Who is Babylon the Great Harlot?

[Jackson123]

1. of Course Muslim worship Satan. But Antichrist is come from within. It is what apostle John said.

Actually John never said THE AntiChrist comes from within. He said AntiChrists plural come from us. John said, "It is the last hour." Last hour for who? John did not say, "in the last hour the AntiChrist will come from us." You have no other companion passage that tells us the AntiChrist or Man of Sin comes from within. In fact, all other passages make clear the Man of Sin comes from the region to the north of Israel and from a Muslim nation.

Besides, John was in Turkey when he wrote 1 John. Therefore coming from "us" could easily mean coming from the location he was at - Turkey.


A. Plural because Antichrist is not one person. But Antichrist come from within. This is what John said. John not said in the end time Antichrist not come from within. Mean it applicable from John time till the end. Hindu is worship devil, but we not call it Antichrist because not come from within.


B. You believe us mean Turkey? I don't agree. John is Christian, and he wrote to Christian. So us mean christian brother.





Please don't compare Mary to Semiramis. There is no comparison. Semiramis slept with her own son. She was the original Harlot - filthy whore. Mary was the mother of earthly Christ and a good woman. The comparison is to the Kaaba Stone. Egypt had Isis, the Babylonians had Semiramis, the Greeks had Diana. The Muslims worship an image fallen from the sky and they kiss and caress this stone like it was a woman.

You misunderstood me brother. I am not compare the real Mary to Semiramis. But catholic version Mary is Semiramis, because it is Queen of heaven, and the bible never said that.



I did not say the Vatican is holy. I said St. Peter's is holy. St. Peter's is a church where the real God is worshiped. There is sin in every church. My church preaches false doctrines but it's either go and worship or stay home as no church preaches pure doctrine anymore.


Is that mean you said Vatican is not Holy?




Again, the Pope is a type of false Christ. But he is not the AntiChrist and the Man of Sin will not be Catholic.

Daniel says the Man of Sin is the King from the North. Look at the map. What is north of Israel? Certainly not Rome. Turkey is to the north and John was in Turkey when he made those comments. Further, John wrote warning letters to the spirits of 7 churches all of whom were in Turkey and none were written to any churches in Rome.

The bottom line is that Antichrist come from within. Hindu, Muslim, Buddha is worship devil but not Antichrist.

 

[Jackson123]

SAUDI ROYALS' PROSTITUTION RINGS
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It is an open secret in Washington that the State Department is extremely sensitive to criticism of its actions regarding Saudi Arabia and its Princes. It is alleged that there are issues related to Saudi Royals which are so embarrassing to Washington that these must be kept secret from public domain.
The sensitivities of the US State Department are confirmed by the following BBC obituary on the death of King Fahd of Saudi Arabia.

BBC OBITUARY - KING FAHD - "Monday, August 1, 2005 - King Fahd (1921-2005) ascended to Saudi Throne in 1982. He had a reputation as a playboy in his youth, with allegations of excessive womanizing, drinking and gambling.
Indeed, it is claimed that he once lost more than $6m in one night at the Monte Carlo casino. There was a joke that new Cadillac made-to-order cars were dumped as soon as their ashtrays were full. King Fahd himself amassed a personal fortune estimated at $18bn".
He was known for his extravagant vacations in Spain’s Costa del Sol. The posh resort town of Marbella is where he built his magnificent palace named “Mar Mar”, and each year for a month or more he would stay there. Luxury villas and hundreds of rooms in five-star hotels would be reserved for his entourage and hundreds of millions dollars would be spent by the King and his Royals. Read more ...

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Earlier, King Saud bin Abdul Aziz (1902-1969) who ruled Saudi Arabia between 1953-64 was deposed and lived in exile in Europe for plundering oil wealth, womanizing, gambling and other vices. It is reported that he fathered a total of 115 children, from hundreds of beautiful young women. Read more

Princess Basma bint Saud bin Abdul Aziz, born on March 1st, 1965 to Jamila Mehri, a Syrian woman, is the 115th child of King Saud. The princess is a divorcee; currently living in Acton, England with 3 of her 5 Children. Read more...

It is estimated that there are 15,000 members of Saudi Royal Family whose royal spending, housing and perks are paid by Saudi State. Read more...

King Abdullah Popping Viagra at 92

Matt Cantor, Newser Staff reporter posted on September 8, 2011 a WikiLeaks release saying King Abdullah bin Abdulazia isn’t letting age slow him down.

The King is a decade older than the US thought he was. Even at 92, he hadn’t given up on romance, though he needed a little boost from Viagra. The US State Department telegram from 2008 says King Abdullah was born in 1916; at the time of the telegram, he remained a smoker and got regular hormone shots, it said.
The information in the telegram came from a Western health expert involved with the Saudi royal family, Ynet reports. The source was in Saudi Arabia to care for one of Abdullah’s wives, but in a mix-up, he got the king’s records. Before getting the telegram, the US had guessed that Abdullah’s age was between 82 and 87. But it was revealed that he was 92 years old. Read more ...

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King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz sipping wine with George Bush. Watch the following video Clip.



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Dance with teenage girls and boys.Watch the following video clip where King Abdullah or may be a high ranking Saudi Royal (we are not sure) is reportedly dancing on the street with young teenage girls who are wearing Jeans and T-Shirts; some of them are in Abaya with open hairs, faces and hands. Many boys are also dancing along with these girls. Watch this video clip.

The most disturbing thing in the video is that the girls in western outfits are using Kalima Tayyiba in their dance and putting it on their backs, which is touching and covering their bums and legs while they are dancing along with boys. The Kalima Tayyiba has Allah's (سبحانہ و تعا لی) and Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) names. This is open and blatant disrespect of Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی), Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم)and Islam in the hands of Salafis.

Also, look at the dancing steps and his spinning head of the Saudi Royal in the video. Is he under alcohol influence? May be or may be not. However, one thing looks certain that King Abdullah drinks wine, because he is shown toasting wine glass with George Bush in the following Video.
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Readers may be aware that Saudi Kings are officially addressed as 'Khadim-ul-Haramain wash Sharifain' (the Custodians of two holy mosques in Makka and Madina).
It is not just the Kings, the Saudi Royal family as a whole is famous for their lavish spending, womanizing, drinking, gambling and other vices.
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Prince Waleed bin Talal surrounded by beautiful young white women.

Prince Waleed bin Talal takes delivery of world’s first customized A-380 super jumbo dubbed as “the flying palace”, Arabian Business reported Sunday, December 16, 2012. Read more...

Prince Waleed spent $485 million for this custom Airbus, with interior amenities designed by British firm 'Design Q'.

The Plane has a concert hall that seats ten and has a baby grand piano; a boardroom with a holographic projector; and a full-size steam room. The most entertaining perk is a "Well being Room" which has a floor upon which is projected an enormous image of what the plane is flying over--thus creating a "magic carpet" effect. It has four-poster beds, a Turkish bath, storage space for a Rolls-Royce, a concert hall, five suites with king-size beds and a lift between floors on all three levels.

A lot of rich people have luxury life style, but it doesn't prove that it is Antichrist. Antichrist come from within.

 

[PlainWord]

A lot of rich people have luxury life style, but it doesn't prove that it is Antichrist. Antichrist come from within.

I didn't say the A/C will be a Saudi. I am telling you that Mystery Babylon is ISLAM and it's city is MECCA and the "Kings of the Earth" are living luxuriously with her. These kings are Saudis, from Bahrain, UAE, etc.

 

[PlainWord]

The bottom line is that Antichrist come from within. Hindu, Muslim, Buddha is worship devil but not Antichrist.

You do not have a single passage in the Bible that tells you the A/C comes from within the church. You interpret one passage from 1 John that way but that doesn't mean you are correct. That passage from 1 John says "antiChrists" come from within us. It does not say THE ANTICHRIST comes from within us. Even if John means to say that, he does not define who the "US" is. John was a Jew, John was a Christian, John was residing in Turkey. Any of those could have been what he meant.

 

[Jackson123]

I didn't say the A/C will be a Saudi. I am telling you that Mystery Babylon is ISLAM and it's city is MECCA and the "Kings of the Earth" are living luxuriously with her. These kings are Saudis, from Bahrain, UAE, etc.

The bottom line is that AC come from within.

Hindu is also have the root from the mystery Babylon, Rome, Chinese religion etc all from mystery Babylon. But they aren't not come from within. AC have 2 requirement, from Mystery Babylon and come from within

 

[PlainWord]

There is a lot of disinformation on this thread!
"Almost every war in the history of the world was fought over religious beliefs." is simply wishful thinking.

Most of the massive wars and genocides reaching millions of victims each have been about atheist ideologists, race hatred, or simply grabbing land or territory. There are too many to mention, but aside from nazi holocaust, the soviets are responsible for millions too, the chinese cultural revolution, tibet and the rest, pol pots regime in cambodia, but even less heard of conflicts like the tutsi./ hutu conflict in rwanda responsible for millions of lives, and the congo next door even worse. So very few lives have been lost in religious conflicts in comparison. It is not even true of wars. Of the several hundred wars fought in europe in the middle ages, a third or less had a religious overtone.

As for the biggest threat, ISIS is the best funded terrorist regime in history, it has by some estimates hundreds of millions in assets, and oil from a lot of syria and iraq, that buys a lot of weapons. It occupies an area bigger than britain, so I think the numbers of 10000 terrorists is way under.what is needed to control that. I am guessing they are into 6 figures Considering the soviet union black market, weapons trading and the inability to account for a lot of post war plutonium, and some level of complicity in turkey, saudi and elsewhere, ISIS are a massive threat.

And none of the nations seems to have the resolve to do anything about it. I am reminded of one of churchills speeches, "air parity lost" before the war, saying by the time they acted it had all got out of hand..


"When the situation was manageable it was neglected, and now that it is thoroughly out of hand we apply too late the remedies which then might have effected a cure.


There is nothing new in the story. It is as old as the Sibylline Books. It falls into that long, dismal catalogue of the fruitlessness of experience and the confirmed unteachability of mankind. Want of foresight, unwillingness to act when action would be simple and effective, lack of clear thinking, confusion of counsel until the emergency comes, until self-preservation strikes its jarring gong -these are the features which constitute the endless repetition of history."

To be sure, many conflicts throughout history have been ostensibly for religious reasons, with many different religions involved. For example, in Christianity, there occurred (just to name a few):

• The Crusades — A series of campaigns from the 11th to the 13th centuries with the stated goal of reconquering the Holy Land from Muslim invaders and coming to the aid of the Byzantine Empire

• The French Wars of Religion — A succession of wars in France during the 16th century between Catholics and the Protestant Huguenots

• The Thirty Years' War — Another war between Catholics and Protestants during the 17th century in what is now Germany

This list is by no means exhaustive. In addition to this, one could add the Taiping Rebellion and the Troubles in Northern Ireland. Christianity has certainly been a factor in many conflicts throughout its 2,000-year history.

In Islam, we see the concept of jihad, or “holy war.” The word jihad literally means “struggle,” but the concept has been used to describe warfare in the expansion and defense of Islamic territory. The almost continual warfare in the Middle East over the past half century certainly has contributed to the idea that religion is the cause of many wars. The September 11 attacks on the United States has been seen as a jihad against the “Great Satan” America, which in Muslim eyes is almost synonymous with Christianity. In Judaism, the wars of conquest chronicled in the OT (in particular the book of Joshua) at the command of God, conquered the Promised Land.

The point should be obvious that religion has certainly played a part in much of the warfare in human history. However, does this prove the point made by the critics of religion that religion itself is the cause of war? The answer is “yes” and “no.” “Yes” in the sense that as a secondary cause, religion, on the surface at least, has been the impetus behind much conflict. However, the answer is “no” in the sense that religion is never the primary cause of war.

To demonstrate this point, let’s look at the 20th century. By all accounts, the 20th century was one of the bloodiest centuries in human history. Two major world wars, which had nothing at all to do with religion, the Jewish Holocaust, and the Communist Revolutions in Russia, China, Southeast Asia and Cuba, have accounted for anywhere between 50-70 million deaths (some estimate upwards to 100 million). The one thing these conflicts and genocides have in common is that fact that they were ideological, not religious, in nature. We could easily make the case that more people have died throughout human history due to ideology than to religion. Communist ideology necessitates ruling over others. Nazi ideology necessitates elimination of “inferior” races. These two ideologies alone account for the death of millions, and religion had nothing to do with it. In fact, communism is by definition an atheistic ideology.

Religion and ideology are both secondary causes for war. However, the primary cause for all war is sin. Consider the following Scriptures:

“What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? You want something but don’t get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures” (James 4:1-3).

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[Jackson123]

You do not have a single passage in the Bible that tells you the A/C comes from within the church. You interpret one passage from 1 John that way but that doesn't mean you are correct. That passage from 1 John says "antiChrists" come from within us. It does not say THE ANTICHRIST comes from within us. Even if John means to say that, he does not define who the "US" is. John was a Jew, John was a Christian, John was residing in Turkey. Any of those could have been what he meant.

Beware of Antichrists
18Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.19They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.…


Brother Plainword.

So you interpret the word went out from us mean not went out form us?

 

[Jackson123]

Beware of Antichrists
18Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.19They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.…

This letter is from John to his Children/Christian not for general public in Turkey. General public in Turkey is not John Children.

If we understand the culture of the first Christian we know that this letter is for christian. So the word us here mean fellow Christian.

Went out from us /christian but not one of us. simply mean pretend to be Christian but not.

for example, pretend to be christian but in his teaching said Muslim is in the plan of salvation. It is not christian teaching. it is lie.

 

[Jackson123]

[video=youtube_share;5P2pAS05BOU]http://youtu.be/5P2pAS05BOU[/video]

 

[PlainWord]

Beware of Antichrists
18Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.19They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.…


Brother Plainword.

So you interpret the word went out from us mean not went out form us?

This is how I read this.

1) John tells us that in the last hour the AntiChrist is coming.
2) John tells us basically not to worry about him because right now in his day there are MANY AntiChrists who are living among them and are from within their circle (as in church/community/people known to them).
3) It are these multiple AntiChrists (plural) who are from "us" not the future end times ANTICHRIST. John doesn't say or imply anything about where he will come from in this passage.
4) John is saying it is the last hour now (which continue) because of the presence of these false Christs.

In other words, John is saying "Don't worry about this future big evil monster AntiChrist that will come in the last days, worry about and deal with the many AntiChrists that are among us causing strife and turmoil in the church/community." That's the point John was trying to say.

 

[PlainWord]

[video=youtube_share;5P2pAS05BOU]http://youtu.be/5P2pAS05BOU[/video]

Evil spirits are everywhere in the world corrupting in every nation. Remember that Satan deceives the Nations????

Here's what I see going down. A force of northern extremist terrorists Muslims will continue to slaughter, prosper and take over land. They will continue for 42 months and be unstoppable. After the 42 months a super natural being will appear claiming to be above everything worshiped in the world. He will stand in a "holy place" (likely Jerusalem but not necessarily) and make these statements. He will do miracles and demand to be worshiped. He will require everyone swear an allegiance to this northern terrorist group. Those that don't he will order to be killed. He will call on Muslims everywhere to kill wherever they are people who do not convert and who refuse to denounce the true God.

This is Satan's Tribulation.

 

[Jackson123]

This is how I read this.

1) John tells us that in the last hour the AntiChrist is coming.
2) John tells us basically not to worry about him because right now in his day there are MANY AntiChrists who are living among them and are from within their circle (as in church/community/people known to them).
3) It are these multiple AntiChrists (plural) who are from "us" not the future end times ANTICHRIST. John doesn't say or imply anything about where he will come from in this passage.
4) John is saying it is the last hour now (which continue) because of the presence of these false Christs.

In other words, John is saying "Don't worry about this future big evil monster AntiChrist that will come in the last days, worry about and deal with the many AntiChrists that are among us causing strife and turmoil in the church/community." That's the point John was trying to say.

where the word that said the future Antichrist not come from us?

If every pagan Antichrist than even before John there is Antichrist. Hindu is Antichrist, Buddha is Antichrist.

John said Antichrist is come from within, it doesn't said in the future will not from within.

 

[Jackson123]

Evil spirits are everywhere in the world corrupting in every nation. Remember that Satan deceives the Nations????

Here's what I see going down. A force of northern extremist terrorists Muslims will continue to slaughter, prosper and take over land. They will continue for 42 months and be unstoppable. After the 42 months a super natural being will appear claiming to be above everything worshiped in the world. He will stand in a "holy place" (likely Jerusalem but not necessarily) and make these statements. He will do miracles and demand to be worshiped. He will require everyone swear an allegiance to this northern terrorist group. Those that don't he will order to be killed. He will call on Muslims everywhere to kill wherever they are people who do not convert and who refuse to denounce the true God.

This is Satan's Tribulation.

I don't know why you come to this conclusion from this Video brother, to me this video demonstrate the Jesuit has a great power to rule the world because she have money.

If you go to Eric John Pelps Website, he explain that federal reserve is not belong to US government, it belong to 10 bank, One of them is Lechman brother, but Lechman brother is out now, So the remnant is 9 bank and all belong to Jesuit.

They print money from thin air, than loan to the US government I think it call bond than US tax payer pay the interest.

It start with federal reserve act 1913 Where there bribe the President and make vote on Christmas recess and only 3 congress men vote.

Jesuit has a money to financed ISIS or other terror organisation.

David Icke said ISIS is Globalist creation.

Alberto Rivera said Vatican create Muslim to take over Jerusalem for her but when they do, they rebel and not give it to Vatican.

Catholic believe Pope is represent Jesus/King of king. It mean he must rule all king on earth, that why Pope promote one world government.

And the bible said Jesus will reign from Jerusalem, so Pope as His representative must reign from Jerusalem. That why, they want Jerusalem.

 

[PlainWord]

where the word that said the future Antichrist not come from us?

If every pagan Antichrist than even before John there is Antichrist. Hindu is Antichrist, Buddha is Antichrist.

John said Antichrist is come from within, it doesn't said in the future will not from within.

John does NOT say that the ANTICHRIST is from within.

...even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. [SUP]19 [/SUP]They went out from us, but they were not of us...

He says that many ANTICHRISTS are from within. Your argument then is that Buddha and Hindu came from John's church? Again, John did not say ALL antichrists can from within. He said MANY come from us. If you can't read, then I'm not surprised you believe the way you do.

 

[PlainWord]

I don't know why you come to this conclusion from this Video brother, to me this video demonstrate the Jesuit has a great power to rule the world because she have money.

If you go to Eric John Pelps Website, he explain that federal reserve is not belong to US government, it belong to 10 bank, One of them is Lechman brother, but Lechman brother is out now, So the remnant is 9 bank and all belong to Jesuit.

They print money from thin air, than loan to the US government I think it call bond than US tax payer pay the interest.

It start with federal reserve act 1913 Where there bribe the President and make vote on Christmas recess and only 3 congress men vote.

Jesuit has a money to financed ISIS or other terror organisation.

David Icke said ISIS is Globalist creation.

Alberto Rivera said Vatican create Muslim to take over Jerusalem for her but when they do, they rebel and not give it to Vatican.

Catholic believe Pope is represent Jesus/King of king. It mean he must rule all king on earth, that why Pope promote one world government.

And the bible said Jesus will reign from Jerusalem, so Pope as His representative must reign from Jerusalem. That why, they want Jerusalem.

I know about all these conspiracy theories dear brother. Even if all are true, that doesn't mean the Antichrist comes from the Catholic Church. You misinterpret one passage from 1 John 2 then disregard all the other passages that tell us where he comes from. John and Daniel give the location but you refuse to acknowledge it.

You aren't going to see a bunch of Catholics running around chopping off people's heads because they won't worship the Pope. This is what Muslims do. There is no changing your mind brother. I love you but sadly your views are wrong and you can't see events unfolding exactly the way we are told they will and you can't see which spirit is responsible.

It has always been about the Muslim world vs. Jewish world. This goes all the way back to Abraham and Hagar. Abraham slept with the Egyptian (John's First Beast) Hagar and bore the child, Ishmael. God made a nation for both Ishmael and Issac. These nations have been in opposition for 4,000 years and continues to this day.

Sara wanted the bond woman and her son cast out because she feared Ishmael may wish to harm Issac. Wow, she was right.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore she said to Abraham, “Cast out this bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, namely with Isaac.”

400 years later when Children of Israel were given the Promised Land, God ordered them to kill all those who dwelt in their land. They disobeyed and have been dealing with the Muslim problem ever since.

Joshua 23:13

know for certain that the Lord your God will no longer drive out these nations from before you. But they shall be snares and traps to you, and scourges on your sides and thorns in your eyes, until you perish from this good land which the Lord your God has given you.

Judges 2:3

Therefore I also said, ‘I will not drive them out before you; but they shall be thorns in your side, and their gods shall be a snare to you.’”

Here we are 4,000 years later and the Muslims still reside next to the Jews and they are consistently battling and killing each other, both claiming the land. AND we see that their gods shall be a snare to the Jews.

There is nothing new my friend. The Catholics are not going to suddenly rise up and cause all these end times problems for the Jewish people. The Catholics are not responsible for Jacob's Trouble. It is the Muslim World, the ISLAMIC world that will take peace from the world and they are already starting. They are funded mostly by their oil, not by the RCC or World Bank.

Enjoy your theory my friend. At some point maybe you will come around.

 

[Ukorin]

I know about all these conspiracy theories dear brother. Even if all are true, that doesn't mean the Antichrist comes from the Catholic Church. You misinterpret one passage from 1 John 2 then disregard all the other passages that tell us where he comes from. John and Daniel give the location but you refuse to acknowledge it.

You aren't going to see a bunch of Catholics running around chopping off people's heads because they won't worship the Pope. This is what Muslims do. There is no changing your mind brother. I love you but sadly your views are wrong and you can't see events unfolding exactly the way we are told they will and you can't see which spirit is responsible.

It has always been about the Muslim world vs. Jewish world. This goes all the way back to Abraham and Hagar. Abraham slept with the Egyptian (John's First Beast) Hagar and bore the child, Ishmael. God made a nation for both Ishmael and Issac. These nations have been in opposition for 4,000 years and continues to this day.

Sara wanted the bond woman and her son cast out because she feared Ishmael may wish to harm Issac. Wow, she was right.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore she said to Abraham, “Cast out this bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, namely with Isaac.”

400 years later when Children of Israel were given the Promised Land, God ordered them to kill all those who dwelt in their land. They disobeyed and have been dealing with the Muslim problem ever since.

Joshua 23:13

know for certain that the Lord your God will no longer drive out these nations from before you. But they shall be snares and traps to you, and scourges on your sides and thorns in your eyes, until you perish from this good land which the Lord your God has given you.

Judges 2:3

Therefore I also said, ‘I will not drive them out before you; but they shall be thorns in your side, and their gods shall be a snare to you.’”

Here we are 4,000 years later and the Muslims still reside next to the Jews and they are consistently battling and killing each other, both claiming the land. AND we see that their gods shall be a snare to the Jews.

There is nothing new my friend. The Catholics are not going to suddenly rise up and cause all these end times problems for the Jewish people. The Catholics are not responsible for Jacob's Trouble. It is the Muslim World, the ISLAMIC world that will take peace from the world and they are already starting. They are funded mostly by their oil, not by the RCC or World Bank.

Enjoy your theory my friend. At some point maybe you will come around.

In Galatians it tells us that unbelieving Jews have the same mother as the Ishmaelites,
and similarly anyone who claims to follow God, yet is actually still under the Law, is a child of Hagar.
Perhaps the conspiracy is deeper than just Muslims.
Perhaps we really are being "played" by the media,
and the hands of the Muslims are only a tool by which a more sinister power is puppeting the bloodshed.
If am man wears gloves during a murder, it may fool investigators,
but the guilt of blood is still on their hands.

 

[Jackson123]

John does NOT say that the ANTICHRIST is from within.

...even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. [SUP]19 [/SUP]They went out from us, but they were not of us...

He says that many ANTICHRISTS are from within. Your argument then is that Buddha and Hindu came from John's church? Again, John did not say ALL antichrists can from within. He said MANY come from us. If you can't read, then I'm not surprised you believe the way you do.

You change the sentence brother.

John said now many Antichrist have come.

Then John continue they went out from us.


the word they mean Antichrists.

Mean all of them are went out from us.

 

[Jackson123]

I know about all these conspiracy theories dear brother. Even if all are true, that doesn't mean the Antichrist comes from the Catholic Church. You misinterpret one passage from 1 John 2 then disregard all the other passages that tell us where he comes from. John and Daniel give the location but you refuse to acknowledge it.

You aren't going to see a bunch of Catholics running around chopping off people's heads because they won't worship the Pope. This is what Muslims do. There is no changing your mind brother. I love you but sadly your views are wrong and you can't see events unfolding exactly the way we are told they will and you can't see which spirit is responsible.

It has always been about the Muslim world vs. Jewish world. This goes all the way back to Abraham and Hagar. Abraham slept with the Egyptian (John's First Beast) Hagar and bore the child, Ishmael. God made a nation for both Ishmael and Issac. These nations have been in opposition for 4,000 years and continues to this day.

Sara wanted the bond woman and her son cast out because she feared Ishmael may wish to harm Issac. Wow, she was right.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore she said to Abraham, “Cast out this bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, namely with Isaac.”

400 years later when Children of Israel were given the Promised Land, God ordered them to kill all those who dwelt in their land. They disobeyed and have been dealing with the Muslim problem ever since.

Joshua 23:13

know for certain that the Lord your God will no longer drive out these nations from before you. But they shall be snares and traps to you, and scourges on your sides and thorns in your eyes, until you perish from this good land which the Lord your God has given you.

Judges 2:3

Therefore I also said, ‘I will not drive them out before you; but they shall be thorns in your side, and their gods shall be a snare to you.’”

Here we are 4,000 years later and the Muslims still reside next to the Jews and they are consistently battling and killing each other, both claiming the land. AND we see that their gods shall be a snare to the Jews.

There is nothing new my friend. The Catholics are not going to suddenly rise up and cause all these end times problems for the Jewish people. The Catholics are not responsible for Jacob's Trouble. It is the Muslim World, the ISLAMIC world that will take peace from the world and they are already starting. They are funded mostly by their oil, not by the RCC or World Bank.

Enjoy your theory my friend. At some point maybe you will come around.

I hope you read this oath brother this is on US congress Library.

[FONT=Trebuchet MS,Arial,Helvetica]The Jesuit Oath Exposed [/FONT]
[HR][/HR]"Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated."
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Professor Arthur Noble[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216), [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]from which it was subsequently torn out. The Oath is also quoted by Charles Didier in his book Subterranean Rome (New York, 1843), translated from the French original. Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below. – A. N.]


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This is part of the oath:

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(The Superior speaks
My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope. You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means. You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death. You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved". Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:
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[JustinFromTwinCities]

Man I wish this thread want so long. There's no way I'm going to read all this to catch up. I'll just say my piece.
It's 100% without a doubt the Catholic Church. To consider all the evidence and still think otherwise, you'd have to be blind our biased. The end.

 

[PlainWord]

Man I wish this thread want so long. There's no way I'm going to read all this to catch up. I'll just say my piece.
It's 100% without a doubt the Catholic Church. To consider all the evidence and still think otherwise, you'd have to be blind our biased. The end.

Completely wrong. It is ISLAM.