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Godhead bodily does not mean Jesus is the Father or the Holy Spirit. It means He had the divine nature as well as the divine presence. It simply means that Jesus became God incarnate and appeared in human form. But, there's no use arguing with a blind man.. just know that 99% of Christianity would disagree with you.
 
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How do you reconcile the Sh'ma ?

Hear Israel the Lord our God the Lord is one.
Sh'ma Ysrael Adonai Elohyinu Adonai echad.

So God is ECHAD... Right? God told the Israelites to quote this every single day that God is ECHAD, because God would be revealing another Person who is the ETERNAL Son of God.

So after we understand God is "echad" let's discover the Hebrew text and define the word.

Genesis 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

They shall become "ECHAD", yeah it's the same Hebrew word.. Remember the Sh'ma ? God is ECHAD, right here we have an example of two PERSONS as ONE (echad) a man and woman who are obviously two distinct persons but yet God says they are ECHAD like HE is ECHAD....

Can we confirm this elsewhere?

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Wow... Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness.. God who is echad... Creating man n His image or sorry.. The text says "OUR" image, and Genesis 2:24 says a man and woman become echad, they become one.. They are made in the image of God..

Does Jesus confirm this at all? Yes.. Of course..

John 17
9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.

How can Jesus make it anymore clear? Let them be ONE as we are... Jesus is God, the Father is God because God is ECHAD.. They are not two separate God's they are two separate Persons.. Jesus says let them be ONE, as we are.. Obviously the Church - the body of Messiah is ONE, but we are not all the same person we are many members but ONE body.
When God acts with all His billions of Angels as Lord over His Kingdom of heaven and all He commands, He can say 'We', or 'Our', just like a King over all that He commands can refer to his kingdom of loyal subjects can say 'we'.
 
Jan 8, 2009
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and then Jesus puts himself under the Father:

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 
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#45
How do you reconcile the Sh'ma ?

Hear Israel the Lord our God the Lord is one.
Sh'ma Ysrael Adonai Elohyinu Adonai echad.

So God is ECHAD... Right? God told the Israelites to quote this every single day that God is ECHAD, because God would be revealing another Person who is the ETERNAL Son of God.

So after we understand God is "echad" let's discover the Hebrew text and define the word.

Genesis 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

They shall become "ECHAD", yeah it's the same Hebrew word.. Remember the Sh'ma ? God is ECHAD, right here we have an example of two PERSONS as ONE (echad) a man and woman who are obviously two distinct persons but yet God says they are ECHAD like HE is ECHAD....

Can we confirm this elsewhere?

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Wow... Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness.. God who is echad... Creating man n His image or sorry.. The text says "OUR" image, and Genesis 2:24 says a man and woman become echad, they become one.. They are made in the image of God..

Does Jesus confirm this at all? Yes.. Of course..

John 17
9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.

How can Jesus make it anymore clear? Let them be ONE as we are... Jesus is God, the Father is God because God is ECHAD.. They are not two separate God's they are two separate Persons.. Jesus says let them be ONE, as we are.. Obviously the Church - the body of Messiah is ONE, but we are not all the same person we are many members but ONE body.

WHO DO YOU THINK THE IMAGE OF GOD IS.......?

COLOSSIANS 1:15
JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD

IF YOU KEEP READING

YOU WILL SEE THAT JESUS IS ALSO CREATOR OF EVERYTHING FOR HIM AND BY HIM

JOHN 1:3
WORD = JESUS ...ALL THINGS.......WERE MADE BY HIM

SO IF JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF GOD
THEN
OUR IMAGE
IS EVERYTHING ALREADY CREATED LIKE JESUS
WHICH
WOULD BE
THE ANGELS HE WAS SPEAKING TO
WHEN
HE CREATED MAN
 
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#46
and then Jesus puts himself under the Father:

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
How many God's are there?

'God may be all in all'
 
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#47
When God acts with all His billions of Angels as Lord over His Kingdom of heaven and all He commands, He can say 'We', or 'Our', just like a King over all that He commands can refer to his kingdom of loyal subjects can say 'we'.
That doesn't answer how a married man and woman are "echad" like God is "echad".

And let's look into that. So this echad God of the Scriptures says "let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness"

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Do you see any mention of angels here? Did God lie when He said "Let US make man" ???

I see God creating man, and God is echad therefore God, the Father and Jesus created man out of dust. No mention of your alleged angels here, sorry!
 
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#48
WHO DO YOU THINK THE IMAGE OF GOD IS.......?

COLOSSIANS 1:15
JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD

IF YOU KEEP READING

YOU WILL SEE THAT JESUS IS ALSO CREATOR OF EVERYTHING FOR HIM AND BY HIM

JOHN 1:3
WORD = JESUS ...ALL THINGS.......WERE MADE BY HIM

SO IF JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF GOD
THEN
OUR IMAGE
IS EVERYTHING ALREADY CREATED LIKE JESUS
WHICH
WOULD BE
THE ANGELS HE WAS SPEAKING TO
WHEN
HE CREATED MAN
That doesn't explain how God is "echad" and a married man and woman (two distinct persons) become ONE (echad) and they are made in God's image - giving us the idea .. Just through the ancient Hebrew text that God is at least 2 distinct Persons!

And once again Jesus doesn't have multiple personalities He is obviously creating with the Father or as the Scripture says the Father THROUGH Him making God (who is echad) create men in God's image.
 
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Godhead bodily does not mean Jesus is the Father or the Holy Spirit. It means He had the divine nature as well as the divine presence. It simply means that Jesus became God incarnate and appeared in human form. But, there's no use arguing with a blind man.. just know that 99% of Christianity would disagree with you.

NO
WRONG AGAIN

JOHN 14:8-11
JESUS TOLD PHILIP WHO ASKED SHEW US THE FATHER
JESUS SAID
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO I AM.......?

GALATIANS 4:6
GOD SENT FORTH THE SPIRIT OF THE SON TO US
NOW
NOTICE
CAPITAL S
THE HOLY GHOST IS THE PERSONAL SPIRIT OF JESUS
NOT
AN INDIVIDUAL
 
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#50
and then Jesus puts himself under the Father:

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

THE FLESH IS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO THE SPIRIT
AFTER
THE RESURRECTION
THE FLESH BECAME NO MORE
THUS
GOD THE SPIRIT BECAME
ALL IN ALL
 
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That doesn't explain how God is "echad" and a married man and woman (two distinct persons) become ONE (echad) and they are made in God's image - giving us the idea .. Just through the ancient Hebrew text that God is at least 2 distinct Persons!

And once again Jesus doesn't have multiple personalities He is obviously creating with the Father or as the Scripture says the Father THROUGH Him making God (who is echad) create men in God's image.

GOD IN DIVINE BEING

IS NOTHING LIKE
2 SEPARATE PEOPLE
JOINING TOGETHER
YES THE WIFE TAKES THE MANS NAME SO NOW THEY ARE ONE COUPLE

BUT GOD
IS ONE
WITH MANY FUNCTIONS

GRACE-LOVE-PEACE-FATHER-WORD-HOLY GHOST-PROVIDER-SAVIOR-OMNIPOTENT-
OMNIPRESENT-OMNISCIENT-FRIEND-HOLY ONE-MESSIAH-JEHOVA-ELOHIM-I AM-
ALPHA AND OMEGA-PROTECTOR-ROD-STAFF-SHIELD-BUCKLER
AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON
TO READ THAT LIST
YOU COULD THINK
WOW
IS THAT MANY GODS
NO
IT IS ONE GOD
ALL IN ALL
 
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#52
We were created in Gods image body mind and spirit. God as well has three unique parts like us. The body which is Jesus Christ is lesser because God chose to take on a body not because it is lesser the same spirit that is in Christ is The Holy Spirit or God. Now the Holy Spirit is the heart of God and that is why it is unforgiveable to blaspheme it and it points us toward all the attributes of God it is also is sent to become part of our hearts as well. God of course is the mind which controls all creation and of course is the Father and controls all parts of himself as well as creation.3 parts that make up one God that is not confined to our limitations like Man is except in the form of Christ which he took on for us.
 
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#53
GOD IN DIVINE BEING

IS NOTHING LIKE
2 SEPARATE PEOPLE
JOINING TOGETHER
YES THE WIFE TAKES THE MANS NAME SO NOW THEY ARE ONE COUPLE

BUT GOD
IS ONE
WITH MANY FUNCTIONS

GRACE-LOVE-PEACE-FATHER-WORD-HOLY GHOST-PROVIDER-SAVIOR-OMNIPOTENT-
OMNIPRESENT-OMNISCIENT-FRIEND-HOLY ONE-MESSIAH-JEHOVA-ELOHIM-I AM-
ALPHA AND OMEGA-PROTECTOR-ROD-STAFF-SHIELD-BUCKLER
AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON
TO READ THAT LIST
YOU COULD THINK
WOW
IS THAT MANY GODS
NO
IT IS ONE GOD
ALL IN ALL
Attributes of God doesn't make Him more than one being, it simply makes His character. The Hebrew text clearly teaches God is one (echad) and that we are made in God's image. Making us one "echad" so when a couple gets married they become "echad" or ONE, like God is ONE. Two distinct persons but they are ONE. You would however see them as two different beings because you disagree with what God clearly says. But a married couple is ONE being, they become echad, but yet two very distinct persons.
 
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Attributes of God doesn't make Him more than one being, it simply makes His character. The Hebrew text clearly teaches God is one (echad) and that we are made in God's image. Making us one "echad" so when a couple gets married they become "echad" or ONE, like God is ONE. Two distinct persons but they are ONE. You would however see them as two different beings because you disagree with what God clearly says. But a married couple is ONE being, they become echad, but yet two very distinct persons.


I KEEP FORGETTING YOU ARE 18
WHEN YOU GET MARRIED
AND HAVE A CHILD
THIS IS CALLED
FLESH OF MY FLESH AND BONE OF MY BONE
THIS IS 2 PEOPLE
BECOMING ONE
IT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN BE ONE
SEX
IS 2 FLESH BEINGS BECOMING ONE
INTWINING

GOD
WHO
IS
SPIRIT
AND
FLESH
ARE STILL THE SAME GOD
IT MAY APPEAR HE IS MORE
BUT
HE IS AND WILL ONLY
BE ONE
 
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NO
WRONG AGAIN
JOHN 14:8-11
JESUS TOLD PHILIP WHO ASKED SHEW US THE FATHER
JESUS SAID
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO I AM.......?

GALATIANS 4:6
GOD SENT FORTH THE SPIRIT OF THE SON TO US
NOW
NOTICE
CAPITAL S
THE HOLY GHOST IS THE PERSONAL SPIRIT OF JESUS
NOT
AN INDIVIDUAL
Yes the Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, but it is incorrect to say that Christ is the Spirit or that the Spirit is Christ.


THE FLESH IS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO THE SPIRIT
AFTER

THE RESURRECTION
THE FLESH BECAME NO MORE
THUS
GOD THE SPIRIT BECAME
ALL IN ALL
That is wrong. Jesus's flesh was resurrected, his flesh was glorified.. his flesh did not "become no more". Your beliefs are right off the mark.
 
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#56
I KEEP FORGETTING YOU ARE 18
WHEN YOU GET MARRIED
AND HAVE A CHILD
THIS IS CALLED
FLESH OF MY FLESH AND BONE OF MY BONE
THIS IS 2 PEOPLE
BECOMING ONE
IT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN BE ONE
SEX
IS 2 FLESH BEINGS BECOMING ONE
INTWINING

GOD
WHO
IS
SPIRIT
AND
FLESH
ARE STILL THE SAME GOD
IT MAY APPEAR HE IS MORE
BUT
HE IS AND WILL ONLY
BE ONE
Yes they become one flesh, but they continue to be one flesh until one of them dies. So I don't see your point.

God is flesh huh, why is it that....

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
?

God is one, you just have misunderstandings about the trinity that would be very easy to explain if you actually read my posts.
 
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Yes the Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, but it is incorrect to say that Christ is the Spirit or that the Spirit is Christ.




That is wrong. Jesus's flesh was resurrected, his flesh was glorified.. his flesh did not "become no more". Your beliefs are right off the mark.

PAUL WAS SPECIFIC THAT THE HOLY GHOST IS THE SPIRIT OF JESUS

A GLORIFIED BODY IS A SPIRITUAL BODY

THE BIBLE IS RIGHT ON THE MARK
YOUR INTERPRETATION
IS OF YOURSELF
NOT
SCRIPTURE
 
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#58
Yes they become one flesh, but they continue to be one flesh until one of them dies. So I don't see your point.

God is flesh huh, why is it that....

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
?

God is one, you just have misunderstandings about the trinity that would be very easy to explain if you actually read my posts.
Hebrews 2:14

I metioned that earlier..

'God is one'

how many is one?
 
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Yes they become one flesh, but they continue to be one flesh until one of them dies. So I don't see your point.

God is flesh huh, why is it that....

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
?

God is one, you just have misunderstandings about the trinity that would be very easy to explain if you actually read my posts.

GOD IS A SPIRITUAL BODY

EZEKIEL 1:26
THE ONE WHO SITS UPON THE THRONE OF GOD
IS IN THE IMAGE OF A MAN
 
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Jesus still had his flesh in his glorified body. Do you think Jesus became just a Spirit? IF so then you are listening to the spirit of the anti-christ according to 1 John.
 
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