WHICH Bible "version" Is Authorized By God?

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SophieT

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Yes, I've done this before and confusion abounds...

Then stop doing the same thing and there is a slight possibility of your abounding confusion clearing up
 
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SophieT

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And you assume that scholars are not taught by God? What arrogance.
They contend that the translators of 1611 were perfect in what they did. Arrogance and hypocrisy at its finest.

Cultish behavior.
 
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SophieT

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And every time a product is changed to say "NEW AND IMPROVED" it is guaranteed to be of a lesser quality, lesser quantity, and greater price. But the public is so easily fooled (it seems) that the hucksters continue with their shenanigans. The Great Bible Version Hoax took Christendom by storm, and there were very few who saw through the smoke and mirrors.
And you are one of the chosen, right? Very few. So like what? 144,000?

Special revelation. The mirror bears you own likeness and not the Holy Spirit (other than the fact He is invisible)
 

presidente

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I'd challenge anyone to hold a bible study using at least 5 different translations . I did this and it was quite alarming as to the differences . Ultimately the kjv was consistent and every time those with the modern translations had to go to the greek when a 'difficult passage arose . I was not a kjv fan until this defining moment . The study is still going on ( 2 years total )
Except when the KJV misses it. One that comes to mind is translating Passover as 'Easter.'
 

notuptome

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Can you give an example?
Have you ever read a modern English version of the bible? Even the KJV has a NKJV version available.

Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit would be the simplest example I could give. Do you know why the KJV uses Holy Ghost instead of Holy Spirit?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

presidente

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Isaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
You realize Isaiah wrote that in Hebrew. You are reading a revised version of a translation released in 1611 in English. It's a translation of the words Isaiah wrote.
 

Lanolin

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yea Im not sure about the easter thing
Its obviously passover time, but the NT was in greek and written for to communicate with gentiles living in a pagan world, so they would have celebrated easter at that time... or the ENglish translators just never called it Passover?
I mean even today, christians in english say we celebrate Easter when actually we dont. I see childrens books about the crucifixtion and resurrection and they still call it 'The EASTER story' in the title.

They never title their books 'Jesus came back to life!' or 'He rose again! ' or 'The passover story version 2.0' or anything like that.
 

Dino246

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You have some "fallacy" for everything you disagree with. The example I gave hits the point. You may have missed it.
The fallacy invalidates your argument. When you point at the error of another person, and do not deal with your own, you are not making a sound argument for your actions, but rather only diverting attention. It's what politicians and celebrities do, and people tolerate it. I won't from you or from any other person on a theological issue.
 

Dino246

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Most of the Jews when Jesus was on the earth were using a Greek translation of the OT Hebrew. The Jews had lost their Hebrew language due to the over 400 years of captivity they has endured.
Psst… seventy years of captivity, not 400.
 

throughfaith

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It's not likely to happen. I have better things to do than run a study to test a KJV-only theory.
We just started a bible study . Not for anything other than to go through the bible. Small group of 5 . It just so happened that we were all reading from different translations . I started with Nkjv, two had the kjv , one niv and another Nasb . I just assumed that the Nkjv was just a 'up dated 'version of the kjv ..The differences are crazy . In context the kjv completely overshadowed the rest .
 

Dino246

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Come on ,this is like when Atheists always use the ' slavery ' argument.
Apples to oranges, and also a tu quoque fallacy. Deal with the criticism of your argument instead of trying to divert attention elsewhere.
 

Dino246

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We just started a bible study . Not for anything other than to go through the bible. Small group of 5 . It just so happened that we were all reading from different translations . I started with Nkjv, two had the kjv , one niv and another Nasb . I just assumed that the Nkjv was just a 'up dated 'version of the kjv ..The differences are crazy . In context the kjv completely overshadowed the rest .
And your conclusion is entirely subjective.
 

Lanolin

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Id just stick with KJV for english.
I dont want to be carting round 20 different bibles personally.

My Bible reading group worked cos we all read from the same Bible, or we shared one Bible.
When Ive had Bible study groups from everyone with a different version it just took forever. And most of the time was wasted looking up different versions and asking what does yours say?
what does your version say? x10
 

throughfaith

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Apples to oranges, and also a tu quoque fallacy. Deal with the criticism of your argument instead of trying to divert attention elsewhere.
Surely we can do better than the ' Easter ' fiasco?
 

Truth7t7

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Why not? And why do you trust the translators of the KJV?
King James Bible Translators

Unsaved Adulterers Kurt and Barbara Aland, and Homosexual Union Supporter (Carlo Maria Martini) who created the (Novum Testamentum Graece) That's Supports Modern Translations NIV, NASB, ESV, Etc

They Don't Amount To A Speck Of Sand On The Beach, As Compared To The Confessing "Christian Scholars" On The King James Translation, As Shown In The Link Above
 

Truth7t7

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I am saying these teachings of scripture do not support your theory that the translation of your choice is some special way God preserves his word.

The 'word of God's does not exactly equal 'the Bible' in scripture. The word of the Lord came to many prophets. Some wrote some of the prophesies down. Others did not. The preached gospel message is also the 'word of God's.

The scriptures were given in Greek, Hebrew and a little Aramaic. Most of us use translations of the scriptures.
King James Bible Translators

I Dont Use A Translation From The Corrupt (Novum Testamentum Graece)

Created By The Adulterers Kurt and Barbara Aland, and Homosexual Union Supporter (Carlo Maria Martini) known as the (Novum Testamentum Graece) (Alexandrian Text Type) That's Supports Modern Translations NIV, NASB, ESV, Etc

They Don't Amount To A Speck Of Sand On The Beach, As Compared To The Confessing "Christian Scholars" On The King James Translation, As Shown In The Link Above, Who Used The Greek Text, Used And Received By The Historical Church
 

Truth7t7

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I totally disagree with you! Translations do not influence our theology.
Your claim is false :)

A few honorable mentions on the (Evil) changes, I could post hundreds!

Below in Daniel 11:37KJV the Antichrist is identified as being in the lineage of the true Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

The NIV has (gods of his ancestors) showing a polytheistic lineage

The KJV shows a human man not desiring women, while the NIV has a man being desired by women (A Complete Change In Eschatology in Theology), hiding the true identity of the future Antichrist in the NIV (Fact)

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Daniel 11:37NIV
37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.

As seen below, the NIV hides the identity of Satan/Lucifer, and turns him into Jesus Christ, the morning star, (Evil)!

Isaiah 14:12KJV
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isaiah 14:12NIV
12 How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!

Revelation 22:16KJV
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Revelation 22:16NIV
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”