When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?

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JaumeJ

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It is written it was the eve of the Sabbath, but which Sabbath since it was passover? Was it a special Sabbath, because I really do not know this. There is the Sabbath of Passover, my dquestion is could that have been the case on a day other than the sevent? I have been told it could be, but frankly, not knowing about time measure etc. I have to be given the information with some kind of explanation.,

Otherwise, I am content believing Yeshua is the Son of Yah Who has saved me by His personal Sacrifice.
 

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Perhaps this will make it clear.

We all know the last supper was what today is called a seder, or the celebration meal at Passover.

We know Jesus Christ is the lamb of God, the Passover Lamb (Es pesach.)

Today mahy call this Holy Week, Easter, but it is actually celebrating the Passover of God of all of our sins because of His very own Lamb, His Only Son's sacrifice on the cross.

Since that time when a lunar calendar was the measure of days, months and years, man has changed us to a solar calendar causing the Passover celebration and what is called Easter week to very greatly from each other on any given calendar instead of being the same time every year.

This is but the beginning of the changing of times and seasons.......it will continue unti our Lord, Yeshua returns for each of us.

Until then I am content to believe Jesus Christ, Yeshua, as the Son of God Who takes away our sin.
The most important thing is that we understand and accept Yahshua/Jesus as our Messiah I agree, I do think it important but not ass vital to understand the intracicies also, but mainly if false doctrines are born from misunderstanding,. I want to say I have much love for you in Messiah brother J, but i do disagree on these points:

I believe YHWH's calendar can still be understood an followed if only Scripture is taken into consideration to consideration.

I agree He is our Passover but I dont beleive the breaking of bread and wine was another Passover, this has been discuee\\ssed in this thread here:

"When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. And he said to them, I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God."

After they ate the Passover, they then went to the garden of Gethsemane which is where Judas lead the armed men who arrested Jesus.

The following is the entire event:

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Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.”

"Where do you want us to prepare for it?” they asked.

He replied, “As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters, and say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ He will show you a large room upstairs, all furnished. Make preparations there.”

They left and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover.

When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.”

Faulty translatiuon has created a misunderstanding;

1. the word "day" is supplied, and is not in the Greek text.

2. The greek word "protos" is used as first as in before and as first

Matthew 26:17
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On the first* day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"


“first” is word #G4413. prótos

Strong's Concordance
prótos: first, chief
Original Word: πρῶτος, η, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prótos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro'-tos)
Short Definition: first, before
Definition: first, before, principal, most important.



John 1:15 Adj-NMS
GRK: γέγονεν ὅτι πρῶτός μου ἦν
NAS: than I, for He existed before me.'

KJV: for he was before me.

INT: has for before me he was

The Passover was not until the following day, this is fact;


John 13:1, “And before the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.” TS 2009


John 13:1, “Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.” ESV

If you think that the common translation is correct you have a bigger problem in there is a glaring contradiction, unless one properly translaters "protos" as "before" rather than "first" and adding the word "day" to the greek text

All the Scriptres have to be taken into consideration and the Konie Greek original as opposed to traditional translation.
Again how was it already the Passover and it was the preperation for the Passover when He was being Sacrificed?

John 19:14-18, “Now it was the day of Preparation of the Passover. It was about the sixth hour. He said to the Jews, “Behold your King! They cried out, “Away with him, away with him, crucify him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar. So he delivered him over to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus, and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called The Place of a Skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha. There they crucified him, and with him two others, one on either side, and Jesus between them.” ESV


This is why some intellectualtypes think the Bible is not trustworthy, not because it contradicts but because faulty translation it seems to contradict.
 
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Why not Google the time system by Jews at the time of Christ. While you are doing that come back with the exact date He was crucified on the Hebrew lunar and the present solar calendars so this too will be settled once and for all.

Some of these systems of time have been so distorted by man, some out of jealousy, some out of just plain hatred for people sand God, that any particular interpretation would be dubious.

Just a thought........God bless you.

First of all, I would NOT trust "politically correct" Google for accurate or reliable information that had any reference to early Christian history. Secondly, the exact date(s) and exact time(s) are probably irrelevant. But things that ARE relevant concerning the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ include the time DURATION that the body of Jesus was "in the heart of the earth." That is where Jews believed the souls of dead people went after the soul left (departed) the body. Some people believe that they can cram "three days and three nights" into the time span from Friday night to before sunrise on Sunday morning (the first day of the week). It cannot happen! We find (in Genesis) that a day consists of "the evening and the morning." We also find that, even Jesus expressed that there were twelve hours of daylight, referring to "days" in John 11:9. He also mentioned night (referring to dark, meaning no light). We know from modern times that it takes 24 hours for the earth to rotate exactly one full turn on its own axis. 24 hours minus 12 hours of daylight equals 12 hours of darkness. We cannot truncate (shorten) the time of either the days nor the nights because doing so would falsify the following scripture:

Matthew 12:40
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for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Since Jesus was resurrected on at the end of Saturday night, He must have spent Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night "in the heart of the earth." The days He spent there were Thursday, Friday and Saturday. No part of Sunday was involved. Jesus was therefore crucified on Wednesday, and buried before sundown before the beginning of that Sabbath (which was a high Sabbath). Technically, since a day consisted of "the evening and the morning" (Gen 1:5 et al), Wednesday evening was actually considered to be the first half of Thursday.
 

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the modern Roman based calandar of days of weeks can not be used to figure out the Hebrew calander of sabbaths it is frutile to even try. not to be rude but that nice looking photo of what day the resurrection happened is basically useless IMO

the Roman based modern calander doesn't line up with what really was the day nor does the modern day Hebrew calander. all these calanders have made so many changes to it because of leap years etc.. Yes even the Hebrew calander has to make adjustments, the Hebrew calander which isn't very accurate it's listed as being the 5th most accurate calander in use
Regardless, it cannot be said that the holy days (such as Passover) always fell on a Sabbath. They did not. They were a Sabbath unto themselves, aside from the weekly Sabbath.
 

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I do not believe we are in disagreement anywehre. I believe Yeshua is the Passover Lamb and there is but one Passover. He is and always was the Passover.

As for the accuracy of the Hebrew calendar. There is a lw, certain yu already know, that we are not to add nor take away from the Word. Keep this in mind as a reference.

According to the product of study, I have learned Hebrew scholars calculated the time according to the Word, specifically the genealogies furnished in Genesis.

According to this, with some of the actual times and days of life of some of the entries not included, the scholars, according to law, refused to estimate any of the missing genealogies in order to obey God. Now this year is 5778 according to these ancient calculations which purposely leave out the missing years because they did not have them.

I believe Yahweh. We are in a creation that was created just under 7,000 years ago. Also, because I believe Yahweh, I cannot prove any og this, I believe the thousand eyars of peace is a Sabbath to look forward to.

The Year 6000 marks the beginning of the millennium, and with the above information we know it could come at any time, of course the tribulation of all time must come first, and since most believe it to be seven years, we have a t least those seven yet before the seventh thousand years.

Do you believe the creation is this age? I do.


The most important thing is that we understand and accept Yahshua/Jesus as our Messiah I agree, I do think it important but not ass vital to understand the intracicies also, but mainly if false doctrines are born from misunderstanding,. I want to say I have much love for you in Messiah brother J, but i do disagree on these points:

I believe YHWH's calendar can still be understood an followed if only Scripture is taken into consideration to consideration.

I agree He is our Passover but I dont beleive the breaking of bread and wine was another Passover, this has been discuee\\ssed in this thread here:
 

JaumeJ

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Crucified on the sixth day, and entered before sunset so as not to break the Sabbath was He.

Sixth Day, Seventh day (one day and one night), first day (two days and two nights), and finall the thesecond day, (three days and three nights.) According to this, Yeshua rose on a Monday if the Sabbath mentioned is a regular Sabbath.

It is prophesied He would be in the ground three days and three nights..........those are the full three and three above.

One Passover, the same as in Egypt the first tiem.......iMitzraim..
 

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I just want to say; I don't claim to know the exact date as that can not be shown in Scripture but the day of the week i.e. when He was put in the grave and when He resurrected can be found in Scripture if all the verses are taken into consideration.
Exactly...we don't need exact days or dates...we have been shown certain events that happened within a 3 day/3 night period as well as JESUS/YASHUA's very own words to establish time....why do we need more information from imperfect men ?
I just don't understand people who claim they KNOW God yet can't add up what has already been given.
Jesus said there are 12 hours in a day or night.
HE would be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights.
Early sunday morning while still dark He was already risen ! meaning earlier !
How much earlier ?
He was buried before sunset and since He was already risen sunday morning His resurrection had to be before sabbath sunset...as per scripture and Jesus own prediction of Mat 12v40....also all the certain events that happened during that time and speak for themselves.
There are people who claim to know God and speak for Him but in their heart/secretely they support a false jesus ! deception runs indeed deep.
 

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I do not believe we are in disagreement anywehre. I believe Yeshua is the Passover Lamb and there is but one Passover. He is and always was the Passover.

As for the accuracy of the Hebrew calendar. There is a lw, certain yu already know, that we are not to add nor take away from the Word. Keep this in mind as a reference.

According to the product of study, I have learned Hebrew scholars calculated the time according to the Word, specifically the genealogies furnished in Genesis.

According to this, with some of the actual times and days of life of some of the entries not included, the scholars, according to law, refused to estimate any of the missing genealogies in order to obey God. Now this year is 5778 according to these ancient calculations which purposely leave out the missing years because they did not have them.

I believe Yahweh. We are in a creation that was created just under 7,000 years ago. Also, because I believe Yahweh, I cannot prove any og this, I believe the thousand eyars of peace is a Sabbath to look forward to.

The Year 6000 marks the beginning of the millennium, and with the above information we know it could come at any time, of course the tribulation of all time must come first, and since most believe it to be seven years, we have a t least those seven yet before the seventh thousand years.

Do you believe the creation is this age? I do.
I agree with what you say here, except one thing, according to most Jews we are in year 5778 Kissleb according to others we are in year 6017. I beleve we are in year 6017 because:

The 7,000 Year Plan of YHWH from Adam to Yahshua/Jesus was a total of 4,000 years Below is the Biblical chronology of this:

Adam to Seth 130 yrs (Genesis 5:3)
Seth to Enos 105 yrs (Genesis 5:6)
Enos to Cainan 90 yrs (Genesis 5:9)
Cainan to Mahalaleel 70 yrs (Genesis 5:12)
Mahalaleel to Jared 65 yrs (Genesis 5:15)
Jared to Enoch 162 yrs (Genesis 5:18)
Enoch to Methuselah 65 yrs (Genesis 5:21)
Methuselah to Lamech 187 yrs (Genesis 5:25)
Lamech to Noah 182 yrs (Genesis 5:28-29)
Noah to the Flood 600 yrs (Genesis 7:6)
Flood to Arphaxad 2 yrs (Genesis 11:10)
Arphaxad to Salah 35 yrs (Genesis 11:12)
Salah to Eber 30 yrs (Genesis 11:14)
Eber to Peleg 34 yrs (Genesis 11:16)
Peleg to Reu 30 yrs (Genesis 11:18)
Reu to Serug 32 yrs (Genesis 11:20)
Serug to Nahor 30 yrs (Genesis 11:22)
Nahor to Terah 29 yrs (Genesis 11:24)
Terah to Abraham 70 yrs (Genesis 11:26)

So Adam to Abraham 1948 yrs (This same genealogy is in Luke 3:34-38)

Abraham to Isaac 100 yrs (Genesis 21:5)
Isaac to Jacob 60 yrs (Genesis 25:26)
Jacob to Egypt 130 yrs (Genesis 47:28)

So Abraham to Egypt 290 yrs

From Egypt to Exodus X yrs
Jacob and his family went to Egypt
Jacob went to Egypt (Genesis 46:8,11)
Levi went to Egypt (Jacob's son) (Genesis 46:8,11)
Kohath went to Egypt (Levi's son) (Genesis 46:8,11)
Kohath had a son named Amram (Exodus 6:18)
Amram had a son named Moses (Exodus 6:20)
Moses to the Exodus 80 yrs (Exodus 7:7, Acts 7:21-23, 29-30)
From Egypt to Exodus: X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses + 80)
In Wilderness 40 yrs (Numbers 32:13,
Wilderness to death Joshua 30 yrs (Joshua 14:7,10, 24:29)
Exodus to death Joshua 70 yrs

PERIOD OF THE JUDGES
Under King Cushanrishathaim 8 yrs (Judges 3:8)
Under Othniel 40 yrs (Judges 3:10-11)
Under King Eglon 18 yrs (Judges 3:14)
Under Ehud 80 yrs (Judges 3:15,30)
Under King Jabid 20 yrs (Judges 4:1-3)
Under Deborah 40 yrs (Judges 4:4, 5:31)
Under Midianites 7 yrs (Judges 6:1)
Under Gideon 40 yrs (Judges 6:7, 8:22,28)
Under Abimelech 3 yrs (Judges 8:32-35, 9:22)
Under Tola 23 yrs (Judges 10:1-2)
Under Jair 22 yrs (Judges 10:3)
Under Ammonites 18 yrs (Judges 10:5-8)
Under Jephthah 6 yrs (Judges 12:7)
Under Ibzan 7 yrs (Judges 12:8-9)
Under Elon 10 yrs (Judges 12:11)
Under Abdon 8 yrs (Judges 12:13-14)
Under Philistines 40 yrs (Judges 13:1)
Under Samson 20 yrs (Judges 13:24, 15:20, 16:30-31)
Under Eli/Samuel 40 yrs (I Samuel 4:15,18, 7:15, 8:1,4-7,19-22, 9:1-2)

So Judges to Samuel 450 yrs (Acts 13:20)

THE KINGS OF JUDAH
Under King Saul 40 yrs (Acts 13:21)
Under King David 40 yrs (I Chron 29:26-27)
Under King Solomon 40 yrs (I Kings 11:42-43)
Under King Rehoboam 17 yrs (I Kings 14:21)
Under King Abijam 3 yrs (I Kings 14:31,15:1-2)
Under King Asa 41 yrs (I Kings 15:8-10)
Under King Jehoshaphat 25 yrs (I Kings 22:41-42,50)
Under King Jehoram 8 yrs (II Chron 21:5)
Under King Ahaziah 1 yr (II Chron 22:1-2)
Under Queen Athaliah 6 yrs (II Chron 22:10-12)
Under King Joash 40 yrs (II Chron 23:13,15, 24:1)
Under King Amaziah 29 yrs (II Chron 25:1)
Under Uzziah 52 yrs (II Chron 26:3)
Under Jotham 16 yrs (II Chron 27:1)
Under Ahaz 16 yrs (II Chron 28:1)
Under Hezekiah 29 yrs (II Chron 29:1)
Under Manasseh 55 yrs (II Chron 33:1)
Under Amon 2 yrs (II Chron 33:20-21)
Under King Josiah 31 yrs (II Chron 34:1)
Under King Jehoahaz 3 mon (II Chron 36:1-2)
Under King Jehoiakim 11 yrs (II Chron 36:3-7)
Under King Jehoiachin 3 mon (II Chron 36:9)
Under King Zedekiah 11 yrs (II Chron 36:11-21)

So the KINGS OF JUDAH 513 yrs
SUMMARY OF THE TIME FROM ADAM TO YAHSHUA
Adam to Abraham 1948 yrs
Abraham to Egypt 290 yrs
From Egypt to Moses: (X=Kohath to Amram to Moses) Let X = 63 63 yrs
Moses to the Exodus 80 yrs
Exodus to death Joshua 70 yrs
Judges to Samuel 450 yrs (Acts 13:20)
Kings of Judah 513 yrs
Babylonian Captivity 586 BCE
Adam to Yahshua 4000 yrs
Adam to Yahshua is 4000 years + 2017 years since, this puts use 6017 years since the creation of Earth. Yet how are we in the “Messianic Millennium” and Yahshua has not already returned?

Romans 11:24-25, “For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more shall these who are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I do not wish you to be ignorant of this secret, brothers, lest you should be wise in your own estimation, that hardening in part has come over Yisra’yl, until the completeness of the Gentiles has come in.”

Genesis 48:17-20, “And when Yosĕph saw that his father laid his right hand on the head of Ephrayim, it was evil in his eyes; and he took hold of his father’s hand to remove it from the head of Ephrayim to the head of Menashsheh. And Yosĕph said to his father, “Not so, my father, for this one is the first-born, put your right hand on his head.”" But his father refused and said, “I know, my son, I know. He also becomes a people, and he also is great. And yet, his younger brother is greater than he, and his seed is to become the completeness of the nations.” And he blessed them on that day, saying, “In you Yisra’ĕl shall bless, saying, ‘The Mighty One make you as Ephrayim and as Menashsheh!” Thus he put Ephrayim before Menashsheh.”
 

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It is written it was the eve of the Sabbath, but which Sabbath since it was passover? Was it a special Sabbath, because I really do not know this. There is the Sabbath of Passover, my dquestion is could that have been the case on a day other than the sevent? I have been told it could be, but frankly, not knowing about time measure etc. I have to be given the information with some kind of explanation.,

Otherwise, I am content believing Yeshua is the Son of Yah Who has saved me by His personal Sacrifice.
The regular Sabbath is always the same day of the week. A full moon is not, for it varies month to month. Passover was (and still is) determined by moon phase.
 

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6017 would put us in the Seventh Thousand years, that is interesting.
 

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I have never doubted the Sabbath of the Lord is always on the Seventh day. My reference is to the special sabbaths that are delineated in the Word.

The regular Sabbath is always the same day of the week. A full moon is not, for it varies month to month. Passover was (and still is) determined by moon phase.
 

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6017 would put us in the Seventh Thousand years, that is interesting.
As I beleive Scripture shows things are "held back": This is how I beleive we are not yet in the “Messianic Millennium” (the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day/Sabbath):

Hosheyah 6:1-3, “Come, and let us turn back to יהוה. For He has torn but He does heal us, He has stricken but He binds us up. After two days He shall revive us, on the third day He shall raise us up, so that we live before Him. So let us know, let us pursue to know יהוה. His going forth is as certain as the morning. And He comes to us like the rain, like the latter rain watering the earth.”

Rev 20:4-6, "And I saw thrones – and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them – and the lives of those who had been beheaded because of the witness they bore to יהושע and because of the Word of Ylohim, and who did not worship the beast, nor his image, and did not receive his mark upon their foreheads or upon their hands. And they lived and reigned with Messiah for a thousand years and the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended) – this is the first resurrection. Blessed and set-apart is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death possesses no authority over these, but they shall be priests of YHWH and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years."

Why has Yahshua not already returned?

Romans 11:24-25, “For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more shall these who are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I do not wish you to be ignorant of this secret, brothers, lest you should be wise in your own estimation, that hardening in part has come over Yisra’yl, until the completeness of the Gentiles has come in.”

Genesis 48:17-20, “And when Yosĕph saw that his father laid his right hand on the head of Ephrayim, it was evil in his eyes; and he took hold of his father’s hand to remove it from the head of Ephrayim to the head of Menashsheh. And Yosĕph said to his father, “Not so, my father, for this one is the first-born, put your right hand on his head.”" But his father refused and said, “I know, my son, I know. He also becomes a people, and he also is great. And yet, his younger brother is greater than he, and his seed is to become the completeness of the nations.” And he blessed them on that day, saying, “In you Yisra’yl shall bless, saying, ‘The Mighty One make you as Ephrayim and as Menashsheh!” Thus he put Ephrayim before Menashsheh.”
 

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I have never doubted the Sabbath of the Lord is always on the Seventh day. My reference is to the special sabbaths that are delineated in the Word.
That is what I was talking about: the Passover Sabbath is on a full moon, which is not a weekly Sabbath. Though it could from time to time fall on a regular Sabbath day, Scripture makes clear the upcoming Sabbath the day after Christ's crucifixion was not a regular Sabbath.

John 19:30-31 (KJV)

[SUP]30 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

[SUP]31 [/SUP]The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that Sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
 

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An interesting aside here concerning the full moon of Passover is that it automatically negates the possibility of a solar eclipse being the cause of darkness that fell for three hours during Christ's death on the cross, since it would be a cosmological impossibility for the moon to come between the Earth and Sun when the moon is full.
 

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That is what I was talking about: the Passover Sabbath is on a full moon, which is not a weekly Sabbath. Though it could from time to time fall on a regular Sabbath day, Scripture makes clear the upcoming Sabbath the day after Christ's crucifixion was not a regular Sabbath.

John 19:30-31 (KJV)

[SUP]30 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

[SUP]31 [/SUP]The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that Sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Then I come across this:
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the Lord, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts. 3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings. 4 These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.​
The Lord then proceeds to name the Feasts that they are to observe. The first one He names is Passover. However, we have not listed it below because it is not specifically listed as a "holy convocation" as the others are and therefore treated as a Sabbath. Below are listed the Seven Annual Holy Convocations or Feasts that are also regarded as Sabbaths, regardless of what day of the week they might fall.

You tell me. It gets a bit muddled when reading words only.
 
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These are two truly important observations which all should study to know who have not already..Great posts.


That is what I was talking about: the Passover Sabbath is on a full moon, which is not a weekly Sabbath. Though it could from time to time fall on a regular Sabbath day, Scripture makes clear the upcoming Sabbath the day after Christ's crucifixion was not a regular Sabbath.

John 19:30-31 (KJV)

[SUP]30 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

[SUP]31 [/SUP]The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that Sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
An interesting aside here concerning the full moon of Passover is that it automatically negates the possibility of a solar eclipse being the cause of darkness that fell for three hours during Christ's death on the cross, since it would be a cosmological impossibility for the moon to come between the Earth and Sun when the moon is full.
 

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These are two truly important observations which all should study to know who have not already..Great posts.
Unless I am mistaken, scripture states that the Passover begins at sunset on the 14th of the first month, regardless of what phase the moon is in. If there is a scripture that states that the phase of the moon determines when the 14th day of the first month falls on, then please provide it Magenta. Thanks!

"These are the Lord’s appointed festivals, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: The Lord’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord’s Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. For seven days present a food offering to the Lord. And on the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.’ 


 

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Always felt that the Friday - Sunday timeline never quite fit but it makes sense now. Thanks!
 

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Unless I am mistaken, scripture states that the Passover begins at sunset on the 14th of the first month, regardless of what phase the moon is in. If there is a scripture that states that the phase of the moon determines when the 14th day of the first month falls on, then please provide it Magenta. Thanks!
The Jewish calendar was lunar based, not solar based. Since the Jewish months always began at the new moon, it is logical that the full moon would be on the 14th.
 

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An interesting aside here concerning the full moon of Passover is that it automatically negates the possibility of a solar eclipse being the cause of darkness that fell for three hours during Christ's death on the cross, since it would be a cosmological impossibility for the moon to come between the Earth and Sun when the moon is full.
While that is true, the three hours of darkness could have been caused by another celestial body coming between the sun and the earth (Yes, that is conjecture...). Also, no solar eclipse caused by the moon lasts 3 hours.