Why do some Christians think the Catholic Church is evil/wrong/herasy?

[notuptome]

You people come on these threads and then just lie about the church! What kind of Christian does that? Last time I checked, lying is one of the top ten

You accuse them of lying and they accuse you of denying.

I married into a RCC family so I have over 40 years of experience with them. I know some RCCs that have gotten saved and have spoken with them at length on the subject.

I have been to far too many RCC funerals to think for one second that their church believes or teaches that they went to heaven. Funeral masses are a real ordeal and complete farce.

You only deceive yourself if you trust Romanism.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[mwc68]

You accuse them of lying and they accuse you of denying.

I married into a RCC family so I have over 40 years of experience with them. I know some RCCs that have gotten saved and have spoken with them at length on the subject.

I have been to far too many RCC funerals to think for one second that their church believes or teaches that they went to heaven. Funeral masses are a real ordeal and complete farce.

You only deceive yourself if you trust Romanism.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Obviously you weren't paying attention and just looking down your nose at us! Sir, i provide music at several funeral masses a year and I know you are lying. Do ya'll forget you are talking to a practicing Catholic ?

 

[Jeff_56]

better question: why does Yahweh the Creator,

call the rcc abomination heresy and anti-christ and the great deceiver whore ?

could it be that they've wantonly destroyed billions of lives and souls and continue to do so without any conscience ? (yes) (the rcc is wicked from the very core and origin)

 

[Jeff_56]

pay attention to liars? HA!

and since you(rcc) all consign yourselves to hades, we cannot look UP to see you --- you're all down below, in reality and in spirit and in the judgment .

Obviously you weren't paying attention and just looking down your nose at us!

 

[mwc68]

better question: why does Yahweh the Creator,

call the rcc abomination heresy and anti-christ and the great deceiver whore ?

could it be that they've wantonly destroyed billions of lives and souls and continue to do so without any conscience ? (yes) (the rcc is wicked from the very core and origin)

He doesn't, you do

 

[notuptome]

Obviously you weren't paying attention and just looking down your nose at us! Sir, i provide music at several funeral masses a year and I know you are lying. Do ya'll forget you are talking to a practicing Catholic ?

Always with the caustic accusations. I've seen what you have written about your music and do not find anything Christian about it. Besides which you play for you. You are a performer not a believer. Of course that makes you perfect for the RCC.

I'm not looking down my nose for I feel the loss of loved ones who died estranged from God through the RCC.

Practice all you want but practice just makes permanent. It takes perfect practice to make perfect. You worship but not according to knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[valiant]

Jesus seems to have taken it pretty literally...

not if you really understand what He is saying against the background of the Old Testament.

The central all revealing verse is, 'I am the Bread of life. he who COMES TO ME (thus 'eating' of me) will never hunger, and he who BELIEVES IN ME (thus 'drinking of me) will never thirst.' John 6.35

 

[valiant]

growth of RC doctrine (some dates are approximate)
1 . Prayers for the dead . …………-------------------……300 A.D.
2. Making the sign of the cross ………………………… …300 A.D.
3. Veneration of angels & dead saints …………---------…….375 A.D.
4. Use of images in worship………………………………… . 375 A.D.
5. The Mass as a daily celebration……………………………… 394 A.D.
6 Beginning of the exaltation of Mary; the term, "Mother of God" applied a Council of Ephesus…- 431 A.D.
7 Extreme Unction (Last Rites)……………………………… ..526 A.D.
8. Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory 1…………………………… .593 A.D..
9. Prayers to Mary & dead saints ……………………………… .600 A.D.
10. Worship of cross, images & relics ……………………… … 786 A.D.
11 Canonization of dead saints ………………………………… ..995 A.D.
12. Celibacy of priesthood …………………………………… …1079 A.D.
13. The Rosary ……………………………………………… … 1090 A.D.
14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………………… 1215 A.D.
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………………..1414 A.D.
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent…………………………………………----------------… 1545 A.D.
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………------------……….1546 A.D.
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals,proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) ……………………………-----------------------------------……1950 A.D.
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.

 

[mwc68]

not if you really understand what He is saying against the background of the Old Testament.

The central all revealing verse is, 'I am the Bread of life. he who COMES TO ME (thus 'eating' of me) will never hunger, and he who BELIEVES IN ME (thus 'drinking of me) will never thirst.' John 6.35

How is this eating and drinking when it goes against what Our Lord Jesus Christ taught at the Last Supper?Looks like you are adding to scripture.

 

[valiant]

Originally Posted by valiant

not if you really understand what He is saying against the background of the Old Testament.

The central all revealing verse is, 'I am the Bread of life. he who COMES TO ME (thus 'eating' of me) will never hunger, and he who BELIEVES IN ME (thus 'drinking of me) will never thirst.' John 6.35

How is this eating and drinking when it goes against what Our Lord Jesus Christ taught at the Last Supper?

But this WAS the purpose of the Last Supper, to cause people to come to Him and believe on Him not in order to establish a church ritual..

 

[mwc68]

growth of RC doctrine (some dates are approximate)
1 . Prayers for the dead . …………-------------------……300 A.D.
2. Making the sign of the cross ………………………… …300 A.D.
3. Veneration of angels & dead saints …………---------…….375 A.D.
4. Use of images in worship………………………………… . 375 A.D.
5. The Mass as a daily celebration……………………………… 394 A.D.
6 Beginning of the exaltation of Mary; the term, "Mother of God" applied a Council of Ephesus…- 431 A.D.
7 Extreme Unction (Last Rites)……………………………… ..526 A.D.
8. Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory 1…………………………… .593 A.D..
9. Prayers to Mary & dead saints ……………………………… .600 A.D.
10. Worship of cross, images & relics ……………………… … 786 A.D.
11 Canonization of dead saints ………………………………… ..995 A.D.
12. Celibacy of priesthood …………………………………… …1079 A.D.
13. The Rosary ……………………………………………… … 1090 A.D.
14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………………… 1215 A.D.
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………………..1414 A.D.
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent…………………………………………----------------… 1545 A.D.
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………------------……….1546 A.D.
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals,proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) ……………………………-----------------------------------……1950 A.D.
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.

Oh good grief! You and your list again

 

[KenAllan]

Its a waste of time showing mwc68 the Truth from God because all he does is trample on the Word of God.

His agenda is to bring the lies of Satan to people to deceive them into joining the Roman Catholic Church to keep them out of Heaven.

His mind is made up and wants nothing to do with the Truth from the Holy Spirit because he has Mary for his God. Mwc68 is totally convinced that Mary can allow him to enter into Heaven while keeping the True Christians out of Heaven.

He has put his total trust in Mary as his God and will never change.

 

[mwc68]

Its a waste of time showing mwc68 the Truth from God because all he does is trample on the Word of God.

His agenda is to bring the lies of Satan to people to deceive them into joining the Roman Catholic Church to keep them out of Heaven.

His mind is made up and wants nothing to do with the Truth from the Holy Spirit because he has Mary for his God. Mwc68 is totally convinced that Mary can allow him to enter into Heaven while keeping the True Christians out of Heaven.

He has put his total trust in Mary as his God and will never change.

You are correct on one thing in this whole goofy statement. I won't change. The hatred I've seen here has convinced me I'm in the right place!

 

[mwc68]

Its a waste of time showing mwc68 the Truth from God because all he does is trample on the Word of God.

His agenda is to bring the lies of Satan to people to deceive them into joining the Roman Catholic Church to keep them out of Heaven.

His mind is made up and wants nothing to do with the Truth from the Holy Spirit because he has Mary for his God. Mwc68 is totally convinced that Mary can allow him to enter into Heaven while keeping the True Christians out of Heaven.

He has put his total trust in Mary as his God and will never change.

You are correct on one thing in this whole goofy statement. I won't change. The hatred I've seen here has convinced me I'm in the right place! I'm not taught to hate anybody, especially other Christians!

 

[KenAllan]

Mwc68 will never accept any Truth from God.

For a person to know the Truth and then behave contrary to that Truth is the very definition of stupid!

 

[IrishRC]

"And Jesus went from thence, and retired into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
And behold a woman of Canaan who came out of those coasts, crying out, said to him: Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David: my daughter is grieviously troubled by the devil.
Who answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying: Send her away, for she crieth after us:
And he answering, said: I was not sent but to the sheep that are lost of the house of Israel.
But she came and adored him, saying: Lord, help me.
Who answering, said: It is not good to take the bread of the children, and to cast it to the dogs.
But she said: Yea, Lord; for the pups also eat of the crumbs that fall from the table of their masters.
Then Jesus answering, said to her: O woman, great is thy faith: be it done to thee as thou wilt: and her daughter was cured from that hour."
Matthew 15:21-28

A very important and powerful message is within this Bible passage. It matters not to Jesus whether the woman was a Jew, or whether or not you're Catholic, or another of the many Christian faiths,
it was her own personal faith in Him and ours as well, that will get you where you need to be in life and the hereafter.

If you search for the definition of Catholic, you will find this:
Cath·o·lic
\ˈkath-lik,*ˈka-thə-\
noun
Full Definition
1: a person who belongs to the universal Christian church
2: a member of a Catholic church; a Roman Catholic

A Christian is defined as:
Chris·tian
'krisCHən/
adjective
Full Definition
1: of, relating to, or professing Christianity or its teachings.
"the Christian Church"

informal

having or showing qualities associated with Christians, especially those of decency, kindness, and fairness.

noun
Christian; plural noun:*Christians
1: a person who has received Christian baptism or is a believer in Jesus Christ and his teachings.

Throughout these seven pages of postings, spanning at least eight months, all that I've read, has left me with a very heavy and saddened heart. Jesus taught love and acceptance, forgiveness for our fellow man. There is none of that here, or none that I can see.

I will close my lengthy post with my favourite Bible verse,

"If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you." John 15:18

 

[MarcR]

I, and many other believers, believe that the Bible is the absolute standard of truth; and that ANYTHING that contradicts the Bible is a lie or an error.

The Catholic church teaches many things that are contrary to the Bible.

Among what I consider most important of these teachings:

Jesus, in the Bible, teaches Love your enemies. The Catholic Church has a history of crusades, inquisition, and burning at the stake. If a Christian is a follower of Jesus' teachings; then the Catholic Church, by its conduct, is not.

 

[Ahwatukee]

I, and many other believers, believe that the Bible is the absolute standard of truth; and that ANYTHING that contradicts the Bible is a lie or an error.

The Catholic church teaches many things that are contrary to the Bible.

Among what I consider most important of these teachings:

Jesus, in the Bible, teaches Love your enemies. The Catholic Church has a history of crusades, inquisition, and burning at the stake. If a Christian is a follower of Jesus' teachings; then the Catholic Church, by its conduct, is not.

Good day MarcR!

As I'm sure that you already know, Rome, with her pagan Babylonian religious system is the woman who rides the beast, Mystery Babylon.

The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth.

At the time that John was receiving that information from the angel, Rome was that city that ruled over the kings of the earth, which is meant to point us to her pagan system that has evolved.

The seven heads you saw are seven hills upon which the woman sits.

Rome is that city that was literally built on and is famous for her seven Hills.

She was dressed in purple and scarlet.

These are the exact base colors worn by the Catholic liturgy.

Should we go on to that Egyptian obelisk sitting out in St. Peter's square, Mary worship, queen of heaven worship, the ritual of the Eucharist and their worship of it, sacraments, purgatory, indulgences, and so much, much more. She is paganism wearing Christian clothing while hiding right out in plain site. Satan and his minions must be doing a good job, since there are over 1.2 billion Catholics.

 

[Mec99]

The one main false Doctrine the Catholic Church teaches is that God who created everything did not have the ability to keep Christ Jesus free from sin. The Catholic Church teaches that Mary, being without sin, keep Christ Jesus free from Sin.

But who keep Mary free from sin? The Catholics claim God keep Mary free from sin.

I find it interesting that God had the power to keep Mary free from sin but yet had no power to keep Christ Jesus free from sin.

What the Catholics have done is elevate Mary above God.

This i believe is why the Catholics see nothing wrong with Worshiping and Serving Mary as their God.

This is the main reason why the Catholic Church today is not a Christian church following God.

 

[Magenta]

The one main false Doctrine the Catholic Church teaches is that God who created everything did not have the ability to keep Christ Jesus free from sin. The Catholic Church teaches that Mary, being without sin, keep Christ Jesus free from Sin.

That is definitely an egregious error. The other thing they will consistently fail to address on this specific issue is how, if Mary needed to be sinless in order that Jesus be born sinless, so too would every matriarch in the line of Mary, in order to assure the sinlessless of Mary. Error compounds error. Wouldn't Eve have to have been sinless in such a scenario?