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Allan: I know there are different interpretations in this, but the bible seems to suggest that the lake of fire/ hell is temporary and that eventually those people will cease to exist. Why would eternal life be such a big deal if all are to live forever? At some point all of "hell" (sheol? I struggle to keep the terms apart) will be thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed.
But back to heaven: Whether or not we remember things from our lives on earth, I don't think it will worry us.
I currently wonder if I will still wonder about the same things, and ask God all my silly questions "How large is the universe really? Can you explain black holes to me? what did the dinosaurs really look like?"
But back to heaven: Whether or not we remember things from our lives on earth, I don't think it will worry us.
I currently wonder if I will still wonder about the same things, and ask God all my silly questions "How large is the universe really? Can you explain black holes to me? what did the dinosaurs really look like?"
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as for "eternal fire", do you see any continually burning cities? 
"As Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them in a similar manner, having given themselves over to sexually immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"
If those aren't still burning, there must be a different interpretation available somehow
Also:
Malachi 4:1,3. "For behold the day is coming burning like and oven, and all the proud, yes allude wickedly shall be as stubble. And the day that is coming shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts,that shall leave them neither root nor branch. . . You shall trample the wicked for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
Psalms 37:20, "But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away."
(here is a link: What Does the Bible Teach About Hell? )
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buuut enough about hell (we should start our own thread )
Imagine seeing this!
Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders
"As Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them in a similar manner, having given themselves over to sexually immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"
If those aren't still burning, there must be a different interpretation available somehow
Also:
Malachi 4:1,3. "For behold the day is coming burning like and oven, and all the proud, yes allude wickedly shall be as stubble. And the day that is coming shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts,that shall leave them neither root nor branch. . . You shall trample the wicked for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
Psalms 37:20, "But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away."
(here is a link: What Does the Bible Teach About Hell? )
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buuut enough about hell (we should start our own thread
)Imagine seeing this!
Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders
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The destruction that God rained down on those cities was a lethal mixture of
fire and brimstone; which Webster's defines as sulfur.
Sulfur melts at 232.36º F and boils at 832.28º F. If sulfur's temperature is
maintained in that range; it will not only set things on fire, but also produce
a very toxic vapor. Molten sulfur appears to be God's version of napalm.
Anyway I think it's best to interpret eternal fire as simply a limitless
quantity. In other words: there's no danger of God ever running out of the
stuff; so He has plenty on hand to top off the lake depicted at Rev 20:10-15.
Incidentally, according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29, there is but one
resurrection allotted per person. So then the people condemned to die in the
lake won't be coming back seeing as how they will have used up their one
resurrection in order to face justice at the Great White Throne event.
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The destruction that God rained down on those cities was a lethal mixture of
fire and brimstone; which Webster's defines as sulfur.
Sulfur melts at 232.36º F and boils at 832.28º F. If sulfur's temperature is
maintained in that range; it will not only set things on fire, but also produce
a very toxic vapor. Molten sulfur appears to be God's version of napalm.
Anyway I think it's best to interpret eternal fire as simply a limitless
quantity. In other words: there's no danger of God ever running out of the
stuff; so He has plenty on hand to top off the lake depicted at Rev 20:10-15.
Incidentally, according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29, there is but one
resurrection allotted per person. So then the people condemned to die in the
lake won't be coming back seeing as how they will have used up their one
resurrection in order to face justice at the Great White Throne event.
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Your joy, should you make the cut, will be even greater by knowing what
might have been your fate instead.
†. Isa 66:22-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to
another, all mankind will come and bow down before me; says the Lord. And
they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against
me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be
loathsome to all mankind.
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Your joy, should you make the cut, will be even greater by knowing what
might have been your fate instead.
†. Isa 66:22-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to
another, all mankind will come and bow down before me; says the Lord. And
they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against
me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be
loathsome to all mankind.
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S
Heaven has always been to me...a patch of trees that I could sing to God songs I wrote daily.
Jesus will smile at me in Heaven for He will invite mevto this big Golden Church to sing my songs for Him
I wont go Jesus
I shall say in Heaven
Jesus would say why?
I shall say
"Jesus...Your Golden Church is for hearts better than me upon earth. I am fine with my patch of forest"
Jesus will then say
My girl...it is NOT the walk of a man that makes him with me
But the walk with Me
That makes Me with him
Lol just a guess I had what Jesus would say
Jesus will smile at me in Heaven for He will invite mevto this big Golden Church to sing my songs for Him
I wont go Jesus
I shall say in Heaven
Jesus would say why?
I shall say
"Jesus...Your Golden Church is for hearts better than me upon earth. I am fine with my patch of forest"
Jesus will then say
My girl...it is NOT the walk of a man that makes him with me
But the walk with Me
That makes Me with him
Lol just a guess I had what Jesus would say
as for "eternal fire", do you see any continually burning cities?
"As Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them in a similar manner, having given themselves over to sexually immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"
If those aren't still burning, there must be a different interpretation available somehow
Also:
Malachi 4:1,3. "For behold the day is coming burning like and oven, and all the proud, yes allude wickedly shall be as stubble. And the day that is coming shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts,that shall leave them neither root nor branch. . . You shall trample the wicked for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
Psalms 37:20, "But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away."
(here is a link: What Does the Bible Teach About Hell? )
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buuut enough about hell (we should start our own thread )
Imagine seeing this!
Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders
"As Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them in a similar manner, having given themselves over to sexually immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"
If those aren't still burning, there must be a different interpretation available somehow
Also:
Malachi 4:1,3. "For behold the day is coming burning like and oven, and all the proud, yes allude wickedly shall be as stubble. And the day that is coming shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts,that shall leave them neither root nor branch. . . You shall trample the wicked for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
Psalms 37:20, "But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away."
(here is a link: What Does the Bible Teach About Hell? )
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buuut enough about hell (we should start our own thread
)Imagine seeing this!
Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders
although today I experienced five minutes of heaven. See today I was holding the little ceasers sign for work like I always do but today was so hot and humid that I overheated and became very dizzy and was having a very hard time breathing and plus my legs almost kept giving out from weariness when work ended I was very dizzy extremely hot and could barely walk without falling, so out of concern they put me in the freezer storage.
The second I entered my body lost all strength and I had never felt so wonderful, I was so very happy to be in the freezing cold and I thought to myself if there is a heaven on earth this is it.
The second I entered my body lost all strength and I had never felt so wonderful, I was so very happy to be in the freezing cold and I thought to myself if there is a heaven on earth this is it.
Allan..., I sort of understand where you are coming from. I have wondered how we could not be reminded that we had parents, children, etc. when we get there. I can only theorize that since God created our minds, then He could easily remove memories if he felt the need. If we didn't have any memories of our unbelieving friends or relatives at all and then we were told that they wouldn't try to believe or live right, I don't think it would impact us much. Also there would be so many other super nice people to be around that we might not have much time to think about them.