What Laws are still valid to christians

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Welshman

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Outlawed? Daniel? Are you kidding? I have a different view of the temple bt that's another topic , but am astounded to find that Daniel is outlawed, the word of god is not bound and I will have to research what you say to verify that as fact friend I intend to do just that ...
 
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Outlawed? Daniel? Are you kidding? I have a different view of the temple bt that's another topic , but am astounded to find that Daniel is outlawed, the word of god is not bound and I will have to research what you say to verify that as fact friend I intend to do just that ...
but in this day and age, you can enter this web sight, with a differnt name, just like your speculation in an other post. however the joy is knowing we all count. my spellimg is a bit rusty. and at 83 my guess is have fun. because even your dad and mum taught you to be a good person. but jesus taught us to be a wisdom person. there must be a god to save anyone . not speculatiom. the joy of the dream translators . .....................
 
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Graybeard

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but in this day and age, you can enter this web sight, with a differnt name, just like your speculation in an other post. however the joy is knowing we all count. my spellimg is a bit rusty. and at 83 my guess is have fun. because even your dad and mum taught you to be a good person. but jesus taught us to be a wisdom person. there must be a god to save anyone . not speculatiom. the joy of the dream translators . .....................
better change your profile birthdate as we were under the impression you are just a mere babe at 44 yrs old!
 
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Welshman

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I've tried to see if Daniel is indeed outlawed and can find no proof of this my friend?, maybe an Israeli person on this thread will make it clear wether or not this is fact in the meantime il keep searching?
 
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Welshman

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What speculation are you talking about my friend? In what post was that?, and concerning what?
 
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chubbena

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I've tried to see if Daniel is indeed outlawed and can find no proof of this my friend?, maybe an Israeli person on this thread will make it clear wether or not this is fact in the meantime il keep searching?
No doubt it's outlawed by one jewish witness. The torah is outlawed so the law of 2 witnesses no longer applies.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I've tried to see if Daniel is indeed outlawed and can find no proof of this my friend?, maybe an Israeli person on this thread will make it clear wether or not this is fact in the meantime il keep searching?
I do not know which sect this person was a part of.. there are quite a few sects of jewish religions. like their are Christian.
 
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Welshman

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What law of two witness is that friend
 
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Graybeard

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The Jews as far as I know have many writings but their Scripture is The Torah which is the first five books of the O/T in our Bible...and I think they have the book of Prophets?
 
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Welshman

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Who are the joy of dream translators ? I'm sorry I dnt follow your post my friend? Can you write it so as I can grasp were your coming from? Also wat website with another name? I dnt understand who that is? Is it me ? Or you talkng to someone else my friend many thanks
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Outlawed? Daniel? Are you kidding? I have a different view of the temple bt that's another topic , but am astounded to find that Daniel is outlawed, the word of god is not bound and I will have to research what you say to verify that as fact friend I intend to do just that ...
well think. Daniel said messiah would come in 69 weeks. According to Israel it did not happen. Thus how could they deem it to be scripture. when according to them, it is proven to be false. If one part is false. it must all be false.

Make sense?
 
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Welshman

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So they have the Torah yes? I know that, and only the book of prophets no other Old Testament books are valid by the Jews?, is this what your saying friend?
 
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Welshman

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That depends on your view of the 69 weeks? But il not venture there now but I will see exactly what the law is in Israel concerning Daniel I like homework . But if its true that most Old Testament books are discarded and not studied by the Jews I've gt to admit I did not know this fact? You cnt discount such a vast amount of gods word like that. But I shall await before commenting further on this issue my friend
 
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Welshman

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It did not happen to Israel because they misunderstood the 62 wks bt for fear of diverting thread il end there it will be there for another time
 
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eternally-gratefull

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That depends on your view of the 69 weeks? But il not venture there now but I will see exactly what the law is in Israel concerning Daniel I like homework . But if its true that most Old Testament books are discarded and not studied by the Jews I've gt to admit I did not know this fact? You cnt discount such a vast amount of gods word like that. But I shall await before commenting further on this issue my friend

it is always good to study, And search, Don;t take anyone's word for it, Even mine, Even paul thaught it was better when people tested his words and did not blindly follow him.
 
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Welshman

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My opinion is this and I will state clearly a couple of things John 3.16 against the verse that reads god forbid that he should ever have a son? 2nd , israels enemies have not changed since days of old just names of countries,compared to modern, false teaching, strange gods, all in israels history? Today no difference? Radical Islam is israels greatest threat and indeed ours? The abomination that makes desolate isn't a person its the building? But built on the wrong rock? Outside the court? I'm digressing I apologise bt we need to wake up to what prophecy is really about? Israels enemies surround her on all fronts and soon Israel is to be betrayed in a double bluff by her allies ? This will culminate in the return of Jesus bt not before the east and west clash in a battle of all out war, if Israel is attacked war will be regional then global real quik if israels starts any battle to self preserve again she will cause a war of which will involve the world, no way out for Israel but alas she will be saved through it bt not until she has passed through it, we are near to that point in time right now
 
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Welshman

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Seems to me that Jesus has never bn looking for men/ women with perfect doctrine or perfect know less of the law, he's bn lookin for people with the right heart, all the time, that's why amazement shall be on the faces of people when he returns, saying lord dnt you know me I recited in your church many yrs, lord I gave full sermons on the law to your flock, lord I taught all things pertaining to your word? , many others will have things to say bt as for me il simply say lord I'm a sinner there's nothing good in me except the righteousness you yourself imputed to me I tried my best to try obey you and only you knew the days of my life have mercy on me my lord and make me anew able to serve with no self will even present this will be my plea? And with thanks for being my friend as well as my lord, Jesus ?? If the righteous are barely saved and that by grace, what hope for those that despise god and his word ? Tis just ahead people wether a follower of the law or not this will avail nothing? Faith is what he be looking for and he knows his own amen
 

Apostol2013

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The Spirit and the Law agree in all points...

and you avoid verse after verse and then....nvm
The law and the spirit do agree there is no dispute the law of the spirit fullfilled the intention of the law by magnifying it that sin may be completely abolished to preppare the way to an everlasting eternity but God did not do away with the feast or the sabbath as many wish to speak against : looky :::Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith Yahweh will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO YAHWEH; and the pots in Yahweh's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith Yahweh.
Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
 

Apostol2013

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The law and the spirit do agree there is no dispute the law of the spirit fullfilled the intention of the law by magnifying it that sin may be completely abolished to preppare the way to an everlasting eternity but God did not do away with the feast or the sabbath as many wish to speak against : looky :::Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith Yahweh will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO YAHWEH; and the pots in Yahweh's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith Yahweh.
Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
this is the sabbath and the feast being enforced by ELOHIM
 
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cfultz3

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it is always good to study, And search, Don;t take anyone's word for it, Even mine, Even paul thaught it was better when people tested his words and did not blindly follow him.
But, always take my word for any matter :p