you add concepts which do not appear in Scripture ... "spiritual hearing" ... I know you have to include that term in order to support your dogma ... but the Author of Scripture does not state "spiritual hearing" in the verse:
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation ...
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation ...
rogerg said:
You get into trouble when you do not follow the instructions the Bible sets forth
Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
rogerg said:
Here, this is what Christ said as an example of spiritual hearing. They could hear with human ears but they could not hear spiritually.
[Jhn 8:43, 47 KJV]
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. ...
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.
[Jhn 8:43, 47 KJV]
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. ...
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
The Lord Jesus Christ tells us they did not believe Him ... they rejected Him ... they rejected the truth ... they made their own way instead of following Him.
They did the same thing you and brightfame52 are doing now ... add a little here ... remove a little there ...
rogerg said:
you do not need to add anything ... just believe the verse as written by the Author.
fyi ... reading God's Word just as He wrote it does not mean "you're in violation of the Bible".
You can't read God's Word just as He wrote it because your dogma is not in alignment with Scripture. You are to align your dogma with Scripture and where you are in error, let go of the error.
rogerg said:
You get into trouble when you do not follow the instructions the Bible sets forth regarding its interpretation and that leads you into error. You've set forth that rule from yourself with no biblical basis for it.
That you have a problem with my pointing out to you that in reading Eph 1:13-14 you "do not need to add anything ... just believe the verse as written by the Author" reveals your lack of trust and faith in God ... you know, the Author of Scripture ...
rogerg said:
The word "sealed" is translated from the Greek word sphragizó and denotes ownership:
4972 sphragízō – to seal (affix) with a signet ring or other instrument to stamp (a roller or seal), i.e. to attest ownership, authorizing (validating) what is sealed.
4972 /sphragízō ("to seal") signifies ownership and the full security carried by the backing (full authority) of the owner. "Sealing" in the ancient world served as a "legal signature" which guaranteed the promise (contents) of what was sealed.
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4972 sphragízō – to seal (affix) with a signet ring or other instrument to stamp (a roller or seal), i.e. to attest ownership, authorizing (validating) what is sealed.
4972 /sphragízō ("to seal") signifies ownership and the full security carried by the backing (full authority) of the owner. "Sealing" in the ancient world served as a "legal signature" which guaranteed the promise (contents) of what was sealed.
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The seal signifies the born again one belongs to God. Eph 1:13 makes clear that the child of God is sealed at the time he or she believes ... not before (in eternity past) ... not in some distant point in the future (in eternity future) ... but in this life the born again one has placed upon him or her the seal (which denotes that the born again one belongs to God).
The earnest [Greek arrabón] of the Spirit represents full security backed by the Purchaser Who supplies sufficient proof that He will fulfill the entire pledge. God is the Guarantor ... the earnest of the Spirit represents the full security that the entire pledge will be fulfilled. And if you want to know what the entire pledge is, it's stated right in the verse ... the entire pledge is the inheritance. We are joint heirs with Christ (Rom 8:17). The arrabón of the Spirit is a foretaste of our future full inheritance in the Lord Jesus Christ. He is faithful Who promised.
That truth may or may not appeal to you ... to those who are born again, the truth contained in Eph 1:13-14 is an awesome reality!!!
rogerg said:
And the sign of His invisible presence is manifested in faith and trust.
Ephesians 1:13-14 13 In whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
hear the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation ... after you believed, you were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise ... which is the arrabón of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession.
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