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I struggle to imagine heaven. I get very easily bored, so I imagine singing songs for all eternity as boring.
I wonder if the rooms Jesus went to prepare are literal rooms /homes.
Like I said in another thread, I hope for a shack by a lake/ stream
I wonder if the rooms Jesus went to prepare are literal rooms /homes.
Like I said in another thread, I hope for a shack by a lake/ stream
If you think heaven will be boring, you need to get the book "Heaven" by Randy Alcorn.
Heaven (Alcorn, Randy) - Kindle edition by Randy Alcorn. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
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I see where your going yeah. Just in my human mind I cannot begin to imagine enjoying bliss is any sense when I know that at the same time my loves ones are suffering eternal agony.
I'd like to think I don't experience those feelings, but how much of me would have to be taken away to lose those emotions?
I'd like to think I don't experience those feelings, but how much of me would have to be taken away to lose those emotions?
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So if it was one of your children in eternal agony, you think you'd still he happy to enjoy your time in heaven?
"Yes, I agree.. My child deserves to suffer agony for eternity".
Can you ever see yourself making those comments?
I'm saying 'you' because im replying to you, but its more of an open question lol
"Yes, I agree.. My child deserves to suffer agony for eternity".
Can you ever see yourself making those comments?
I'm saying 'you' because im replying to you, but its more of an open question lol
From my sinful, human perspective? No, of course not.
But again, we still see through that dark glass and don't have a full understanding of God's holiness and justice. We actually have a rather low opinion of both.
Now, what I mean by that is, we humans have a tendency to equate God with our own opinions and emotions. We attempt to bring Him down to "our level."
Yet God has told us that His ways and His thoughts are far above our own.
Now, if my son committed a brutal murder and was sentenced to death by the State, I could accept that punishment as appropriate.
It would pain me to no end - but his own death would be just. One physical life for one physical life.
As far as hell goes, when we sin against an eternal God, we have incurred an eternal debt, deserving of an eternal punishment. It's not so much the sin itself, it's who we sin against.
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I agree , a child receiving punishment might be just such as death penalty or life imprisonment and of course it would upset us greatly every day.
It would also upset us greatly to learn that our children are suffering for eternity. So something would have to change within us to shut that emotion off. Understanding something does not make it less upsetting.
It would also upset us greatly to learn that our children are suffering for eternity. So something would have to change within us to shut that emotion off. Understanding something does not make it less upsetting.
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Well if the bible tells me its there and its a good place, then that's enough for me to believe its better than Earth. Many people think of heaven of not a religious place but a place of comfort, happiness and a place of peace and tranquillity. There own place sort of thing. We can safely say that Sin will not be there, as sin or evil will not inherit heaven.
Another thing you can think about, is that Heaven is God's dwelling place, Psalms 33:13 " From heaven the LORD looks down and sees all mankind " So with that in mind heaven is got to be a place of goodness.
Paradise is another word for heaven, like Jesus said to the thief in Luke 23:43 " Jesus answered him, I tell you the truth , today you will be with me in paradise "
So me personally, I can think up a place were I can call heaven, however, it wont be heaven because its the heaven that God wont be there. So I know the bible don't explain, much about heaven. But its far better place to be than any heavenly place we can all think about. And plus? God is there, and that's were I want to be and with.
Another thing you can think about, is that Heaven is God's dwelling place, Psalms 33:13 " From heaven the LORD looks down and sees all mankind " So with that in mind heaven is got to be a place of goodness.
Paradise is another word for heaven, like Jesus said to the thief in Luke 23:43 " Jesus answered him, I tell you the truth , today you will be with me in paradise "
So me personally, I can think up a place were I can call heaven, however, it wont be heaven because its the heaven that God wont be there. So I know the bible don't explain, much about heaven. But its far better place to be than any heavenly place we can all think about. And plus? God is there, and that's were I want to be and with.
Actually, I believe it does.
Hypothetically: if the Police called you and said your brother had been hit by a train and killed. By all appearances, it was a suicide.
That would truly be upsetting!
But, let's say, a person comes forward and says he witnessed what happened. It turns out your brother died pushing a child out of the way of the oncoming train. He sacrificed his life to save another.
Would not that added knowledge comfort you?
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Of course. Naturally we would still be sad they they are no longer with us.
These circumstances are a little different though from knowing that your child is suffering agony for eternity.
I'm not questioning God's will or anything at all, and like you said we will reach a greater understanding when in heaven. The point I'm getting at is, something has to change within us to be able to live eternally and in total happiness whilst still having the knowledge that your child is suffering terribly at the same time.
I'm really struggling with that. And its something I have to confront because I know where my parents are going, and I know there's a chance my future children could end up there too.
These circumstances are a little different though from knowing that your child is suffering agony for eternity.
I'm not questioning God's will or anything at all, and like you said we will reach a greater understanding when in heaven. The point I'm getting at is, something has to change within us to be able to live eternally and in total happiness whilst still having the knowledge that your child is suffering terribly at the same time.
I'm really struggling with that. And its something I have to confront because I know where my parents are going, and I know there's a chance my future children could end up there too.