Why do baptists think drinking and dancing are sins?

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Before we start hatin' on the Puritans too much, remember that they were among the first societies to insist that little girls were worthy of an education. Some folks fail to credit them with popularizing inoculation in the West, a practice which has saved millions, if not billions, of lives. They weren't artless Philistines, either. In fact, if you were to compose a list of the greatest, most influential poets the world has ever known, the Puritan John Milton would hover near the top. As a people, they were actually among the most sophisticated the world had ever known.
 
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Cobblepot said:
Before we start hatin' on the Puritans too much, remember that they were among the first societies to insist that little girls were worthy of an education. Some folks fail to credit them with popularizing inoculation in the West, a practice which has saved millions, if not billions, of lives. They weren't artless Philistines, either. In fact, if you were to compose a list of the greatest, most influential poets the world has ever known, the Puritan John Milton would hover near the top. As a people, they were actually among the most sophisticated the world had ever known.
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Great points. Thank you. Yeah, I am often attributing their negative influences to some of the problems we're facing to today and it's quick to forget that God too has blessed them and were themselves (being human afterall) icons of Christ.

Cool. Thanks again. God bless.

*I'd still go stir crazy if I had to live with the Puritans. :p
 
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Before we start hatin' on the Puritans too much, remember that they were among the first societies to insist that little girls were worthy of an education.
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I appreciate the rest of what you're saying, but I would argue that the importance ancient Israel put on education thousands of years prior means the Puritans weren't among the first. Perhaps among the first western civilizations ? However, the point remains valid, and I Kudos to those early settlers for recognizing that G-d knew what He was doing in commanding us, through His Torah, to educate our children without regard to gender.
 
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i think its common sense when there is 'dirty dancing' or sexually suggestive 'dancing that it is wrong.. dancing in general?? *shakes head* that makes no sense to me..*shrugs*
 
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If this school is teaching this stuff to be a sin, then they should also teach you the reason behind it.....have you asked why?

I suggest you find out what is wrong and right by reading your bible, studying it and praying about your answers. Then stand in confidence (not arrogance), when your teachers contradict the truth you know from scripture. They can give you all the detentions they want but dont let them steal the truth from your heart. God will commend you for standing in faith in His truth, not theirs.
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They haven't said why yet.
 
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My daughter asked me the other day did I think Jesus drank wine. I said of course he did. But he didn't get drunk. And if we know someone has a problem with drinking we can't drink in front of them to cause them to fall. I went to a place my son was going to dance one time. He was getting into trouble. The dancing was just nasty. What a lot of young people think is just normal dancing these days. This giant evil snake was squirming all through the people. That was evil. Dancing to have fun is just fine. Jesus wants us to have fun. Some say only dance to worship of the Lord. They also sit around and talk about what all the ladies wear they think is out of line. Jesus looks at the heart. People make up all kinds of rules and their not God.
 
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I appreciate the rest of what you're saying, but I would argue that the importance ancient Israel put on education thousands of years prior means the Puritans weren't among the first. Perhaps among the first western civilizations ? However, the point remains valid, and I Kudos to those early settlers for recognizing that G-d knew what He was doing in commanding us, through His Torah, to educate our children without regard to gender.
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The Puritans definitely weren't the first society to place a great deal of emphasis on education, but I'm pretty sure they were the first to really experiment with formal public education that was required of all children. It's my understanding that the Puritans and Congregationalists pioneered the concept, and then the Prussian Empire independently crafted a decentralized form of public education that isn't too dissimilar from what we have today.
 
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perhaps the baptist think that dancing might be sensual and causing temptations?
we live undoubtely in a very sensual age, perhaps they want to keep worldliness outside?
I go to baptist church myself and the singers they do dance.
 
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Jesus wants us to have fun

I don't think I have ever come across that text. Oh, of course, it's NOT in there.

Dancing fits into that part of Galatians 5 (the works of the flesh) under the expression "and such like."

Modern dancing of males and females together in no way can be equated with spiritual health.

It is a work of the flesh that appeals to sensuality.
 
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I gotta cut loose! Footloose! Kick off the Sunday shoes!
 
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I heard somewhere the reason baptists don't like drinking and dancing is because they drank and danced when they cut off John the Baptists head. I'm not sure how valid that is but I was asking on my moms friends and thats what she said.
 
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Im a southern baptist, and i dont know of anyone at my church who believes that drinking and dancing are sins.
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I've been a member of both American Baptist and Southern Baptist churches and although drinking was always frowned upon, dancing wasn't usually an issue. However, I once went to a youth rally in a midwestern state (American Baptist) and the older people there got really uptight about the kids dancing in the sanctuary during a Christian rock concert. (Personally, I thought it was awesome.) I think Baptists tend to be a little more fundamentalist and conservative. Why? Good question. Probably need a historian to answer that.
 
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I'm a Baptist and I personally dont know any Baptists who believe that drinking or dancing is a sin. I'm sure that there are some out there though, and I do know of some people from other denominations that believe that they are sins. In our church drinking is discouraged, for the most part, because it can lead to you getting drunk, which is a sin, and it is much easier for some people to become addicted to alcohol than others. Certain types of dancing (you know what kinds I'm talking about) are frowned upon if they can cause somebody to have impure thoughts. What is the name of your school ? You also have to realize that there are many different smaller denominations inside the Baptist denomination; The biggest of these is Southern Baptist which I have never known to ban dancing...possibly drinking simply because it is so easy to go too far with it.
 
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The church needs to ban singing and music, too. Because singing and music are used in religious rituals of EVERY FAITH, Satanists sing, Wiccans sing, WE MUST NOT SING.

Also, while we're at it, lets ban painting, too. Painting and books. And sculpture.

Anything that stands as an expressive art with no black and white meaning, we must get rid of. The bible should be the only book in existence, and the only art should be Protestan Christian art. We need to destroy every piece of Catholic art.

/sarcasm

PS: lol
 
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Isaiah 29:13 ...their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men...
Matthew 15:9...They worship me in vain, their teachings are but rules taught by men...

It is an interesting thing when a culture or a people, who claim to cherish liberty, allow themselves to be robbed of their personal freedoms. The government claims to fight this neverending war on terror, while Americans naivly relinquish freedoms in the name of safety. It is even more interesting when the church begins to erode itself from the inside by introducing new laws/rules which they are convinced God fully endorses, but which actually gives those in authority, more control. Those in authority both in government and in ministry often use their power and the people's trust, to invent new and increasingly creative ways to limit freedom and personal expression.

We are not ignorant of satan's devices, we are all capable of defining the terms, sexual immorality and drunkenness. Prohibitive teachings which cause people to limit their lives and personal expression, run the risk of reinstututing a type of righteousness thought to be attainable through outward holiness. Simply, using good judgment and exercising self-discipline is encouraged throughout the new testement, and some bad behavior is avoided through simple common sense.

ICorinthians 8:9 But, be careful so that your liberty does not become a stumblingblock to the weak.

The weak are those who are not skilled in exercising good judgment and self-control, and allow themselves to be taken captive by excessive use of their liberty, ie... allowing dancing to lead to sexual immorality, allowing a few drinks to lead to illegal or destructive behaviors.

ICorinthians ...all things are permissable for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any...


 
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VeritasLuxMea said:
The church needs to ban singing and music, too. Because singing and music are used in religious rituals of EVERY FAITH, Satanists sing, Wiccans sing, WE MUST NOT SING.

Also, while we're at it, lets ban painting, too. Painting and books. And sculpture.

Anything that stands as an expressive art with no black and white meaning, we must get rid of. The bible should be the only book in existence, and the only art should be Protestan Christian art. We need to destroy every piece of Catholic art.

/sarcasm

PS: lol
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Man, I hear that. We are so good at being "buffet" Christians, picking and choosing what we will consider evil and what we won't consider evil. If dancing is a "work of the flesh that appeals to sensuality" then speaking is an act of the flesh that appeals to lying so we shouldn't do that. Being naked at all, even to take a shower or to change clothes is an act of the flesh that appeals to lust and sexuality, so we should make sure we are completey clothed AT ALL TIMES. Sleeping causes dreaming, and your dreams can sometimes have themes that aren't Biblical, so we should stop doing that, too. Seriously...c'mon. God is going to look in your HEART. He sees things on a much larger scale than we do. When I hear good music and start dancing to it, I'm not thinking about rubbing up against someone like a cat in heat, I'm not thinking about or trying to emulate sex, I'm letting my appreciation for the music flow through my body, I'm having fun. Dance can be beautiful and artistic, tell a story, uplift people. Sure, people can be pretty raunchy when they dance, but not all dance is like that.

We can't pick and choose, if you are going to point your finger at one thing, then you better be prepared to again, have only christian made goods that were designed for christian acts. That means you better get off the internet because it was not designed by christians for christians, even though there are good websites, there are bad websites too, that makes the whole thing evil. And you better get rid of your computer, too, because while you can run good programs on it, and do good things with it, computers can be used to write evil prose, compose evil music, or play evil games on.

*Facepalm* we are discerning adults. We don't have to view everything as black in white in large groups. There is bad dancing, there is good dancing. Just like there is drinking (which is okay) and being drunk (which is wrong). We dont' have to lump everything into the evil category just because it can be used to evil purposes, or just because a single part of it can be construed as un-Godly. God gave us amazing brains that can think and reason. Let's use them.
 
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I wonder if god condems the boot scootin boogie
 
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