we will not be judged by the judgment we mete out.

These are easy lessons from the Word and given by the Holy Spirit. Anyone wishing to make acid remarks to the contrary is welcome to, however it is incorrect to do so.

Änd yes, there is a certain cultism within the people who say the believe Jesus Christ who do give more credit to Paul than to Jesus Christ, taking from Jesus to give to Paul. I am sorry that is too complicated for all to digest. Remember, we may not be sitting in the same pew, but we are in the same assembly, in Jesus Christ!

 

[Elin]

Let's see what He said before He became flesh knowing that He changes not:

Yes, let's. . .

Deuteronomy 5:22 These are the commandments the Lord (the ten words) proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.
He said His commandments are not difficult cf Deuteronomy 30:11-20 and Paul in turn quoted in his letter to the Romans.

But He indeed added more - because of transgressions He added sacrificial law which is the type for Christ.

So Moses lied?

Did you read the text?

He added nothing more to the Ten Commandmentst of Dt 5:1-21, to which Moses was referring in Dt 5:22, and which were the Mosaic Covenant (Ex 34:28; Dt 4:13).

Because of disobedience He gave them over to laws that are hard to keep cf Ezekiel 20:24-25
because they had not obeyed my laws but had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths, and their eyes lusted after their parents’ idols. So
I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live.

Yes, that was the curse of Dt 28:47-48, executed in 2Chr 12:1-8, when they were placed under
the laws of Shishak, king of Egypt, which were not good and through which they could not live.

 

[Elin]

You're right on target with scripture. No one who is accused of wanting to be under the law is under the law in any way, but we are exercising, and living the law of liberty through Christ Jesus. It is a sweet savor unto the Lord, for in His word we die to ourselves daily as Paul said about Himself.

Leviticus 4:27-31
27 And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done , and be guilty ;
28 Or if his sin, which he hath sinned , come to his knowledge : then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned .
29 And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering.
30 And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar.
31 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.

Romans 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

It's not the works of the law that matters. It's the desire to come before the throne of grace through the High Priest, Jesus Christ, and let Him do the work of separation according to God's Holy ordinances.
The offerer only kills the sacrifice, and the Priest does the rest. All of it.

Actually, the offerer also skins it, cuts it up and washes the inner parts and legs. (Lev 1:6-9)

 

[chubbena]

So Moses lied?

Did the Word of God who spoke through Moses?

Did you read the text?

He added nothing more to the Ten Commandmentst of Dt 5:1-21, to which Moses was referring in Dt 5:22,

Did you not read what I wrote and understand what I was responding to?

and which were the Mosaic Covenant (Ex 34:28; Dt 4:13).

And your point is? And are the ten Words solely belong to that covenant? Are the ten Words not the word of God which man is to live by?


Yes, that was the curse of Dt 28:47-48, executed in 2Chr 12:1-8, when they were placed under
the laws of Shishak, king of Egypt, which were not good and through which they could not live.[/QUOTE]That's it and nothing to do with Assyrians and Babylonians?

 

[Flamingspirit]

Let's see what He said before He became flesh knowing that He changes not:

Deuteronomy 5:22 These are the commandments the Lord (the ten words) proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.
He said His commandments are not difficult cf Deuteronomy 30:11-20 and Paul in turn quoted in his letter to the Romans.

But He indeed added more - because of transgressions He added sacrificial law which is the type for Christ.

Because of disobedience He gave them over to laws that are hard to keep cf Ezekiel 20:24-25 because they had not obeyed my laws but had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths, and their eyes lusted after their parents’ idols. So I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live.

Now let's see where we're at now.

Hebrews 12:18-24

18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,


19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:


20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:


21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake


22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,


23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,


24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

It is here we learn this.

Galatians 3:19-20

19[B[ Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.[/B]


20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

"Thou shalt not's" was added because we break the love covenant.

 

[cfultz3]

And are the ten Words solely belong to that covenant? Are the ten Words not the word of God which man is to live by?

They who live by the the Law shall die through the Law, seeing that sin uses the Law to bring forth death to those who are under it, as to be dictated/lead on the path towards God by it.

They who live by the Law of the Spirit of Life From Christ, the Law of Love which is mental, shall not only fulfill/serve that Law, but have their fruits unto the Spirit. Therefore, let us choose the Law from the Spirit and not the Law from the flesh.

Let us not live our life by what is written upon paper, but let us live according to the Law of the Spirit which brings life.

 

[Elin]

If a person is familiar with the Epistles of Paul, he knows Paul's gospel is the one he received from our Savior, Jesus Christ, by revelation. He could have received it as all others do by having faith in what Jesus taught all, but he was occupied in oppressing the believers in Messiah. Paul teaches the gospel he teaches and preaches is the gospel of Jesus Chjrist.

Anyone who knows Jesus Christ by His Holy Spirit and His teachings
knows He was not an advocate of laws that call for capitol punishement.

Anyone who knows the NT knows that Jesus never spoke against,
nor did he set aside, capital punishment.
That is your personal opinion with no NT foundation.

When Peter drew his sword to split the skull of the High Priest's servant
(the servant dodging) and Peter severed his ear, Jesus reminded him
of the law of capital punishment and told him to put away his sword
or he would be subject to capital punishment.

The prime example is the woman caught in adultery, in flagranti delicto.
The law demands she be stoned to death, she and her partner.

No, the law demanded stoning only if she were a betrothed virgin (Dt 22:23-24).

The law also required the execution of both parties,
you couldn't execute one without executing the other.

And the law demanded two witnesses who had seen the act.

None of these legal conditions were met, and without them she could not be legally stoned.

Jesus didn't "go around the law" here, he followed it exactly,

. . .and took the opportunity to expose the sins of her accusers,
which I personally think is what he was writing in the sand,
one by one, which is why they left one by one when they saw
their own sin written.

Your view is not based in the Scriptural facts.

Änd yes, there is a certain cultism within the
people who say the believe Jesus Christ
who do give more credit to Paul than to Jesus Christ,
taking from Jesus to give to Paul. I am sorry that is too complicated for all to digest.

That makes no sense at all.

Jesus said what he said, and Paul said what Jesus revealed to him,
and both are a matter of record in the NT Word of God.

How do you "take" what is in the written record from one and "give" it to another.
That makes no sense at all.

You advocate an absurd and false dichotomy of the NT Word of God.

 

[JaumeJ]

Must the word "authority" which is understood by anyone who is able to follow the thread of the post be pointed out to you? The only dichotomy here is in your imagination it seems.

As for capitol punishement, no one who believes Jesus Christ is an advocate of war or capitol punishment. If you are for it, and you have ever had a hateful thuoght towards anyone, and it is certain you have, you will be judged by your own yardstick, so please do not infer Jesus Christ condones capitol punishment.

Your imagination is working overtime. I have demonstrated by concrete teachings from Pau and Messiah what I have shared here, but it seems you cannot absorb truth without returning pure conjecture and negativity. Good night from here. May God give you vision in the spirit and a heart of mercy for others.

 

[KohenMatt]

DONATIONS TO THE TEMPLE – Part 1 of 2

114 Leviticus 27:2 - On the valuation for a person himself to the Temple.
Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy estimation.


115 Leviticus 27:11 - On the valuation for an unclean beast to the Temple.
And if it be any unclean beast, of which they do not offer a sacrifice unto the Lord, then he shall present the beast before the priest:


116 Leviticus 27:14 - On the valuation of a house as a donation to the Temple.
And when a man shall sanctify his house to be holy unto the Lord, then the priest shall estimate it, whether it be good or bad: as the priest shall estimate it, so shall it stand.


117 Leviticus 27:16 - On the valuation of a field as a donation to the Temple.
And if a man shall sanctify unto the Lord some part of a field of his possession, then thy estimation shall be according to the seed thereof: an homer of barley seed shall be valued at fifty shekels of silver.


118 Leviticus 5:16 - If benefit from Temple property, restitution plus 1/5th.
And he shall make amends for the harm that he hath done in the holy thing, and shall add the fifth part thereto, and give it unto the priest: and the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him.


119 Leviticus 19:24 - On the fruits of the trees fourth year's growth.
But in the fourth year all the fruit thereof shall be holy to praise the Lord withal.


120 Leviticus 19:9 - On leaving the corners (Peah) of fields for the poor.
And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.


121 Leviticus 19:9 - On leaving gleanings of the field for the poor.
And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.


122 Deuteronomy 24:19 - On leaving the forgotten sheaf for the poor.
When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.


123 Leviticus 19:10 - On leaving the misformed grape clusters for the poor.
And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the Lord your God.

 

[Elin]

You must also realize what love is. It is first and for most undefinable.
Keeping the commandments is love, but what does this mean?

Jesus said to love one another as He loved us, as His Father does by sending the sun to shine on the good and the bad. Thou shalt not's are not commandments written in the heart, but an added commandment because the law (love) was transgressed. You can only kill out of hate, which is defined by our world and what we see.

The law, or all those "thou shalt not's" is for the lawless or those that without them, would do them more. Or because of it, they exploit or take advantage of those who cannot for whatever reason live up to as mush of it as them. Mischief is truly framed on the law.

Let's see what He said before He became flesh knowing that He changes not:

Yes, let's. . .

Deuteronomy 5:22 "These are the commandments the Lord (the ten words) proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me."
He said His commandments are not difficult cf Deuteronomy 30:11-20 and Paul in turn quoted in his letter to the Romans.

But He indeed added more - because of transgressions He added sacrificial law which is the type for Christ.

So Moses lied?

Did the Word of God who spoke through Moses?

Non-responsive.

Did you read the text?

He added nothing more to the Ten Commandments of Dt 5:1-21, to which Moses was referring in Dt 5:22,

Did you not read what I wrote and understand what I was responding to?

Non-responsive.

and which were the Mosaic Covenant (Ex 34:28; Dt 4:13).

And your point is? And are the ten Words solely belong to that covenant?
Are the ten Words not the word of God which man is to live by?

The ten words are the old covenant itself (Ex 34:28; Dt 4:13), which is obsolete (Heb 8:13),
and has been replaced by the new covenant (Lk 22:20) and the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:20-21; Gal 5:6, 6:2).

Because of disobedience He gave them over to laws that are hard to keep cf Ezekiel 20:24-25
because they had not obeyed my laws but had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths, and their eyes lusted after their parents’ idols. So
I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live.

Yes, that was the curse of Dt 28:47-48, executed in 2Chr 12:1-8, when they were placed under
the laws of Shishak, king of Egypt, which were not good and through which they could not live.

That's it and nothing to do with Assyrians and Babylonians?

Do you find specific reference to the difference between serving God and serving kings of other lands (2Chr 1:8) in those cases, which would relate it back to the curse of Dt 28:47-48?

 

[Flamingspirit]

So you believe something like "thou shalt not kill" is written on your heart? How so when you didn't know what killing was until the world showed it to you?

This isn't hard people. Don't make love complicated.