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wanderer6059

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and for mocking you in anothe post

forgive me Zone
 

GodssSon

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My apologies for having to gut a bunch of this thread since the discussion of a user's prior ban got interwoven through a lot of posts.

This site's policy has always been that disciplinary action by this site has (and most likely always will be) be between CC's staff and the individual user. The fact that a certain user was at one time banned for a time frame that expired years ago is most definitely the business of that user and this site's Administration ONLY.
Please, then, put into effect that the "banned" label be made private also if you want to keep it between the user and the site's Administration "ONLY". Otherwise, it's everyone's business. Thank you, Once Fallen...aka "Idiot in Chief"...according to your own admission..
 

Elizabeth619

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A member here sent me a good study on revelation that he wrote. It's lengthy but informative. I wish I could share it but not without his permission.
 

wanderer6059

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again, another snapshot of the same images and time frames.
ancient Israel, Christian Israel, and gentiles shown in eternity, enjoying God's presence.
fulfilled, being fulfilled, not yet fulfilled.
ok but what i am asking is that you expand on what you are saying right there break down the scripture.
 

GodssSon

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A member here sent me a good study on revelation that he wrote. It's lengthy but informative. I wish I could share it but not without his permission.
Share, but give him credit. I'm sure he didn't only want it between you and him ;)
 

wanderer6059

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A member here sent me a good study on revelation that he wrote. It's lengthy but informative. I wish I could share it but not without his permission.
if you want a good study look up the mathematics of gen 1:1 lol the bible is crazy awesome.
 

Elizabeth619

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if you want a good study look up the mathematics of gen 1:1 lol the bible is crazy awesome.
There's something you need to understand. While you may think the whole topic of this thread is some type of joke there are millions of Christians that hold this belief. You may share a different view, and I respect that but this topic should be taken seriously. I have studied this for years. And to this day I'm still learning. While you find humor in discussing Revelation I find it serous. This thread was not created to "troll". It's a serious study that many would like to maturely discuss. If you can't do that then I have nothing more to say to you.
 
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wanderer6059

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There's something you need to understand. While you may think the whole topic of this thread is some type of joke there are millions of Christians that hold this belief. You may share a different view, and I respect that but this topic should be taken seriously. I have studied this for years. And to this day I'm still learning. While you find humor in discussing Revelation I find it serous. This thread was not created to "troll". It's a serious study that many would like to maturely discuss. If you can't do that then I have nothing more to say to you.
i completely agree, but if you give me a week answer with no context and no backbone or foundation, i'm going to laugh at it and not take it seriously. show me why you Believe it, what formed these beliefs? i have asked this to zone, no breakdown of what it is, so how can i take it seriously? eschatology, two Greek words meaning "last" (ἔσχατος) and "study" (-λογία). what is it that you studied.
 

wanderer6059

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There's something you need to understand. While you may think the whole topic of this thread is some type of joke there are millions of Christians that hold this belief. You may share a different view, and I respect that but this topic should be taken seriously. I have studied this for years. And to this day I'm still learning. While you find humor in discussing Revelation I find it serous. This thread was not created to "troll". It's a serious study that many would like to maturely discuss. If you can't do that then I have nothing more to say to you.
and i actually got more respect fro you than zone cause you have atleast countered me like i have asked.
 

Elizabeth619

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i completely agree, but if you give me a week answer with no context and no backbone or foundation, i'm going to laugh at it and not take it seriously. show me why you Believe it, what formed these beliefs? i have asked this to zone, no breakdown of what it is, so how can i take it seriously? eschatology, two Greek words meaning "last" (ἔσχατος) and "study" (-λογία). what is it that you studied.
You're going to laugh? Because you don't like an answer? You're still
disrespectful, arrogant and childish. I'm done with you.
 

wanderer6059

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You're going to laugh? Because you don't like an answer? You're still
disrespectful, arrogant and childish. I'm done with you.
because "zones" answers, sorry. you actually did right here

The "1000" depends on if that is an exact number or a symbol of completeness. The OT uses "thousand" often when it's obvious to the reader is not a literal 1000. Deut 7:9, 1 Chron 16:15, psalm 50:10 and so on. In deut 7:9 if 1000 generations was the literal number that would mean the last days are over 30,000 years away.
and i liked that, i even responded to you maturely

exactly, how can you prove witch one it means. btw you are referencing the word or letter aleph in the OT, its not in the NT. it has been used to mean 1000 years.

The Letter Aleph
you never responded. don't try and sound like your taking the high road when you avoid answering. its better to act immature, than to actually be immature.
 
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3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. - Rev 20

I suspect that even the release has been initiated.
The Bible says when Satan is bound for a thousand years,that there will be peace on earth for 1000 years,that people will not war with people,and animals will not eat animals,but eat plant food,and people will not be afraid of animals,and animals will not be afraid of people,and a little child can lead even the most ferocious animal,and that animal will have no desire,nor inkling,to hurt that child at all.

Israel will be the only operating government,and no Gentile government will be in operation.

Nobody will recognize any God,or spiritual figure,but the LORD,on the whole face of the planet,for the whole earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD,and in that day there shall be one LORD,and His name one.

People on the whole face of the entire earth shall only recognize the LORD,and nobody else.

That is what the Bible says concerning the 1000 years that Satan is bound to not deceive the nations.

Explain Miss Zone how that has happened in the past,if'n you can,if'n you have the knowledge.

For it has never,ever,happened in the past,but that is what will happen when Satan is bound for 1000 years,and when have wars ceased,and when has everybody only acknowledged the LORD,and no other God,or spiritual figure,on the entire face of the planet.

Satan has not been bound in the past,and it is a future event.

And another thing I would like to add.If Jesus and the saints are to rule for a thousand years,and it is a spiritual reign,that does not make sense.

Why,because Jesus has been ruling ever since he ascended to heaven,which is more than a thousand years.

How does the 1000 years reign spiritually even make sense.It does not.

It is a physical reign when God restores the kingdom on earth to Israel,and there is no operating Gentile government.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isa 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

This is what shall happen when Satan is bound for 1000 years,and Jesus rules over the earth for 1000 years.

How has this ever happened in the past.

The 1000 years reign of Christ is a future event,when the kingdom is restored to Israel,and Jesus and the saints rule over one sixth of the people that God spared at the battle of Armageddon.

The whole earth shall only recognize the LORD,and no one else,and people will not war with people,and animals will be so tame that a child can even lead a crocodile,and that animal will have no desire to hurt the child.

When has this ever happened in the past,so it is a future event.
 

Bladerunner

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then Satan's chain is too long..... the scripture tells us that Satan is bound in the bottomless pit with a chain that has a lock on it. This is in order that mankind (those nations left after Armageddon) does not have any temptation from outside sources. In otherwords, there will be no excuses like 'The Devil Made me Do it".......

Toward the end of the 1000 years, Satan is again loosed for a period of time. During this time as in the time prior to the 2nd coming, Gog and Magog rears its ugly head again.

Yes, there is still evil working on this world, the killing of innocents.. Jesus tells us that in the 1000 years, there is no death?

This is not the case nor has it been since the ascension of Christ in 32 AD.

Please explain......
 

Agricola

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The Bible says when Satan is bound for a thousand years,that there will be peace on earth for 1000 years,that people will not war with people....

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That is what the Bible says concerning the 1000 years that Satan is bound to not deceive the nations.

Explain Miss Zone how that has happened in the past,if'n you can,if'n you have the knowledge......

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Beacuse it has happened spiritually and its not something that is literal Jesus is reigning now for 1000 in heaven. Thats how these people play it. Everything is spiritual, all steams out of evil replacement theology. It has to be spiritual because they do not acknoweldge that Israel will be a nation again.

However Israel ceased to be a nation when Babylon enslaved the population and never has been in existence for over 2500 years. but they take Roman Empire as the definitive point for completion of prophecy, when clearly the nation had not been re-born. The enslavement and exile of the Jews was extended 7 times for disobeying God and remaining in Babylon. That came to an end in the 20th century and Israel became a nation in a day.
 

PennEd

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Beacuse it has happened spiritually and its not something that is literal Jesus is reigning now for 1000 in heaven. Thats how these people play it. Everything is spiritual, all steams out of evil replacement theology. It has to be spiritual because they do not acknoweldge that Israel will be a nation again.

However Israel ceased to be a nation when Babylon enslaved the population and never has been in existence for over 2500 years. but they take Roman Empire as the definitive point for completion of prophecy, when clearly the nation had not been re-born. The enslavement and exile of the Jews was extended 7 times for disobeying God and remaining in Babylon. That came to an end in the 20th century and Israel became a nation in a day.
I believe you are exactly right about these replacement theologians. This view has been one of the driving forces of anti- semitism. Even the denial of the holocaust. That's what is really at the bottom of this. They pick and choose what to allegorize. Keep an eye out. This heresy will become a daily drumbeat now.
 

Elizabeth619

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16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? 17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. 18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. Romans 6:16-18

when Christ rose from the grave Satan was defeated was he not? He "bound" Satan as in limited his power. We are no longer slaves to sin. Sin...bondage. Revelation 20 is telling us Satan cannot destroy the church. The church is the kingdom. Early Christians were under severe persecution and were being killed
left and right for not calling the emperor Lord. There has never been such a severe persecution of Christians in history as that time. The 1000 is happening now as in Christ is king and nothing can alter Gods Plan.
 

Elizabeth619

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I believe you are exactly right about these replacement theologians. This view has been one of the driving forces of anti- semitism. Even the denial of the holocaust. That's what is really at the bottom of this. They pick and choose what to allegorize. Keep an eye out. This heresy will become a daily drumbeat now.
Who's denying the holocaust?
 

PennEd

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Who's denying the holocaust?
I have dealt with some here over the holocaust before. It was one of the very few times I've been angry on cc. If it doesn't apply to you then just dismiss it.

Tell me when Jesus sat on David's throne as the angel Gabriel promised Mary?