When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?

[Inquistor]

I think folks want to believe in 72 hours in so much so to even change the high day sabbath to Thursday. which was never the case a high day sabbath fell in the same sabbath as any other sabbath was.

Let's not forget that the scriptures say, "there are 12 hours in a day!" Where do the scriptures say there are UP TO ONE hours in a day, including a few MINUTES?

 

[Inquistor]

Hopefully, the link below will post okay. Click on it and look for names of days of the week!


https://www.alltheinternet.com/texis/open/search?q=high+sabbath+Thursday&ref=12152017144354&p=


Read the FIRST resulting link to it's end, and find Thursday mentioned!

 

[IamWhoIam]

Let's not forget that the scriptures say, "there are 12 hours in a day!" Where do the scriptures say there are UP TO ONE hours in a day, including a few MINUTES?

And let's not forget that is part of a teaching Jesus was trying to get his deciples to understand when the death of Lazarus happened yet they couldn't get it, so He just came out and said it Lazarus is dead. Yet I hear many of folks who like to pull that from that teaching to try and teach a 72 hour resurrection from that account of Jesus mentioning a 12 hour day. did Jesus say and as well there is 12 hours of night?

 

[Magenta]

I think folks want to believe in 72 hours in so much so to even change the high day sabbath to Thursday. which was never the case a high day sabbath fell in the same sabbath as any other sabbath was.

The seven festivals/feast days do not necessarily occur on the weekly seventh-day Sabbath.

The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that Sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. John 19:31​

 

[Inquistor]

And let's not forget that is part of a teaching Jesus was trying to get his deciples to understand when the death of Lazarus happened yet they couldn't get it, so He just came out and said it Lazarus is dead. Yet I hear many of folks who like to pull that from that teaching to try and teach a 72 hour resurrection from that account of Jesus mentioning a 12 hour day. did Jesus say and as well there is 12 hours of night?

Do you think that the rotation of the earth has significantly changed it's speed in the last roughly 2,000 years? We know from observation, that (according to rounded figures), it takes 24 hours for the earth to rotate one turn on it's own axis. If there are 12 hours in a day, how much time would be available for the duration of the night? 24-12=12!

 

[IamWhoIam]

The seven festivals/feast days do not necessarily occur on the weekly seventh-day Sabbath.

The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that Sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. John 19:31​

the modern Roman based calandar of days of weeks can not be used to figure out the Hebrew calander of sabbaths it is frutile to even try. not to be rude but that nice looking photo of what day the resurrection happened is basically useless IMO

the Roman based modern calander doesn't line up with what really was the day nor does the modern day Hebrew calander. all these calanders have made so many changes to it because of leap years etc.. Yes even the Hebrew calander has to make adjustments, the Hebrew calander which isn't very accurate it's listed as being the 5th most accurate calander in use

 

[IamWhoIam]

Do you think that the rotation of the earth has significantly changed it's speed in the last roughly 2,000 years? We know from observation, that (according to rounded figures), it takes 24 hours for the earth to rotate one turn on it's own axis. If there are 12 hours in a day, how much time would be available for the duration of the night? 24-12=12!

I ask if Jesus mentioned 12 hours in a night, and you come up with the rotation of earth.

 

[Inquistor]

I ask if Jesus mentioned 12 hours in a night, and you come up with the rotation of earth.

If I have a gallon of water in a bucket, and I take out HALF of it, how much is left in the bucket?

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Ooooh! How many DAYS, and how many NIGHTS? That scripture above is actually an active HYPERLINK!

 

[IamWhoIam]

If I have a gallon of water in a bucket, and I take out HALF of it, how much is left in the bucket?

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Ooooh! How many DAYS, and how many NIGHTS? That scripture above is actually an active HYPERLINK!

If a Man dies in the middle of a day, do I write on his tomb stone, died on (12 - 15 1/2 - 2017)

or maybe 12-15-2017 and 13 hours.

 

[IamWhoIam]

Jesus died on the cross at the 9th hour, who here can tell me at what hour the bibles says Jesus has risen from the dead?

 

[IamWhoIam]

Jesus died at the ninth hour that is at 3pm, there is 3 hours left in that day after Jesus died on the cross. Are those three hours null because Jesus wasn't dead for a full 24 hours in that day,

a new day starts at sundown 6pm, 6pm to 9pm is the first watch of the night and so on up to sunrise 6am, the hours are used until 6pm again a new start of a day, then the four watches of the night.

Fourth watch of the night, a interesting time frame.

 

[Inquistor]

Jesus died at the ninth hour that is at 3pm, there is 3 hours left in that day after Jesus died on the cross. Are those three hours null because Jesus wasn't dead for a full 24 hours in that day,

a new day starts at sundown 6pm, 6pm to 9pm is the first watch of the night and so on up to sunrise 6am, the hours are used until 6pm again a new start of a day, then the four watches of the night.

Fourth watch of the night, a interesting time frame.

Were those watches "wind-up", "self-winding", battery-powered, solar-powered, or some of each?

 

[IamWhoIam]

Were those watches "wind-up", "self-winding", battery-powered, solar-powered, or some of each?

Winded up like a storm on a lake, play all you want for remarks like that shows what you think of the watches in a night written in scripture. It's a joke to you.

 

[Hizikyah]

The timeline is able to be found in Scripture for those who study it beyond a superficial level.

It is clear Yahshua/Jeus had already resurrected befire Sunday in every Gospel account:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 28:1-6, "”But late in the sabbath, as it was dawning into day one of the week, Miryam from Maḡdala and the other Miryam came to see the tomb. And see, there was a great earthquake, for a messenger of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]came down out of heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. And his appearance was like lightning, and his garments as white as snow. And the guards trembled for fear of him, and became like dead men. And the messenger responding, said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]who was impaled. He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Master lay.”[/FONT]



“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He is not here, for He was raised”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:1-6, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us?” And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him.”[/FONT]



“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He was raised – He is not here”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:1-3, “But on day one of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. And having entered, they did not find the body of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]they did not find the body of the Master [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע”[/FONT][/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the stone had been removed from the tomb”

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]for a complete Scriptual breakdown see the first 3 posts in this thread, it is proven without a doubt.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
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[JaumeJ]

Why not Google the time system by Jews at the time of Christ. While you are doing that come back with the exact date He was crucified on the Hebrew lunar and the present solar calendars so this too will be settled once and for all.

Some of these systems of time have been so distorted by man, some out of jealousy, some out of just plain hatred for people sand God, that any particular interpretation would be dubious.

Just a thought........God bless you.

Let's not forget that the scriptures say, "there are 12 hours in a day!" Where do the scriptures say there are UP TO ONE hours in a day, including a few MINUTES?

 

[beta]

We don't need Google....we have God !
what can man tell you that GOD does not know...and inform us of ?

 

[JaumeJ]

Just as God purposely left out some of th egenalogies so that the Hebrews could not accurately give us the day 1 of creation on their calendar, there are certain other things our Father has left up to faith.

I know Christ, Yeshua, was crucified and died for my sins, and for the sins of all who believe Him, but I will never claim to know the date on any calendar be it solar or lunar as to the actual cricifixion. Faith replaces the desire to know.

When God tells any man, me too, that specific date, I will then know, however until then I have faith that all God has given me to know is true. I know by the Holy Spirit.

Now, stop trying to make it a challenge to me personally because all that truly matters is Jesus Christ crucified for our sins.

It is the same with the date of His birth, no man knows.....not a one.

 

[Hizikyah]

Just as God purposely left out some of th egenalogies so that the Hebrews could not accurately give us the day 1 of creation on their calendar, there are certain other things our Father has left up to faith.

I know Christ, Yeshua, was crucified and died for my sins, and for the sins of all who believe Him, but I will never claim to know the date on any calendar be it solar or lunar as to the actual cricifixion. Faith replaces the desire to know.

When God tells any man, me too, that specific date, I will then know, however until then I have faith that all God has given me to know is true. I know by the Holy Spirit.

Now, stop trying to make it a challenge to me personally because all that truly matters is Jesus Christ crucified for our sins.

It is the same with the date of His birth, no man knows.....not a one.

I just want to say; I don't claim to know the exact date as that can not be shown in Scripture but the day of the week i.e. when He was put in the grave and when He resurrected can be found in Scripture if all the verses are taken into consideration.

 

[JaumeJ]

Perhaps this will make it clear.

We all know the last supper was what today is called a seder, or the celebration meal at Passover.

We know Jesus Christ is the lamb of God, the Passover Lamb (Es pesach.)

Today mahy call this Holy Week, Easter, but it is actually celebrating the Passover of God of all of our sins because of His very own Lamb, His Only Son's sacrifice on the cross.

Since that time when a lunar calendar was the measure of days, months and years, man has changed us to a solar calendar causing the Passover celebration and what is called Easter week to very greatly from each other on any given calendar instead of being the same time every year.

This is but the beginning of the changing of times and seasons.......it will continue unti our Lord, Yeshua returns for each of us.

Until then I am content to believe Jesus Christ, Yeshua, as the Son of God Who takes away our sin.

 

[JaumeJ]

HHello.....does it say the sixth day? I do not recall it, but if it does fine.

I just want to say; I don't claim to know the exact date as that can not be shown in Scripture but the day of the week i.e. when He was put in the grave and when He resurrected can be found in Scripture if all the verses are taken into consideration.