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OH RIGHT...THE MYSTERY GRACE AGE.
Part 1: The Dispensation of Grace
by Pastor Cornelius R. Stam
Mystery or Prophecy?
We have often insisted that while the prophets “testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should follow,” they knew nothing of the present period of grace which lies between our Lord’s suffering and His kingdom glory.
“The dispensation of the grace of God,” we read in Ephesians 3, was “a mystery” only made known “by revelation” to Paul, some years after the rejected Christ had returned to heaven. In verse 5 he says that “in other ages” it was “not made known.” In verse 8 he calls it “the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God.” In Romans 16:25 he says it was “kept secret since the world began.” In Colossians 1:26 he insists again that it was “hid from ages and from generations.”
But there are still thousands of sincere believers who do not see this. They think that the prophets predicted the reign of grace as well as the reign of Christ.
Thus they lose some of the joy of that great surprise of grace which God planned for sinners “before the world began” (II Tim. 1:9), but “kept secret since the world began” (Rom. 16:25).
One of the Scriptures which troubles them most is I Peter 1:10: “Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you.” They say that this proves conclusively that the dispensation of Grace was prophesied beforehand and was no mystery at all.
But here again we must distinguish between grace in a dispensation and the dispensation of Grace.
Peter is not speaking of the reign of grace here, but of the grace that will prevail during the reign of Christ. This is clear from the 13th verse, where he exhorts his Jewish Christian brethren, “Hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
Remember that like Christ on earth, Peter was a minister of “the Circumcision” (Rom. 15:18; Gal. 2:7). His message to the believing Jews had the kingdom reign of Christ in view.
https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/part-1-the-dispensation-of-grace-mystery-or-prophecy/ - click for false doctrine
Galatians 4
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.
Romans 5:6
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly - JEWS AND GENTILES
Ephesians 1
9He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will
the summing up of all things in Christ
not all thing NOT in Christ.
da rapture.....but you got no 7 years..because you STOLE it from Jesus - in Daniel.
but okay....the church disappears in the rapture...but things are still happening.
let`s see what is happening:
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon your people and upon your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
well....see....we have a problem.
Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled 2000 years ago.
and elect Israel was sanctified.
the prophecies for her were fulfilled - both the New Covenant Promise for the believers...and the Covenant Curses and hell for the apostates.
havent you read....
.......
so whats the Millennium for (since i just took back what you stole from My Lord Jesus - Daniel 9:24)
Part 1: The Dispensation of Grace
by Pastor Cornelius R. Stam
Mystery or Prophecy?
We have often insisted that while the prophets “testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should follow,” they knew nothing of the present period of grace which lies between our Lord’s suffering and His kingdom glory.
“The dispensation of the grace of God,” we read in Ephesians 3, was “a mystery” only made known “by revelation” to Paul, some years after the rejected Christ had returned to heaven. In verse 5 he says that “in other ages” it was “not made known.” In verse 8 he calls it “the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God.” In Romans 16:25 he says it was “kept secret since the world began.” In Colossians 1:26 he insists again that it was “hid from ages and from generations.”
But there are still thousands of sincere believers who do not see this. They think that the prophets predicted the reign of grace as well as the reign of Christ.
Thus they lose some of the joy of that great surprise of grace which God planned for sinners “before the world began” (II Tim. 1:9), but “kept secret since the world began” (Rom. 16:25).
One of the Scriptures which troubles them most is I Peter 1:10: “Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you.” They say that this proves conclusively that the dispensation of Grace was prophesied beforehand and was no mystery at all.
But here again we must distinguish between grace in a dispensation and the dispensation of Grace.
Peter is not speaking of the reign of grace here, but of the grace that will prevail during the reign of Christ. This is clear from the 13th verse, where he exhorts his Jewish Christian brethren, “Hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
Remember that like Christ on earth, Peter was a minister of “the Circumcision” (Rom. 15:18; Gal. 2:7). His message to the believing Jews had the kingdom reign of Christ in view.
https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/part-1-the-dispensation-of-grace-mystery-or-prophecy/ - click for false doctrine
Galatians 4
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.
Romans 5:6
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly - JEWS AND GENTILES
Ephesians 1
9He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will
the summing up of all things in Christ
not all thing NOT in Christ.
da rapture.....but you got no 7 years..because you STOLE it from Jesus - in Daniel.
but okay....the church disappears in the rapture...but things are still happening.
let`s see what is happening:
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon your people and upon your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
well....see....we have a problem.
Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled 2000 years ago.
and elect Israel was sanctified.
the prophecies for her were fulfilled - both the New Covenant Promise for the believers...and the Covenant Curses and hell for the apostates.
havent you read....
.......
so whats the Millennium for (since i just took back what you stole from My Lord Jesus - Daniel 9:24)
uh...you just noticing....keep up.
start addressing it.
you and CUFI call for war and hatred against people Jesus died for, daily
proof abounds. address it.
but i will help you....ill get your assertion that NONE OF CHRISTS WORK was ever offered to Israel...the earthly people who just plod along sacrificing animals and stuff cuz they are OK with God....
POST.
start addressing it.
you and CUFI call for war and hatred against people Jesus died for, daily
proof abounds. address it.
but i will help you....ill get your assertion that NONE OF CHRISTS WORK was ever offered to Israel...the earthly people who just plod along sacrificing animals and stuff cuz they are OK with God....
POST.
Christian Zionism: The Heresy that Undermines Middle East Peace
Christian Zionism is the largest, most controversial and most destructive lobby within Christianity. It bears primary responsibility for perpetuating tensions in the Middle East, justifying Israel’s apartheid colonialist agenda and for undermining the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.
Christian Zionism: The Heresy that Undermines Middle East Peace
Christian Zionism is the largest, most controversial and most destructive lobby within Christianity. It bears primary responsibility for perpetuating tensions in the Middle East, justifying Israel’s apartheid colonialist agenda and for undermining the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.
Christian Zionism: The Heresy that Undermines Middle East Peace
Christian Zionists, Israel And The ‘ Second Coming’
Donald Wagner
10/09/03: (Daily Star) The term Christian Zionism is of relatively recent vintage and was rarely used prior to the early 1990s. Self-proclaimed Christian Zionist organizations such as the International Christian Embassy-Jerusalem and the US-based Bridges for Peace, both with offices in Jerusalem, have been operating for 20 years, but were under the radar of most Middle East experts and the mainstream media until after Sept. 11, 2001.
Briefly stated, Christian Zionism is a movement within Protestant fundamentalism that sees the modern state of Israel as the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and thus deserving of political, financial and religious support.
Christian Zionists work closely with the Israeli government, religious and secular Jewish Zionist organizations, and are particularly empowered during periods when the more conservative Likud Party is in control of the Knesset.
Both the secular and religious media place Christian Zionism in the Protestant evangelical movement, which claims upward of 100-125 million members in the US. However, one would more accurately categorize it as part of the fundamentalist wing of Protestant Christianity, since the evangelical movement is far larger and more diverse in its theology and historical development.
Christian Zionism grew out of a particular theological system called “premillennial dispensationalism,” which emerged during the early 19th century in England, when there was an outpouring of millennial doctrines. The preaching and writings of a renegade Irish clergyman, John Nelson Darby, and a Scotsman, Edward Irving, emphasized the literal and future fulfillment of such Biblical teachings as “the rapture,” the rise of the Antichrist, the Battle of Armageddon and the central role that a revived nation-state of Israel would play during the latter days.
- www.informationclearinghouse
Donald Wagner
10/09/03: (Daily Star) The term Christian Zionism is of relatively recent vintage and was rarely used prior to the early 1990s. Self-proclaimed Christian Zionist organizations such as the International Christian Embassy-Jerusalem and the US-based Bridges for Peace, both with offices in Jerusalem, have been operating for 20 years, but were under the radar of most Middle East experts and the mainstream media until after Sept. 11, 2001.
Briefly stated, Christian Zionism is a movement within Protestant fundamentalism that sees the modern state of Israel as the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and thus deserving of political, financial and religious support.
Christian Zionists work closely with the Israeli government, religious and secular Jewish Zionist organizations, and are particularly empowered during periods when the more conservative Likud Party is in control of the Knesset.
Both the secular and religious media place Christian Zionism in the Protestant evangelical movement, which claims upward of 100-125 million members in the US. However, one would more accurately categorize it as part of the fundamentalist wing of Protestant Christianity, since the evangelical movement is far larger and more diverse in its theology and historical development.
Christian Zionism grew out of a particular theological system called “premillennial dispensationalism,” which emerged during the early 19th century in England, when there was an outpouring of millennial doctrines. The preaching and writings of a renegade Irish clergyman, John Nelson Darby, and a Scotsman, Edward Irving, emphasized the literal and future fulfillment of such Biblical teachings as “the rapture,” the rise of the Antichrist, the Battle of Armageddon and the central role that a revived nation-state of Israel would play during the latter days.
- www.informationclearinghouse
“In fact, trying to convert Jews is a ‘waste of time,’ he said. ‘The Jewish person who has his roots in Judaism is not going to convert to Christianity. There is no form of Christian evangelism that has failed so miserably as evangelizing the Jewish people. They (already) have a faith structure.’ Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha’i, needs to believe in Jesus, he says. But not Jews. Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced by Christianity, he says.”
- “San Antonio fundamentalist battles anti-Semitism,” Houston Chronicle, April 30, 1988
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oh that is so very helpful to jews.
when they wind up in hell because ppl listened to Hagee.
but he loves his photo ops with Rabin and Sharon and Prez Bushie.
John 12
42Nevertheless many even of the rulers believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they were not confessing Him, for fear that they would be put out of the synagogue; 43for they loved the approval of men rather than the approval of God.
- “San Antonio fundamentalist battles anti-Semitism,” Houston Chronicle, April 30, 1988
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oh that is so very helpful to jews.
when they wind up in hell because ppl listened to Hagee.
but he loves his photo ops with Rabin and Sharon and Prez Bushie.
John 12
42Nevertheless many even of the rulers believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they were not confessing Him, for fear that they would be put out of the synagogue; 43for they loved the approval of men rather than the approval of God.
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To Zone , sorry, you are not thinking straight, you have such a HATRED for the Jews, it is terrible. WHY? How can you blame Isreal for "defending" it self from the Arabs militant madmen, who have promised to wipe Israel off the face of the earth? In 1981 Israel wiped out Hussain's nuke plant and and very soon, Israel will strike Iran and destroy their nuke plants. It is a "proven" fact that Iran is about to have nuke power and the bomb to blow up Israel, Europe and USA and all who stand in Iran's way to world power. USA and Europe have protected Israel for decades and now Europe is afraid of Iran, and USA has started to be friendly tp Iran, France just walked out of the talks, because USA is dealing "dirty" with Israel, "it is a bad deal" for Israel, But Israel will "go it alone" and will wipe out Iran. Some are still with Israel , but Obama is playing the Fool. Zone, why are you "blind" to the "fact" that God is working with Israel once again after 1900 yrs? BUT. On the spiritual side, "the Covenant of God's eternal Grace". which I say, is seen best in Rom.8:29-30, you seem to be with me.? YES, you are right .in the O.Cov. ,grace was dispensed but in the N. Cov. grace is clearly displayed. God has always saved by Grace thru Faith, unto Works. And you rightly condemn the Dispensationalists for missing this , and they are blinded to the "Israel of God", which you and I reconize as the Elect of the Jews ,chosen to salvation and members of the Church which God started in the garden of eden. I understand your problem and the legetamancy of it; but I see where you have gone wrong. I did the same thing in Sem. about 50 yrs, ago. I was reading the great Reformed and the disp. books and got my head messed up. I solued my proplem by just studing the Bible. But ,you have a more scholarly mind then I, and I think you can handle the task at hand ;BUT, I do not understand, why you have such a hatred of Israel? Love to all, Hoffco
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You keep lumping us all together and you have to stop doing that because it's causing you all kinds of confusion along with the distortions you already have. Give yourself some grace and stop getting all tangled up and misapplying to others what does not belong to them. You are exhibiting a weakness of the flesh that some women and some men have genetically through the old sin nature.
B
It takes conviction of the Holy Spirit to even begin to win them (the Jews) to Christ. God would have to remove these barriers associated with Rom 11:7,8 for them to adhere to the gospel and be converted. In case you and others have forgotten, let's stir you folks up a little.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.
Now go have a hot cup of coffee and ponder some more on these simply statements of truth and may you not slumber nor be dull of hearing as some of them are.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.
Now go have a hot cup of coffee and ponder some more on these simply statements of truth and may you not slumber nor be dull of hearing as some of them are.
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Paul said Jesus is a stumblingblock to the Jews, they trip up over Him. But that doesn't mean they can't believe just as easily as a Gentile. In fact, if they are steeped in the OT and simply read the gospels, many Jews become Christians. This is the testimony of millions of Messianic Jews. But Paul did say that many Jews have a veil over their eyes when it comes to Christ. While I would believe in supporting Israel as a nation, I don't believe in doing that at the expense of other people groups or nations. Spiritual priorities vastly trump political ones. One of the singular facts that U.S. Americans often don't understand is that Israel doesn't want or need our help. They take it, but they don't ask for it. They are quite self-sufficient.
It is true in both cases that Replacement theology and Christian Zionism have done damage. In the early centuries after Christ, Replacement Theology led to wholescale persecution of the Jews, we've even seen it in the last century. And Christian Zionism has seemingly led to many deaths of Palestinians, and puts political priorities over spiritual ones.
I believe we should be like Paul in Romans, he laments the fact that those who were given the oracles of God have not come to faith in Christ. The Gentiles being grafted in to the tree of God's blessing should lead to a healthy jealousy on the part of the Jews and drive them back to their God and His Son Jesus. There is still the promise that God will preserve a remnant and that "all Israel will be saved." Rom 11:26. We preach Christ and Him crucified.
It is true in both cases that Replacement theology and Christian Zionism have done damage. In the early centuries after Christ, Replacement Theology led to wholescale persecution of the Jews, we've even seen it in the last century. And Christian Zionism has seemingly led to many deaths of Palestinians, and puts political priorities over spiritual ones.
I believe we should be like Paul in Romans, he laments the fact that those who were given the oracles of God have not come to faith in Christ. The Gentiles being grafted in to the tree of God's blessing should lead to a healthy jealousy on the part of the Jews and drive them back to their God and His Son Jesus. There is still the promise that God will preserve a remnant and that "all Israel will be saved." Rom 11:26. We preach Christ and Him crucified.
To Hoffco.
you have no idea what you're talking about. but this is the easy way out of a tough problem.
use it if you want to. i don't mind taking the more difficult route.
and i don't care if you approve or not.
i don't hate anybody.
i don't hate unregenerate men.
i can have an hatred for some of the deplorable the acts of people.
don't you hate abortion (for example)?
this is proof you have no idea what you're talking about - you're operating from an uninformed, reactionary emotional position.
the fact that you now go on to discuss POLITICS is evidence you ought to keep your accusations in check.
at least keep them separate from your religious thoughts.
as mentioned above, i am within my Christian liberty to despise the ACTS of men...that includes unregenerate men who are hostile to God.
please do to try and keep this in mind.
i don't "blame" anyone for defending themselves if attacked.
please provide ireffutable, documented evidence that:
1) someone has promised to wipe Israel off the map
(i'm not interested in the continued bleating repetitions of Americans and Israelis - i want to see the "promise" made by people with the power to do it, in their own languages).
2) political grandstanding or vocal rhetoric = action.
show that someone saying something equates with being actually attacked.
if that's the case, Iran had a "right" to "defend itself" by blowing your country off the face of the earth a long time ago.
[video=youtube;o-zoPgv_nYg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg[/video]
i won't go into all the other nations the USA and/or Israel threatens regularly.
in your case, ignorance is not bliss - it's insanity and dangerous.
document your claim.
‘Iran can’t covertly produce atomic bomb’ – US intelligence chief
Published time: March 12, 2013 22:09
Edited time: March 13, 2013 03:59 Get short URL
Iran cannot produce enough highly-enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon without being found out by the international community, the US National Intelligence Director told Congress. He also countered claims Tehran had decided to build an atomic bomb.
‘Iran can’t covertly produce atomic bomb’ – US intelligence chief — RT News
Recent assessments by American spy agencies are broadly consistent with a 2007 intelligence finding that concluded that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program years earlier, according to current and former American officials. The officials said that assessment was largely reaffirmed in a 2010 National Intelligence Estimate, and that it remains the consensus view of America’s 16 intelligence agencies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/w...see-no-move-by-iran-to-build-a-bomb.html?_r=0
Mossad and CIA concur: Iran isn’t seeking nukes
Published time: March 18, 2012 14:04
Edited time: March 18, 2012 18:04
Israel’s intelligence service Mossad has acknowledged, just like their American counterparts, there is no proof Tehran is carrying out a nuclear weapons program, a source in US intelligence told the New York Times.
Mossad and CIA concur: Iran isn’t seeking nukes — RT News
so you see Hoff...i don't hate you.
but i deplore your ignorance.
what's your source for all this garbage?
how is this defense of oneself? this is genocide.
your post disgusts me.
is he?
document your claims. ALL OF THEM.
now comes the religious mixture - to seal the deal.
which is why your post disgusts me.
show me Jesus calling for anyone to wipe out anyone. show me Jesus mandating Christians calling for murder.
particulary PRE-EMPTIVE PARANOID MURDER dressed up as self-defense.
they may wipe out each other - they are unregenerate people.
you posting in favor of this makes you an agent of satan, who was a murderer from the beginning.
apparently you don't have a spiritual side.
don't write me again please.
and keep in mind...i don't hate YOU.
i hate this kind of thinking.
you have no idea what you're talking about. but this is the easy way out of a tough problem.
use it if you want to. i don't mind taking the more difficult route.
and i don't care if you approve or not.
i don't hate anybody.
i don't hate unregenerate men.
i can have an hatred for some of the deplorable the acts of people.
don't you hate abortion (for example)?
this is proof you have no idea what you're talking about - you're operating from an uninformed, reactionary emotional position.
the fact that you now go on to discuss POLITICS is evidence you ought to keep your accusations in check.
at least keep them separate from your religious thoughts.
as mentioned above, i am within my Christian liberty to despise the ACTS of men...that includes unregenerate men who are hostile to God.
please do to try and keep this in mind.
i don't "blame" anyone for defending themselves if attacked.
please provide ireffutable, documented evidence that:
1) someone has promised to wipe Israel off the map
(i'm not interested in the continued bleating repetitions of Americans and Israelis - i want to see the "promise" made by people with the power to do it, in their own languages).
2) political grandstanding or vocal rhetoric = action.
show that someone saying something equates with being actually attacked.
if that's the case, Iran had a "right" to "defend itself" by blowing your country off the face of the earth a long time ago.
[video=youtube;o-zoPgv_nYg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg[/video]
i won't go into all the other nations the USA and/or Israel threatens regularly.
in your case, ignorance is not bliss - it's insanity and dangerous.
document your claim.
‘Iran can’t covertly produce atomic bomb’ – US intelligence chief
Published time: March 12, 2013 22:09
Edited time: March 13, 2013 03:59 Get short URL
Iran cannot produce enough highly-enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon without being found out by the international community, the US National Intelligence Director told Congress. He also countered claims Tehran had decided to build an atomic bomb.
‘Iran can’t covertly produce atomic bomb’ – US intelligence chief — RT News
Recent assessments by American spy agencies are broadly consistent with a 2007 intelligence finding that concluded that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program years earlier, according to current and former American officials. The officials said that assessment was largely reaffirmed in a 2010 National Intelligence Estimate, and that it remains the consensus view of America’s 16 intelligence agencies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/w...see-no-move-by-iran-to-build-a-bomb.html?_r=0
Mossad and CIA concur: Iran isn’t seeking nukes
Published time: March 18, 2012 14:04
Edited time: March 18, 2012 18:04
Israel’s intelligence service Mossad has acknowledged, just like their American counterparts, there is no proof Tehran is carrying out a nuclear weapons program, a source in US intelligence told the New York Times.
Mossad and CIA concur: Iran isn’t seeking nukes — RT News
so you see Hoff...i don't hate you.
but i deplore your ignorance.
what's your source for all this garbage?
how is this defense of oneself? this is genocide.
your post disgusts me.
is he?
document your claims. ALL OF THEM.
now comes the religious mixture - to seal the deal.
which is why your post disgusts me.
show me Jesus calling for anyone to wipe out anyone. show me Jesus mandating Christians calling for murder.
particulary PRE-EMPTIVE PARANOID MURDER dressed up as self-defense.
they may wipe out each other - they are unregenerate people.
you posting in favor of this makes you an agent of satan, who was a murderer from the beginning.
apparently you don't have a spiritual side.
don't write me again please.
and keep in mind...i don't hate YOU.
i hate this kind of thinking.
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Well ya know what Mathew mark luke an john us all that matters to me, all the rest of the book , I really don't need to be as enthusiastic as I am about mathew mark luke and john simply because I know my history and the first book to make it to the UK was the secret book of the holy lintus which only had Mathew mark luke an john in it, that book was fought for and us brits saw the Vikings of to protect it. Oh yeah.
And as for secret passages well I'm enthustiastic about that one too, 66 books 4 books or 999.0000 trillion books don't matter to me, one day you will stop reading them, will ya remember all them words in every given situation ,,? Nope.
And as for secret passages well I'm enthustiastic about that one too, 66 books 4 books or 999.0000 trillion books don't matter to me, one day you will stop reading them, will ya remember all them words in every given situation ,,? Nope.
there's no such thing as replacement theology (except in the case of the kooky cults like British Israelism).
documentation please?
detailed and scholarly.
i like reading.
really? i assume you're referring to Da Führer?
Hitler was a Theosophist posing as a Catholic.
the nazis (a relatively small group inside Germany) were racist fanatics who persecuted everybody except those who looked exactly like themselves.
the population was brainwashed by ludicrous fake national histories and mythology...propaganda.
among other methods....you stage a false flag at the reichstag and you're off.
it can happen to any country's population.
i see it every day on the news.
and i haven't forgotten 911.
meanwhile...let's do talk about the wholesale slaughter and extermination of entire people groups in the 20th & 21st century by people who claim to be christians.
as well as the slaughter of millions of christians by people claiming to have God on their side.
i'm ready. are you?
documentation please?
detailed and scholarly.
i like reading.
really? i assume you're referring to Da Führer?
Hitler was a Theosophist posing as a Catholic.
the nazis (a relatively small group inside Germany) were racist fanatics who persecuted everybody except those who looked exactly like themselves.
the population was brainwashed by ludicrous fake national histories and mythology...propaganda.
among other methods....you stage a false flag at the reichstag and you're off.
it can happen to any country's population.
i see it every day on the news.
and i haven't forgotten 911.
meanwhile...let's do talk about the wholesale slaughter and extermination of entire people groups in the 20th & 21st century by people who claim to be christians.
as well as the slaughter of millions of christians by people claiming to have God on their side.
i'm ready. are you?
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I don't know if this is written for or against the dispensation of grace/age of grace. But let's look at 1 Peter 1:12 - a jewel in the midst of 1:10 & 1:13 - Unto whom it was revealed that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Spirit sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. It wasn't revealed unto them - but unto us (the apostles) - the gospel that was ministered and preached to us by the apostles
Yep - for believing Jew and Gentile alike
Galatians 3:22-26 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed - shut up - (to shut up on all sides, shut up completely, i.e. hidden) until it was revealed -(to disclose what before was unknown) 24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. (now revealed) For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. There you have the mystery which was held with a view towards an administration to be given at the time appointed that all things - things in heaven and things on the earth - "all things and beings into a combined state of fellowship in Christ, the universal bond" (Thayer). When the fulness of times had come the mystery was revealed - all one in Christ - where there is neither Jew nor Greek. there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. . . .this was only available when the fulness of times had come and God sent forth his Son and in the fulness of times this dispensation was made known when and where all who believe are in unity in Christ -
[/QUOTE]da rapture.....but you got no 7 years..because you STOLE it from Jesus - in Daniel.
but okay....the church disappears in the rapture...but things are still happening.
let`s see what is happening:
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon your people and upon your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
well....see....we have a problem.
Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled 2000 years ago.
and elect Israel was sanctified.
the prophecies for her were fulfilled - both the New Covenant Promise for the believers...and the Covenant Curses and hell for the apostates.
havent you read....
.......
so whats the Millennium for (since i just took back what you stole from My Lord Jesus - Daniel 9:24)[/QUOTE]
The Millennium will basically show the true depravity of man because while living in peace and prosperity with Christ on the throne ruling; there will still be those that refuse to believe.
Yep - for believing Jew and Gentile alike
Galatians 3:22-26 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed - shut up - (to shut up on all sides, shut up completely, i.e. hidden) until it was revealed -(to disclose what before was unknown) 24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. (now revealed) For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. There you have the mystery which was held with a view towards an administration to be given at the time appointed that all things - things in heaven and things on the earth - "all things and beings into a combined state of fellowship in Christ, the universal bond" (Thayer). When the fulness of times had come the mystery was revealed - all one in Christ - where there is neither Jew nor Greek. there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. . . .this was only available when the fulness of times had come and God sent forth his Son and in the fulness of times this dispensation was made known when and where all who believe are in unity in Christ -
[/QUOTE]da rapture.....but you got no 7 years..because you STOLE it from Jesus - in Daniel.
but okay....the church disappears in the rapture...but things are still happening.
let`s see what is happening:
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon your people and upon your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
well....see....we have a problem.
Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled 2000 years ago.
and elect Israel was sanctified.
the prophecies for her were fulfilled - both the New Covenant Promise for the believers...and the Covenant Curses and hell for the apostates.
havent you read....
.......
so whats the Millennium for (since i just took back what you stole from My Lord Jesus - Daniel 9:24)[/QUOTE]
The Millennium will basically show the true depravity of man because while living in peace and prosperity with Christ on the throne ruling; there will still be those that refuse to believe.
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nice words thankyou for reminding me as its so easy to get side tracked, especialy when people are side tracking and distorting the word of god to suits there needs in debate.
sorry for my enthusium here hope you can see it , what im trying to say is the word of god is truth, the first rule of a christian knight to protect the week , i hope you can see that quoting on single thrases and sentences is like reading a verse in the bible and thinking you know it all, as a matter of fact people including me have slipped up there befor , mut not no more,
read the whole quote and quote me on the quote, im fed up with confrontation here and the debating the truth, the fact is in todays world we have free will human kindness and love, and i know where that came from. end off for me,
be blessed and have blessed day all may the lord prtect you and keep you, may all your christmases be white and may you all be beautiful and nice
sorry for my enthusium here hope you can see it , what im trying to say is the word of god is truth, the first rule of a christian knight to protect the week , i hope you can see that quoting on single thrases and sentences is like reading a verse in the bible and thinking you know it all, as a matter of fact people including me have slipped up there befor , mut not no more,
read the whole quote and quote me on the quote, im fed up with confrontation here and the debating the truth, the fact is in todays world we have free will human kindness and love, and i know where that came from. end off for me,
be blessed and have blessed day all may the lord prtect you and keep you, may all your christmases be white and may you all be beautiful and nice
B
Don't you pray that the people of Israel (the Jews) would be saved and for that to happen wouldn't God have to remove those barriers that He himself put in place and give them the light of salvation through the conviction of the Spirit to move them along unto that once and for all sacrifice? Just because they have been blinded does not mean that they can not be saved. We were blinded and walking in darkness as Gentiles until the light of the glorious gospel shined unto us. If you disagree, where is your gospel and who can be saved by it? God has concluded all in unbelief that he might have mercy on all. Do we agree on this or will you continue to lie against the truth and quote others falsely. Unclefester still believes in your deceitful practices, why don't you cyber him a nice piece of peach pie. After all he is a 'peachy' kind of guy that offers lots of lip service with no substance. Pray for Israel and the Jews and intercede on their behalf so that they may see and hear. They need the faith of the Son of God and to be turned unto God's righteousness. When Christ comes they will see him as he is and he will turn them from their unrighteousness through the mercy of God. That will be a great day to see the Lord God be faithful to what he has promised those who he has chosen as his elect. YHWH will do this and it will be witnessed by those in heaven and those on the earth. Praise God and lift your hands for the Lord is good to his people.