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would it surprise you to know these are the very same thoughts expressed by the 1960's generation of young people?

nothing new under the sun, i guess. :)
It does not surprise me, and I do know this, howbeit here is the difference, the children of the 1960s rebelled against what is good, whereas we must rebel against what is bad, which is what the rebels of the 1960s have put in place being corrupted. We therefore must rebel against rebellion. For sooth though, the Millenials have more affinity to the Boomers than the Xers, for just as with the Boomers so too must the Millenials rise up as activists. However unlike the Boomers whom rose up to create what they thought was a new system, especially in regards to religion. As where the activist Millenials rise up for to want a return to what they perceive to be the pure ways of the ancients, especially in regardes to religion. The other apathetic Millenials though, seeing as they care not at all, they are much akin to the Xers, willing to compromise away everything. It is no wonder the similarities and the conflict as the Millenials be either the children of the Boomers or the children of the Xers.

So, you immediately place blame elsewhere? Ever consider that's what we're talking about? You were well trained in what you're supposed to do culturally. Time to start thinking in another way.
Nay I place the blame where it belongs, showing you the evil of your generations and the faults of mine, but the greater fault is on yours, for what can mine generation do? Mine generation can only sit back and take no part in yours whilest yours destroys and corrupts everything and we be cursed to be put to death at the hands of the next generation for not stopping yours. Elsewise we rise up like unto the children of Syria and put yours to death and reap us a curse to have every man's hand against his brother.

Therefore this be my thought, that seeing your generation still hath the rulership and God has not torn it out of your hands and given it unto the even worse generation of Xers or given it to mine generation, that I shall testify against your generations and show to you what are the actual conflicts within mine generation in the hope that there still be time for your generation to turn back and redeem themselves and be amongst the greatest generations like unto your forefathers the mighty men of renown of the 1930s-1950s. And if it so be they turn not back, then it is all a testimony against yours that they had the chance, and had the power, and had the way madestraightly, but chose it not.
 
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GodIsSalvation.

According to your explanations, you are not part of the "nones" who do not attribute to any religion. Therefore, this thread that I started should not be viewed in generalities, but to understand, and contribute to our thoughts as to why so many in your generation have rejected all manner of Biblical truths, and how they were compelled to do so by the previous 2 generations.

Then thinking about the "hippie" generation that I am from, determine why they rebelled, and were subtly taught taught their philosophy of rejection. I am not (repeat NOT) of the hippie persuasion. Just the opposite. I do believe that this all started with false religious doctrines being propagated by the previous generation, picking and choosing what Biblical doctrines they would adhere to, and what Biblical truths they were determined to reject. I believe that religion's rejection of certain truths that are confirmed in the Bible has taught the next generation rejection because rejection of any truth teaches a religion that has no firm foundation. It's all or nothing.
 
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GodIsSalvation. According to your explanations, you are not part of the "nones" who do not attribute to any religion. Therefore, this thread that I started should not be viewed in generalities, but to understand, and contribute to our thoughts as to why so many in your generation have rejected all manner of Biblical truths, and how they were compelled to do so by the previous 2 generations. Then thinking about the "hippie" generation that I am from, determine why they rebelled, and were subtly taught taught their philosophy of rejection. I am not (repeat NOT) of the hippie persuasion. Just the opposite. I do believe that this all started with false religious doctrines being propagated by the previous generation, picking and choosing what Biblical doctrines they would adhere to, and what Biblical truths they were determined to reject. I believe that religion's rejection of certain truths that are confirmed in the Bible has taught the next generation rejection because rejection of any truth teaches a religion that has no firm foundation. It's all or nothing.
On the first part yea, I have a religion, but so does everyone in my generation. They might want None to do with the hypocrite churches though, but they hath religion as I have said before. Now they might be atheists, or they might agnostics, or they might be "spiritual-but-not-religious" but all that is even religion. Religion is even more resurgent in popularity with mine generation than with the Boomers and Xers whom drank the poison of secularism.

As you have written here, it is somewhat like your generation, but rather than reject religion outright, mine generation merely rejects your generation and its churches and then they either fall into the apathy mentality or they fall into fanaticism. Both of which then cause occasion for them to either be easy prey to ridiculous heresies or is a good thing and gives us zeal.
 
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On the first part yea, I have a religion, but so does everyone in my generation. They might want None to do with the hypocrite churches though, but they hath religion as I have said before. Now they might be atheists, or they might agnostics, or they might be "spiritual-but-not-religious" but all that is even religion. Religion is even more resurgent in popularity with mine generation than with the Boomers and Xers whom drank the poison of secularism.

As you have written here, it is somewhat like your generation, but rather than reject religion outright, mine generation merely rejects your generation and its churches and then they either fall into the apathy mentality or they fall into fanaticism. Both of which then cause occasion for them to either be easy prey to ridiculous heresies or is a good thing and gives us zeal.
This is a good conversation, so let me interject something that we both could very possibly agree upon. As we both know, the word of God is infallible, unlike man made religion that picks and chooses what they want to believe, and what they desire to be obsolete. There is a precise economic formula that was given to ancient Israel. In relation to our economics in the U.S., our formula has been deteriorating through the course about 70 years. This is due (in my estimation) to the fact that many religious beliefs in your past, and also mine, have rejected God's formula in-lieu of man's because of the love of money. This has nothing to do with salvation, but it has everything to do with peace and prosperity, unlike what Greece is facing today.

The question (rhetorically) then is why has religion rejected this one thing, among many things, that can be adhered to if people truly believe that God's way for a nation really works, whether in your generation, or mine? The end result is the same, isn't it?
 
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Now let me add, it is not enough just to testify against the Boomers, or Xers, or Millenials. For you must also provide for them after you have taken away.

With the Millenials to take away their apathy, you must provide something for them. Power is the best for Millenials. All Millenials, no matter their religion, understand and respect and desire power. The Millenials are very powerless compared to the other generations, and this also is why they are either very apathetic and simply give up, or they are very fanatical for religion, because it gives them power

A good way to reach the Millenials and restore your churches and get them to come back to your churches is to get and to show that powers directly from the Bible or read them the Bible instead of vain preachings.

For instance one of my friends, he is not a church goer, and he is only lightly interested in religion, now I have tried showing him videos of preachers or of doctrinal debates, and he simply goes off and plays with his phone lol. Now the other day me and him got on topic of Bible for he asked what I was reading lately, and I said I was reading 2 Samuel and spake of King David, and he of course never having read the Bible he knoweth though of Goliath and was interested in knowing the actual story of David and Goliath. So I read it thereto for him and not only did this hold his interest but he wanted to hear more of the story.
 
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This is a good conversation, so let me interject something that we both could very possibly agree upon. As we both know, the word of God is infallible, unlike man made religion that picks and chooses what they want to believe, and what they desire to be obsolete. There is a precise economic formula that was given to ancient Israel. In relation to our economics in the U.S., our formula has been deteriorating through the course about 70 years. This is due (in my estimation) to the fact that many religious beliefs in your past, and also mine, have rejected God's formula in-lieu of man's because of the love of money. This has nothing to do with salvation, but it has everything to do with peace and prosperity, unlike what Greece is facing today.

The question (rhetorically) then is why has religion rejected this one thing, among many things, that can be adhered to if people truly believe that God's way for a nation really works, whether in your generation, or mine? The end result is the same, isn't it?
It is interesting to me you bring this up. Mine mother was wroth with me yesterday for saying that money means nothing, but that love is more important. Her greatly evil rebuke was, "money provides everything for us all", which is of course a lie, for God provides everything for us, and it is even moreso a lie in her case as mine grandfather whom believed strongly in the principle that God provides, is the one that leaveth her all the money which she hoards and uses to dangle over mine mortal father's head for to insult him and call him not a man.

Aside from that though to answer your question; the nations are against God and against us. God blessed all nations through one nation, Israel, for to bring us into one kingdom not of this world. All the kingdoms of this world are worldly and against the Kingdom of heaven, and we will spread the Word to all nations for a testimony against them and then shall the end come and the world and heaven shall perish by fire.
 
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Now let me add, it is not enough just to testify against the Boomers, or Xers, or Millenials. For you must also provide for them after you have taken away.

With the Millenials to take away their apathy, you must provide something for them. Power is the best for Millenials. All Millenials, no matter their religion, understand and respect and desire power. The Millenials are very powerless compared to the other generations, and this also is why they are either very apathetic and simply give up, or they are very fanatical for religion, because it gives them power

A good way to reach the Millenials and restore your churches and get them to come back to your churches is to get and to show that powers directly from the Bible or read them the Bible instead of vain preachings.

For instance one of my friends, he is not a church goer, and he is only lightly interested in religion, now I have tried showing him videos of preachers or of doctrinal debates, and he simply goes off and plays with his phone lol. Now the other day me and him got on topic of Bible for he asked what I was reading lately, and I said I was reading 2 Samuel and spake of King David, and he of course never having read the Bible he knoweth though of Goliath and was interested in knowing the actual story of David and Goliath. So I read it thereto for him and not only did this hold his interest but he wanted to hear more of the story.
Excellent!! Power of the church has been lost through the generations because real life (as it really is) has been separated from the truth in God's righteous holy word.

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 1 Peter 4:17

A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. Proverbs 13:22

Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs. Mark 7:27b

The inheritance is more than real-estate. If the church would stop picking and choosing only certain parts of God's word, and adhere to all of it, natural blessings would confirm the truth in spiritual blessings, leading to trust, and faith in God. The church has truly failed in my estimation. So often we are ministered to that faith in God is against the commandments given to a nation such as Israel. They rejected it, and today, by a false doctrine we are doing the very same thing as Israel's Biblical history confirms. We have destroyed your generation's inheritance, and the generation before mine set the precedence. Look at the philosophy we have in the United States administration today. It angers me very much. How in the world did this man ever get elected once, let alone twice. And as you mentioned before, there really isn't any difference in the political parties. They all have the same goal behind closed doors.
 
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Excellent!! Power of the church has been lost through the generations because real life (as it really is) has been separated from the truth in God's righteous holy word.

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 1 Peter 4:17

A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. Proverbs 13:22

Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs. Mark 7:27b

The inheritance is more than real-estate. If the church would stop picking and choosing only certain parts of God's word, and adhere to all of it, natural blessings would confirm the truth in spiritual blessings, leading to trust, and faith in God. The church has truly failed in my estimation. So often we are ministered to that faith in God is against the commandments given to a nation such as Israel. They rejected it, and today, by a false doctrine we are doing the very same thing as Israel's Biblical history confirms. We have destroyed your generation's inheritance, and the generation before mine set the precedence. Look at the philosophy we have in the United States administration today. It angers me very much. How in the world did this man ever get elected once, let alone twice. And as you mentioned before, there really isn't any difference in the political parties. They all have the same goal behind closed doors.
Aye, but worry not so much over this worldly government, for look how little power they have.

Here is an example, and this one may surprise you actually. Consider the Supreme Court ruling on homosexuality, which is sexual abuse. Now the media doth cast that the Millenials support this overwhelmingly, and it is true many do support it being brainwashed by their parents generation in media and in the public education system heavily that this sort of thing is okay. However it is not as overwhelming as you might think.

In fact it is somewhat ironic, but it has sparked a big online and offline debate locally in mine area, and it is actually the so-called church-goers that support the abomination as where the non-church goers see it is both nasty and also hypocrisy. The government obviously is trying to do this to spite Christianity, but they have actually fallen into their own snare, because a lot of people that weren't particularly religious are now more interested in Christianity for the true Bible believers are the only ones holding fast and speaking out against the sexual abuse and because they perceive the government to now be hypocrites. For by the government even attempting at making sexual abuse legal, they basically have made their legal system lawless, and therefore invalid.
 
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Aye, but worry not so much over this worldly government, for look how little power they have.

Here is an example, and this one may surprise you actually. Consider the Supreme Court ruling on homosexuality, which is sexual abuse. Now the media doth cast that the Millenials support this overwhelmingly, and it is true many do support it being brainwashed by their parents generation in media and in the public education system heavily that this sort of thing is okay. However it is not as overwhelming as you might think.

In fact it is somewhat ironic, but it has sparked a big online and offline debate locally in mine area, and it is actually the so-called church-goers that support the abomination as where the non-church goers see it is both nasty and also hypocrisy. The government obviously is trying to do this to spite Christianity, but they have actually fallen into their own snare, because a lot of people that weren't particularly religious are now more interested in Christianity for the true Bible believers are the only ones holding fast and speaking out against the sexual abuse and because they perceive the government to now be hypocrites. For by the government even attempting at making sexual abuse legal, they basically have made their legal system lawless, and therefore invalid.
Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return. Jeremiah 8:5

Has Church apathy, due to false doctrines, allowed what you have said to happen in your estimation?

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 1 Thessalonians 5:21

Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life. Proverbs 4:13
 
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Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return. Jeremiah 8:5

Has Church apathy, due to false doctrines, allowed what you have said to happen in your estimation?

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 1 Thessalonians 5:21

Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life. Proverbs 4:13
It is hard to say being not a big church-goer myself, though I still do hope the best for those churches which hold fast. From some of the arguments my friend showed me (for I have not Facebook) most the church-goers that support this abomination make error in saying it is "love". This is even a common excuse you will find from non-Christians for supporting homosexuality. It of course only proves they either don't know what love is or they abhor love. For how can you claim to love someone and sexually abuse them?

The best thought I had on the way to reverse this is to teach them actual love. For consider the family. A good father doth love his son and a good son doth love his father, though they both be male they trully do love eachother and because they trully do love eachother they would not sexually abuse eachother.
 

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Even in the nones there will be some that heed God's call......as a boss once said to me you can't make generalizations because there are always the few exceptions to the rules.... There will be nones that step up and follow God as there are in each generation....
 
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It is hard to say being not a big church-goer myself, though I still do hope the best for those churches which hold fast. From some of the arguments my friend showed me (for I have not Facebook) most the church-goers that support this abomination make error in saying it is "love". This is even a common excuse you will find from non-Christians for supporting homosexuality. It of course only proves they either don't know what love is or they abhor love. For how can you claim to love someone and sexually abuse them?

The best thought I had on the way to reverse this is to teach them actual love. For consider the family. A good father doth love his son and a good son doth love his father, though they both be male they trully do love eachother and because they trully do love eachother they would not sexually abuse eachother.
How to exact the true love of God is in the following scriptures that many today reject, and then are forced into loving according to man's traditions and doctrines. Just for starters...............

Leviticus 19:11-18
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

Deuteronomy 6:1-6
1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the Lord your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]That thou mightest fear the Lord thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the Lord God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

But modern church doctrine (seems for the most part) has been taught to reject the definitions of true love, and replace it with a love supposedly taught to them by the instructions of the Holy Spirit, minus the above. I question what spirit they are really following.

And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. Deuteronomy 30:6

And circumcision is consistently labeled as only physical by the Law of Moses, when it actually was endorsed before Moses was even born. But the Spiritual circumcision was endorsed by the law God gave to Moses. That would be very confusing to a young church goer, and I would see why this falsehood could be rejected because it makes no sense concerning real salvation.

Deuteronomy 13:1-3
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
 
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Even in the nones there will be some that heed God's call......as a boss once said to me you can't make generalizations because there are always the few exceptions to the rules.... There will be nones that step up and follow God as there are in each generation....
If they find the truth. I agree, and that's why God seems to be patient with His final judgments that are very close.

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Matthew 24:34

I believe this is the generation that Jesus is talking about that witnesses all those things He prophesied in Matthew chapter 24. We all see it, including verse 29, and there is also a man made doctrine to debunk that verse. This is a serious situation that we live in. We should never separate real life (as we live it) from God's Word. as we know it, and confirm it within our hearts, and minds.
 
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If they find the truth. I agree, and that's why God seems to be patient with His final judgments that are very close.

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Matthew 24:34

I believe this is the generation that Jesus is talking about that witnesses all those things He prophesied in Matthew chapter 24. We all see it, including verse 29, and there is also a man made doctrine to debunk that verse. This is a serious situation that we live in. We should never separate real life (as we live it) from God's Word. as we know it, and confirm it within our hearts, and minds.
I agree Jesus comes back soon, but we're not the Last Generation of the prophecy. That is obvious by the fact there be another generation being begotten as we speak now. Of course though, being the second to last generation ain't that much better seeing as the children will rise up to kill their fathers. Though I think it is not this immediately next generation under mine either, they are having a rough time indeed as youths because of the iniquity of your generation and mine, but I still perceive love has not waxed totally cold in all of them. It is something to watch for though indeed, especially for my generation. Your generation might be blessed enough to go down to the grave and escape the great tribulations, but since no man knows the hour, I cannot be sure. If it happens in my lifetime it will be bad for we will not be in the strength of our youth when they happen.
 
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I agree Jesus comes back soon, but we're not the Last Generation of the prophecy. That is obvious by the fact there be another generation being begotten as we speak now. Of course though, being the second to last generation ain't that much better seeing as the children will rise up to kill their fathers. Though I think it is not this immediately next generation under mine either, they are having a rough time indeed as youths because of the iniquity of your generation and mine, but I still perceive love has not waxed totally cold in all of them. It is something to watch for though indeed, especially for my generation. Your generation might be blessed enough to go down to the grave and escape the great tribulations, but since no man knows the hour, I cannot be sure. If it happens in my lifetime it will be bad for we will not be in the strength of our youth when they happen.
What you say is feasible.
 
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Question for you GodIsSalvation, or anyone else that has thought about this possible correlation in our society.

Are the "nones" that are joining ISIS from the United States doing that because of what they feel they are compelled to reject concerning religious denominational religions in this country?
 
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Question for you GodIsSalvation, or anyone else that has thought about this possible correlation in our society.

Are the "nones" that are joining ISIS from the United States doing that because of what they feel they are compelled to reject concerning religious denominational religions in this country?
The Islamic State and how popular they are with Millenials proves the fact all the more this "None" stuff ain't true. The Islamic State is the true face of islam. The reason they join is because the Islamic State is the actual pure followers of islam by the koran. It is even proof of the hypocrisy of the elder generations, like how they say the Islamic State is not islamic, it is nonsense. Me and my friend have a joke and it is; "America says the Islamic State is neither Islamic nor a State, so therefore they will beat nothing."

Not even just with the Islamic State, but within the Middle East as a whole there is this theme. They are not so different than us at all, they have the same generation spirits, just different dynamics in their corner of the world. See the elder generations tried the secularism stuff in the Middle East. It's that shades of grey hypocrisy which is thematic of the Boomers and Xers wherein they think there is "moderate or extreme" forms of religion. Religion ain't like that at all, it's black and white, you are or you aren't. A lot of the dictators became secular (ie: Bashar al Assad, Saddam Hussein, Gaddafhi, etc.) Secularism is hypocrisy. Now I understand, the elders intended well, but intention means nothing. Instead of making it to where different people of religions could live together peacefully, the Millenials, especially in those lands look at it and easily see the hypocrisy of it, and it makes them all the more zealous, and unfortunately for over there islam is popular so that's what they get zealous for which is a very violent combination. It's the striving for purity theme again. Behold you can see it in their videos, they are quite blunt about it, it's not a secret at all.
 
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The Islamic State and how popular they are with Millenials proves the fact all the more this "None" stuff ain't true. The Islamic State is the true face of islam. The reason they join is because the Islamic State is the actual pure followers of islam by the koran. It is even proof of the hypocrisy of the elder generations, like how they say the Islamic State is not islamic, it is nonsense. Me and my friend have a joke and it is; "America says the Islamic State is neither Islamic nor a State, so therefore they will beat nothing."

Not even just with the Islamic State, but within the Middle East as a whole there is this theme. They are not so different than us at all, they have the same generation spirits, just different dynamics in their corner of the world. See the elder generations tried the secularism stuff in the Middle East. It's that shades of grey hypocrisy which is thematic of the Boomers and Xers wherein they think there is "moderate or extreme" forms of religion. Religion ain't like that at all, it's black and white, you are or you aren't. A lot of the dictators became secular (ie: Bashar al Assad, Saddam Hussein, Gaddafhi, etc.) Secularism is hypocrisy. Now I understand, the elders intended well, but intention means nothing. Instead of making it to where different people of religions could live together peacefully, the Millenials, especially in those lands look at it and easily see the hypocrisy of it, and it makes them all the more zealous, and unfortunately for over there islam is popular so that's what they get zealous for which is a very violent combination. It's the striving for purity theme again. Behold you can see it in their videos, they are quite blunt about it, it's not a secret at all.
You have explained a lot. Searching for something that is substantial and real. How sad this world has become. I can see now how some, who are true believers in Christ, don't want to call themselves Christians, simply because of not wanting to be related to what they see as hypocrisy. Again, HOW SAD!!

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Matthew 23:37
 
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You have explained a lot. Searching for something that is substantial and real. How sad this world has become. I can see now how some, who are true believers in Christ, don't want to call themselves Christians, simply because of not wanting to be related to what they see as hypocrisy. Again, HOW SAD!!

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Matthew 23:37
Well don't lose hope man, like I said it ain't too late just yet. Probably won't get most the Millenials back, but there's still a fighting chance to get back a good number of them I believe.
 
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Well don't lose hope man, like I said it ain't too late just yet. Probably won't get most the Millenials back, but there's still a fighting chance to get back a good number of them I believe.
Like you said if I remember right.... "It's all or nothing." We are saved by hope. I am looking forward to seeing you in the hereafter. We have much in common. I think that our false gods these days relate to the "thunders" in Revelation, that are not defined in scripture. It is self exaltation via modern technology. We'd rather play with a cell phone than pray and study God's holy Word. Granted, technology can be used for a good purpose, but when it draws our attention away from the truth and makes us proud because of our own achievements, it becomes a false god that is actually being worshiped.

We just took pictures of Pluto. I say in sarcasm... "big hairy deal." So what? Maybe they had the same thing before the great flood at the time of Noah. Very good possibility. The "tower of Babel" under the direction of Nimrod was built by very well educated people with enormous exposure to technology.
 
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