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Godissalvation found and posted a video to show how the dating method is a fraud, a farce, and is a lie from Satan.
What does he get but, " I've got better video games " .. Really, and your a doctor dude, you need to check yourself, I can smell your arrogance from here. I think I will just sit back for now, seems the doctor and the rest have read the Bible, and are just into profiting off the discussion.
yeah and could careless about " his book plugs " .. I'll be praying for you Doc.
What does he get but, " I've got better video games " .. Really, and your a doctor dude, you need to check yourself, I can smell your arrogance from here. I think I will just sit back for now, seems the doctor and the rest have read the Bible, and are just into profiting off the discussion.
yeah and could careless about " his book plugs " .. I'll be praying for you Doc.
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Did you watch that video at all?
They didn't "show how the dating method is a fraud, a farce, and is a lie from Satan." The film argued that the Homo erectus species migrated to North America in the last Ice Age as early as 400,000 years ago. They claimed that Mexican officials suppressed evidence of archaeological sites over 250,000 years old.
It was an OLD EARTH video.
They didn't "show how the dating method is a fraud, a farce, and is a lie from Satan." The film argued that the Homo erectus species migrated to North America in the last Ice Age as early as 400,000 years ago. They claimed that Mexican officials suppressed evidence of archaeological sites over 250,000 years old.
It was an OLD EARTH video.
Lol, I can tell you did not even watch the film, for if you had you would clearly see not one of the people in it are young earth realists, but they are all old earth theorists. Lol I had seen from your articles you are connected to Berkeley, lol one of the men in this film surnamed Carter, was also from Berkeley and in charge of a museum. If Berkeley and the US Geological Survey cannot be trusted, that is fine by me, given the fact they are mostly atheists and old earthers and revisionsits, I all ready have low trust in them. The purpose of the documentary is moreso to show the major uncertainty and arbitrariness of the modern theories and methods in dating the age of just about anything.
Lol, and no, I do not believe the finds are 10,000, 200,000, or 400,000 years old. I am also skeptical of the Bering Sea Bridge Theory though I won't relegate it to the scrapheap of theories just yet. I find that it is more plausible that Far East asians arrived by boat in accordance to their own lore, ancient maps, and robust ancient east asian ship-building technology.
Regardless of that, what make you of the fact that the radiometric dates given for various samples in the documentary are so random and widely varied? Is it because radiometric dating is unreliable?
As far as the book you posted, if you can find me a video or article on it I will read it, but I will forewarn you, I am highly skeptical of revisionists. I prefer to go straight to the classics.
Anything to do with space I am highly skeptical of. I do not believe there is life on Mars, I do not think we have even sent rovers to Mars, or for that matter ever walked on the Moon.
Lol I did get a real laugh out of the Atlantis joke cause it does indeed remind me of a friend I know that is himself an Old Earther, but with quite a different take on the old earth than probably everyone here lol. Lol, I do not believe in Atlantis, though this theory is much harder to disprove than Old Earth mythology.
Lol, and no, I do not believe the finds are 10,000, 200,000, or 400,000 years old. I am also skeptical of the Bering Sea Bridge Theory though I won't relegate it to the scrapheap of theories just yet. I find that it is more plausible that Far East asians arrived by boat in accordance to their own lore, ancient maps, and robust ancient east asian ship-building technology.
Regardless of that, what make you of the fact that the radiometric dates given for various samples in the documentary are so random and widely varied? Is it because radiometric dating is unreliable?
As far as the book you posted, if you can find me a video or article on it I will read it, but I will forewarn you, I am highly skeptical of revisionists. I prefer to go straight to the classics.
Anything to do with space I am highly skeptical of. I do not believe there is life on Mars, I do not think we have even sent rovers to Mars, or for that matter ever walked on the Moon.
Lol I did get a real laugh out of the Atlantis joke cause it does indeed remind me of a friend I know that is himself an Old Earther, but with quite a different take on the old earth than probably everyone here lol. Lol, I do not believe in Atlantis, though this theory is much harder to disprove than Old Earth mythology.
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First of all, they're not my leaders, I just agree with them on many things. Secondly, I couldn't give two figs about what the Pope believes or Pat Robertson. Both are human, both can be wrong about somethings, while right about others. Besides, Robertson is just a crotchety, old man. He doesn't seem to have much love for anyone who doesn't agree with him. If the majority of Christians don't agree with biblical creation, maybe they're the ones who need to reexamine their beliefs and understandings about the authority of the Scriptures? We all should be doing this, examining ourselves, dying to our old ways, cross-examining God's Word and living our faith out both in word and action. And finally, I care more about what Jesus said than the Pope or Pat Robertson. You should too.
Every Christian here needs to hear me out this minute or two.
Atheists always attempt to refute by their nature anything Christian. Dr. Cupps is the real scientist, the right person to listen to. Some people have a hard time recognizing the wide gulf of true knowledge no atheist is capable of holding, assuming some of them are capable of delivering some truth somewhere, some day, as after all they are human. They come into Christian chat groups to divide, to destroy, by the nature of their father the Devil. That is what God calls them. Many Christians know that. But yet, Paul warned us to mark them publicly, and avoid them. Of course that couldn't mean never be around them, else we must leave the planet. It means to make their lies known in no uncertain terms, and reject all they say. The reason for all is because Satan uses false teachers to deliver partial truths, which are of course lies. People who sponsor or identify with liars are to be avoided also, that is reject what they have to say. We can't trust anything from them because of the embedded and outright lies against God and the children of God.
Even when a trusted, hand-picked disciple seems to be telling the truth, it is necessary to be on guard. Peter spoke 'noble', fearless words concerning Jesus' destiny.
Matthew 16:21-23 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Whether it may be a Christian or unbeliever, there are times when it is best to speak against what seems like a good thing, but opposes the plan of God. Disputing the Genesis creation account, adopting evolution and making man just part of the animal kingdom, disputing the flood account of Genesis as being literal truth and of necessity covering the whole planet, together with other related facts identifies those people as ignorant due to lack of knowledge, or willingly ignorant and in spiritual danger. 2 Peter 3:1-7 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
[SUP]2 [/SUP] That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Jesus is the "last Adam", as Paul explained in and can't possibly have included offspring of a shared relative of apes. Last Adam, not a sophisticated animal, concerning the Genesis account. (1 Cor 15:35-50) The gospel relates directly to all of Genesis in order to explain sin, as written in the Bible, and even the concept of redemption in that book.
There are more reasons for some people to be more than simply unbelieving, digging themselves deeper as skeptics, to the next level as scoffers, then false teachers by sing distorted knowledge gained in those act to the denial of the blood of Jesus.
As long as I'm allowed I will keep doing this. I am very appreciative of this place, affording us the opportunity to plant gospel seed around the world. I have watched over the years that excess toleration of atheist input tends to discourage believers and those seeking the truth. The end result has been Christians stop contributing comments and financial support, then vacating formerly good-ground sites the past 30 years, leaving the sites to the enemy. I didn't do enough to prevent that many times, thinking we owe them political correctness and sweet words of encouragement. That was ignorance on my part and that of others who were very capable teammates, just like I have discovered here.
Atheists always attempt to refute by their nature anything Christian. Dr. Cupps is the real scientist, the right person to listen to. Some people have a hard time recognizing the wide gulf of true knowledge no atheist is capable of holding, assuming some of them are capable of delivering some truth somewhere, some day, as after all they are human. They come into Christian chat groups to divide, to destroy, by the nature of their father the Devil. That is what God calls them. Many Christians know that. But yet, Paul warned us to mark them publicly, and avoid them. Of course that couldn't mean never be around them, else we must leave the planet. It means to make their lies known in no uncertain terms, and reject all they say. The reason for all is because Satan uses false teachers to deliver partial truths, which are of course lies. People who sponsor or identify with liars are to be avoided also, that is reject what they have to say. We can't trust anything from them because of the embedded and outright lies against God and the children of God.
Even when a trusted, hand-picked disciple seems to be telling the truth, it is necessary to be on guard. Peter spoke 'noble', fearless words concerning Jesus' destiny.
Matthew 16:21-23 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Whether it may be a Christian or unbeliever, there are times when it is best to speak against what seems like a good thing, but opposes the plan of God. Disputing the Genesis creation account, adopting evolution and making man just part of the animal kingdom, disputing the flood account of Genesis as being literal truth and of necessity covering the whole planet, together with other related facts identifies those people as ignorant due to lack of knowledge, or willingly ignorant and in spiritual danger. 2 Peter 3:1-7 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
[SUP]2 [/SUP] That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Jesus is the "last Adam", as Paul explained in and can't possibly have included offspring of a shared relative of apes. Last Adam, not a sophisticated animal, concerning the Genesis account. (1 Cor 15:35-50) The gospel relates directly to all of Genesis in order to explain sin, as written in the Bible, and even the concept of redemption in that book.
There are more reasons for some people to be more than simply unbelieving, digging themselves deeper as skeptics, to the next level as scoffers, then false teachers by sing distorted knowledge gained in those act to the denial of the blood of Jesus.
As long as I'm allowed I will keep doing this. I am very appreciative of this place, affording us the opportunity to plant gospel seed around the world. I have watched over the years that excess toleration of atheist input tends to discourage believers and those seeking the truth. The end result has been Christians stop contributing comments and financial support, then vacating formerly good-ground sites the past 30 years, leaving the sites to the enemy. I didn't do enough to prevent that many times, thinking we owe them political correctness and sweet words of encouragement. That was ignorance on my part and that of others who were very capable teammates, just like I have discovered here.
If the old earthers believe in Atlantis and Life on Mars and the Moon Landing and such, this is not much a surprise to me personally as they all ready prove they will believe in just about anything despite their total lack of proof and even when their own unreliable methods contradict themselves.
The 20th Century is probably the time era I have researched the most. It is quite fascinating from my perspective having only lived at the end of that century. There is no denying that the 20th Century is a nightmare of a century, I am surprised you and the other elders survived it! Welcome to the 21st Century it will be much more terrible than last century, in many ways, it all ready is.
In terms of the moon landing, we won't go too far into that in this topic, but check out this;
'Moon rock' in museum is just petrified wood - Technology & science - Space | NBC News
Lol so this leaves us to conclude one of two things. Either the Moon is made out of petrified wood, or elsewise the moon landing was faked for Cold War propaganda purposes. In my opinion, I lean moreso towards the Moon Landing was faked theory.
The 20th Century is probably the time era I have researched the most. It is quite fascinating from my perspective having only lived at the end of that century. There is no denying that the 20th Century is a nightmare of a century, I am surprised you and the other elders survived it! Welcome to the 21st Century it will be much more terrible than last century, in many ways, it all ready is.
In terms of the moon landing, we won't go too far into that in this topic, but check out this;
'Moon rock' in museum is just petrified wood - Technology & science - Space | NBC News
Lol so this leaves us to conclude one of two things. Either the Moon is made out of petrified wood, or elsewise the moon landing was faked for Cold War propaganda purposes. In my opinion, I lean moreso towards the Moon Landing was faked theory.
I'm a Christian. This is just another of your rambling delusional rants.
Now that's a terrific idea, to shut up anybody who does not agree with your 6,000 year-old YEC world.
Talk about the search for affirmation rather than information.
Dr. Hurd has provided me with a whole lot more pertinent and credible information on the subjects being discussed than you, your YEC groupies, and Institution for Creation Research combined.
On a thread entitled "my study bible and evolution" a teenager questioned her newly acquired NLT study Bible because of this statement in it:
"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support."
You responded to her: "Put that study guide in a trash can."
That is pathetic, just like most of your posts.
Now that's a terrific idea, to shut up anybody who does not agree with your 6,000 year-old YEC world.
Talk about the search for affirmation rather than information.
Dr. Hurd has provided me with a whole lot more pertinent and credible information on the subjects being discussed than you, your YEC groupies, and Institution for Creation Research combined.
On a thread entitled "my study bible and evolution" a teenager questioned her newly acquired NLT study Bible because of this statement in it:
"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support."
You responded to her: "Put that study guide in a trash can."
That is pathetic, just like most of your posts.
I agree with your post wordswordsman, I like spreading the good news of Christ around the world as well, and I appreciate a well put together forum, administrators, and mods to help do it " may God bless them ". I give to charity, and when I have it to give to this forum, won't mind doing it, here and there. As maybe even the atheist here likes the platform to discuss such things, they won't mind giving as well.
Dr Hurd, thanks for being willing to comment here. I don't argue YEC. My brothers and sisters in Christ here spend far too much time proving an unprovable point. How many Scientists do you know who are also Christians? When I graduated from College (Physics), I worked with two others in my first job.