Why do christian woman refuse to wear headscarf when praying?

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Mem

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Some believe that only defiled women (especially such as prostitutes) would
uncover their hair. Like an act of rebellion, and/or showing lack of respect.
Incidentally, I was catching up on my Hebrew study updates, and learned of the temple's cleansing ritual that required shaving the hair before entering into a mikveh (ritual bath) and applying the blood on the right ear, thumb, and toe. And I do wonder if there is any relevance to that custom concerning the shaving of the hair here.
 

Magenta

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That's awesome. But I'm going to have to take my hat off more to get my face tanned like the rest of me.
Well, *ahem* I overlaid Magnus Publius' face over that of the toga'd Roman, but had to reduce the opacity of it
to blend it with the other to try to make it look more or less like a natural "fit" and without going into excessive
boring details, I did not take the time with it that I normally would with a panel where I am sometimes putting
together parts of five or six different faces to create one new one... for instance, this recent panel:



Philippians 3:20-21

The main face I started with looked like this:

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:)
 

Mem

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Well, *ahem* I overlaid Magnus Publius' face over that of the toga'd Roman, but had to reduce the opacity of it
to blend it with the other to try to make it look more or less like a natural "fit" and without going into excessive
boring details, I did not take the time with it that I normally would with a panel where I am sometimes putting
together parts of five different faces to create one new one... for instance, this recent panel:



Philippians 3:20-21

The main face I started with looked like this:

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:)
Interesting, considering the technique you describe of the process, is it coincidence that she now sort of looks like Michael Jackson?
 

Cameron143

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Well, *ahem* I overlaid Magnus Publius' face over that of the toga'd Roman, but had to reduce the opacity of it
to blend it with the other to try to make it look more or less like a natural "fit" and without going into excessive
boring details, I did not take the time with it that I normally would with a panel where I am sometimes putting
together parts of five or six different faces to create one new one... for instance, this recent panel:



Philippians 3:20-21

The main face I started with looked like this:

View attachment 250653
:)
I was just teasing. That my head finally got a body and I got to keep the fedora was far beyond the stick figure drawing I did of you.
 

Mem

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I was just teasing. That my head finally got a body and I got to keep the fedora was far beyond the stick figure drawing I did of you.
I find myself wishing I had acquired the skill that Magenta has mastered but...
....I understand why I wasn't permitted to learn it... I'm probably already going to be in a lot of trouble for what I've only written :cautious:
 

Cameron143

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I find myself wishing I had acquired the skill that Magenta has mastered but...
....I understand why I wasn't permitted to learn it... I'm probably already going to be in a lot of trouble for what I've only written :cautious:
You are. I gave your picture a mustache.
 

Magenta

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I was just teasing. That my head finally got a body and I got to keep the fedora was far beyond the stick figure drawing I did of you.
I hope you had a hat on me .:giggle:
 

Magenta

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I find myself wishing I had acquired the skill that Magenta has mastered but...
....I understand why I wasn't permitted to learn it... I'm probably already going to be in a lot of trouble for what I've only written :cautious:
Dearest Mem... I am a hack compared to people who have mastered Photoshop. I look back at some of
my earlier stuff and cringe LOL. But I do see improvement over time, and that counts for something
.:D.

I also know very little of the program, but muddle along with the few tools I use.

I can spend an hour, two hours, three, just trying to get the eyes right.

And then? Ugh. Scrap them and start with a fresh pair of eyes LOL
 

Magenta

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I did but I only know how to draw tophats so you look like a cross between Sir Topham Hatt and a young Abe Lincoln.
Somehow that seems oddly appropriate given the panel I showed
was in response to the will-Jesus-come-back-as-a-woman thread
.:ROFL:
 

Flannery

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I had an Irish teacher in primary school who did not permit the boys to wear their hats inside the classroom.

I had an Irish teacher in Elementary school too. Also, I learned how to speak it.
 

Mem

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The head coverings for women has to do with ----God's Spiritual order ---it has nothing to do with being called a true Christian which comes by way of receiving Jesus as your Lord ans Saviour ----the husband is the head of his wife and God is the head of Christ ---so by wearing the head cover the woman is showing submission to God's Spiritual Order ----the scripture tells you that -----so the scripture says the woman is to wear the head covering when she prays or prophecies -----it doesn't say she needs to wear a head covering all day long unlees she is praying all day long ----which I doubt ------

Also I think God is more interested in where your heart lies then He is about your head being covering when you pray ---

If you read about the Corinthian Church they were a pretty corrupt Church ----Paul was trying to straighten things out

What are the major issues that 1 Corinthians addresses?

Paul writes to the church in Corinth to address some big problems: division, sexual misconduct, confusion about food and worship practices, and controversy surrounding Jesus' resurrection. Paul says these issues can be resolved because Jesus is alive.
My knowledge of tradition is limited to what I've been able to skim along the way as a student of "ET"ymology, as I call it, but wearing a wedding ring was a common practice among historical Hebrew culture as much as wearing a head covering to show the distinction of a wife. So, a woman, and more accurately a wife, 'dishonoring her head' here seems to speak better natively to a disregard, or disrespect, toward her husband.
 

SomeDisciple

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Paul was talking about cultural issues of that time, not necessarily that women of every decade, in every generation everywhere had to wear a veil. In the area of Corinth, it was the culture for married women to wear a veil while praying and prophesying to show their submission to their husband as head of their family in the church. But some women were taking their veils off while praying and prophesying as if to show that they're defying their position.

So this isn't about a command from God that women must wear veils when they pray and prophesy for all time everywhere. This was a matter of gender distinction and position. If Paul was here in the now, Paul would have defined how men and women should show distinction between the genders and hierarchy of family (husbands as leaders and wives as under the care, protection and leadership of the husband, and single people as proper single men and women under the care of the Lord Jesus).

Well, I can't say I agree, because he gives commendation at the beginning of the chapter. If it were a case of rebellious or defiant women, Paul was not shy about rebuking the Corinthians, just as he does at the end of the chapter for their mishandling of the Lords supper. It's much more likely that someone asked for clarification about covering OR they somehow conveyed having a conceptual-error about it to him- as Paul begins by saying "I want you to understand..."/"I would have you know...".

To me, Paul's reasoning as to why men/women ought to be uncovered/covered seem based on principles rather than local custom.
 

NotmebutHim

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You don't have to be a feminist (of any stripe) to see that the claim that any woman who doesn't wear a head covering (besides her hair) is in open rebellion against God and destined for hell is ridiculous.

And no, I'm not a feminist.

It's really stupid that anyone who speaks up for a man is accused of upholding "patriarchy" and that anyone who speaks up for a woman is accused of upholding feminism and rebellion against God's order.

I've posted against feminism many times before in these forums, but I can't get on board with this head covering OP.