HRFTD - That is TRUTH! Christ is the end of the Law, If you are led by the Spirit you are not under the Law, He set aside the first to establish the second . . . the list goes on and on.
And when those Scriptures are brought up, they begin to redefine Biblical terms to force meanings into texts that are simply not there.
Oh well. As is their choice =o/.
-JGIG
Oh, I see. Christ ended the Law...
Rom 10:4 For Christ is the
end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
The word end here is...
G5056
τέλος
telos
tel'-os
From a primary word τέλλω tellō (to set out for a definite point or goal); properly the point aimed at as a limit, that is, (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state (termination [literally, figuratively or indefinitely], result [immediate, ultimate or prophetic], purpose); specifically an impost or levy (as paid): - + continual, custom, end (-ing), finally, uttermost. Compare G5411.
The problem is you know this is not the end as in obliteration. I know I have shown you this on another site.
But if this word really does mean end as in obliteration of something, let's see how that works out...
The word custom in verse 7 is G5056 telos...
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due;
custom to whom
custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
Funny, if we render it obliteration it just doesn't sound right...
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due;
obliteration to whom
obliteration; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
Here is another example, end is from G5056, telos...
1Pe 1:9 Receiving the
end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Would you like to render this...
1Pe 1:9 Receiving the
obliteration of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
End below is telos...
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the
end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
Just what kingdom will He deliver up to the Father after He obliterates it?
Well, at this point, it won't matter...
Jas 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the
end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
by your interpretation the Lord has been obliterated.
Now to be thorough here, there are occassions where the word telos indicates finality...
1Pe 3:8
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
Finally comes from telos. It means the conclusion here.
And here it means culmination...
1Pe 4:7 But the
end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
To correctly determine what the meaning should be, we must apply context to it just as the meaning of many English words is determined by context. So let's take a fresh look at Rom 10:4...
Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Now, the context is those who would establish their righteousness by how well they kept the Law...
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
The truth is that all sin, therefore, none are righteous by their own acts.
But what verse 4 is actually saying is that Christ is the conclusion, the target, the point of aim of the Law, not the destruction of it. If He is the destruction of the Law then these words are false...
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
and if these words are false, then this discussion is pointless. Christ lied, was not the perfect sacrifice and we are all doomed. In fact, there is no contradiction, Christ is the end result of the Law, the product of the Law. Sinless living is the end result Christ demonstrated by His perfect life, not the destruction of the Law, but what sinless living is all about.
