Why does God oppose Judaizing?

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Whispered

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I will attempt to provide you with Biblical truth one more time and then it is your decision to drink muddy water or the clean living water of life. At least I know that when we meet Yeshua you will not be able to say to Him you didn’t know because nobody told you so. :)

Preparation for Pesach started on 10 Aviv/Nissan when the father of the household brought the lamb to the high priest for investigation. Yeshua came through the gates five days before His crucifixion to be scrutinised and investigated for any flaws. None could be found and he was the worthy Passover Lamb for our sins.

Day 1 (Pesach - was 3 days)
On the morning of 14 Aviv the feast started when the lamb was being prepared for slaughter. Roughly about that time our King was being prepared to be crucified. By 3 o’clock the lamb was slaughtered and had to be eaten in full by 6 o’clock that evening. Yeshua died on the cross by 3 o’clock and had to be in the grave by 6 o’clock because the following day was the Sabbath. None of lamb’s bones should be broken and we know none of Yeshua’s bones were broken.

On the same day Yeshua was being crucified history teach us that more or less 200 000 lambs were slaughtered on Pesach.

Day 2 (Feast of unleavened bread started)
The Feast of Unleavened bread started on 15 Aviv (Friday evening 6 o’clock) and is the Sabbath day. The feast is seven days long and Yeshua is our unleavened bread because He is without sin. Leaven is also a symbol for sin. Yeshua is our bread of life and was born in Bethlehem which consist of two words ‘Bet Lechem’ which means in Hebrew House of Bread.

Day 3 (First fruits)
First fruits started on 16 Aviv and Yeshua was our firstfruit of the harvest. On first fruits, Barley was waived before God so that the harvest would be accepted. Yeshua was our first fruit presented to Abba Father. This was the Sunday and the resurrection of our King.
Pentecost is then 50 days after first fruits and that is when our King went up into heaven.

The first four feasts was fulfilled during Yeshua’s first coming and the last three feasts will be fulfilled with His second coming." (Source)
If Jesus was crucified on Passover, why had He and His Disciples already eaten the Passover meal?"

God bless guys
"On the same day Yeshua was being crucified history teach us that more or less 200 000 lambs were slaughtered on Pesach." Source?

Further, the Bible tells us Jesus was crucified on the Day of Preparation for the Passover. The Book of John chapter 19:14
Why then had Jesus and His Disciples already partaken of the Passover meal in the upper chamber?
 

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There is zero evidence that Mary Magdalene was the adulteress in the Gospel of John 8:3-11, though it is a Roman Catholic teaching...
Please prove it. That it is a "Catholic teaching".
I've lurked at Catholic discussion forums and the one thing that is asserted most often in this question of Mary's identity as a Prostitute, is that no Theologian affiliated with the RCC teaches that.

As per Miryam/Mary Magdalene: Some think the Magdalene was the woman in Luke 8 from whom demons were cast out by Jesus, was the accounting in John 8 of men ready to stone the unnamed woman, being immorality was the grave offense for which that punishment was deemed warranted. It could be the bridge of connection between those two accounts, as we know the Synoptic Gospels were originally anonymous, and were also different perspectives "recorded" of those who witnessed Jesus and His ministry.
One could then surmise the bridge would then be that the demons in Luke 8 are what caused the unnamed woman in John 8 to be found worthy of death for the charge of moicheuō. Possibly unnamed because Miryam had already been named previously in Luke. And the wording in verse 2 of Luke 8 refers to her healing in past tense.
Further in Luke it was a number of women who had been healed from evil spirits and illnesses. Jesus traveled with these women in His company. Perhaps the thought is that the prior encounter with them, or one, such as Miryam , was what is recorded in John 8.
The Book of Luke chronology is 63A.D. , while John's is 85A.D and is more historically detailed than the Synoptic Gospels. (Matthew, Mark, Luke)
Perhaps the idea that the unnamed woman in one account was Miryam in the other is due to this reason.

μοιχεύω (moicheuō)
Strong: G3431

GK: G3658

trans. to commit adultery with, debauch, Mt. 5:28; absol. and mid. to commit adultery, Mt. 5:27; Jn. 8:4; to commit spiritual adultery, be guilty of idolatry, Rev. 2:22
 

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It amazes me that people who want to deny the law of the Lord get their kicks out of lying about the people who love the law. They keep chanting about them wanting to earn their salvation by obeying the law, without a shred of evidence of their claim.
It amazes me that you continue to post oblique accusations and don't have the intestinal fortitude to call out anyone directly.

Either call me a liar, and back it up with evidence, or don't even hint at it.
 

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my personal opinion is that they are deceived and the blind leading the blind

notice when you finally understand what is going on with them, they become nasty and smear your words that are straight from the Bible

reminds me of the snake in the garden with the fake 'has God really said'...they will attach to the person who tries to show them their error, the deceit they suffer from themselves

no cure

unless God in His mercy bends down and wakes them up, there is no cure

and they do damage and will have answer for that

itching ears are apparently attached to all kinds of people
Great analogy. The snake told Eve she was not like God unless she sinned against him, but God had made them in his image, so they were like God; until they sinned against him.
 
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Great analogy. The snake told Eve she was not like God unless she sinned against him, but God had made them in his image, so they were like God; until they sinned against him.
I started realizing some years back, that the same basic question is being asked over and over

'Has God really said?'

people twist scripture, try to put words in God's mouth and try to get you to question what you actually know is true

this thread for example, this shaky snaky imitation of the word

someone with 0 ability to put 2 verses together, let alone 2 testaments, wants to teach people that 'nope. God did not say what you think He said about His Son. Here is what He really meant ... it is the meaning they twist, unlike God who says what He means and means what He says. He does not need the smoke and mirrors of errors in this thread being repeated by at least 2 people

anyway, best not to get me started on deception and lying
 

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I started realizing some years back, that the same basic question is being asked over and over

'Has God really said?'

people twist scripture, try to put words in God's mouth and try to get you to question what you actually know is true

this thread for example, this shaky snaky imitation of the word

someone with 0 ability to put 2 verses together, let alone 2 testaments, wants to teach people that 'nope. God did not say what you think He said about His Son. Here is what He really meant ... it is the meaning they twist, unlike God who says what He means and means what He says. He does not need the smoke and mirrors of errors in this thread being repeated by at least 2 people

anyway, best not to get me started on deception and lying
You bring food to the table dear sister...
You are fruitful , I love fruit , and I love truth...
You shine the Light on the darkness and expose it for what it is , just thought I would reveal what is on my heart to you...
...xox...
 
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This is so funny… we need to stop making bad excuses not to be obedient. My wife worked 6 days a week (including the Sabbath) and we prayed to God change that. God opened doors and she is now fulltime in charity work (no Sabbath work anymore)… it didn’t happen overnight but God came through in His time. We need to trust God to guide us in life and open doors.
Good for her and God isn’t going to condem or look down upon those who sabbath a day of rest is Thursday.

Laugh all you want and judge it as a bad excuse, like I said hot air or half baked I think I’m understanding you now.
 
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I've read your remarks repeatedly and correctly. The reason I ask for proof of what you claim the pastor stated in his video? Is because as you are unaware, YouTube often provides Transcripts with videos. As is the case with his. There is no such thing as you claim in his presentation. And now you're rewording in this later post what you stated initially about stoning. That happens when what you claim isn't actually there. It is difficult to keep up the false witness when the truth does not need someone to work to recall it.
Cheers.
I’m not playing in your game
 
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I won't seek it out however, in fairness to 7, they did say they believe the Ten Commandments/Ten Words of God still hold. Though it would appear they do not believe the Sabbath day still holds.

The Sabbath was never changed to Sunday. Therefore, the Sabbath remains to fall from sundown Friday unto Sundown Saturday. I think you'll enjoy this video because this Pastor touches on all the arguments we've read in threads of this nature. When the Bible never says the Sabbath was changed to the first day of the week,is man entitled to change what God decreed as His day of rest. A day made for us?
The Catholic church changed the Sabbath day to Sunday. For all the animus for Catholic practice in the world, it would be contrary to that to then follow the RCC dictate of Sunday as Sabbath. (More in video)

What did Jesus say? The Book of Matthew chapter 5:19 So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Whispered said:
I've read your remarks repeatedly and correctly. The reason I ask for proof of what you claim the pastor stated in his video? Is because as you are unaware, YouTube often provides Transcripts with videos. As is the case with his. There is no such thing as you claim in his presentation. And now you're rewording in this later post what you stated initially about stoning. That happens when what you claim isn't actually there. It is difficult to keep up the false witness when the truth does not need someone to work to recall it.
Cheers.

At about 3:15 into the video breaking the sabbath was punishable by death, the author even quotes the exodus, was this abolished.

check the manuscript to the video like you said twisted whispered.

cheers no thank you I don’t drink
 

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:( You're in a Christian forum on the Bible Discussion Board, (Forum = BDF) . Your answer tells me you've been playing games for quite awhile.
Hmm yea your reaching for anything viper, go get your drink on cheers
 

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It amazes me that you continue to post oblique accusations and don't have the intestinal fortitude to call out anyone directly.

Either call me a liar, and back it up with evidence, or don't even hint at it.
Dear Blik, do not let yourself fall for this. If you call someone out directly, you can, likely will, be reported. And that can resort in discipline.
 
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Dear Blik, do not let yourself fall for this. If you call someone out directly, you can, likely will, be reported. And that can resort in discipline.
Why would quote one person and talk to someone else in the same post strange ways you have, like thank you for the post but let me bash you in another highly deranged
 

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Whispered said:
I've read your remarks repeatedly and correctly. The reason I ask for proof of what you claim the pastor stated in his video? Is because as you are unaware, YouTube often provides Transcripts with videos. As is the case with his. There is no such thing as you claim in his presentation. And now you're rewording in this later post what you stated initially about stoning. That happens when what you claim isn't actually there. It is difficult to keep up the false witness when the truth does not need someone to work to recall it.
Cheers.

At about 3:15 into the video breaking the sabbath was punishable by death, the author even quotes the exodus, was this abolished.

check the manuscript to the video like you said twisted whispered.
So citing OT scripture is the man saying what you claimed here:
If the sabbath is still to be practiced then the killing of those who don’t practiced it still stands as well.
the man in the video even mentions it yet he will never stone anyone for not obeying it. his words are hot air. sounds all cushy but it’s mushy talk half baked reasoning. Did God abolished the stoning of people who don’t rest from labor on Saturday
A poorly worded sentence, but I get it. The rest of your charge against him for referencing the OT scripture denotes lack of reading scripture in the New Testament. (NT)
He didn't mention the punishment because it no longer applies since the coming of Christ. 17."For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. " The Book of John chapter 1
As to your hate speech toward me, ad homs, personal attack, are your burden as the sin compounds with each of your subsequent posts.

Children of God
The Book of 1st John 3:5.But you know that Christ appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6No one who remains in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has seen Him or known Him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous.…
Berean Study Bible


cheers no thank you I don’t drink
Well, we know you're not British. Cheers is Brit. slang for a number of salutations. In the case of my post it was a way of saying, thanks.
"Bangers and Mash"!

I can only imagine, since Cheers invited a Yank slur. :ROFL: God loves me.
 
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So citing OT scripture is the man saying what you claimed here:

A poorly worded sentence, but I get it. The rest of your charge against him for referencing the OT scripture denotes lack of reading scripture in the New Testament. (NT)
He didn't mention the punishment because it no longer applies since the coming of Christ. 17."For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. " The Book of John chapter 1
As to your hate speech toward me, ad homs, personal attack, are your burden as the sin compounds with each of your subsequent posts.

Children of God
The Book of 1st John 3:5.But you know that Christ appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6No one who remains in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has seen Him or known Him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous.…
Berean Study Bible


Well, we know you're not British. Cheers is Brit. slang for a number of salutations. In the case of my post it was a way of saying, thanks.
"Bangers and Mash"!

I can only imagine, since Cheers invited a Yank slur. :ROFL: God loves me.
Cheers is basically a toast salutations before consuming acholol.

I didn’t charge him with anything but one thing saying death was a punishment for not obeying the sabbath, then I said he wouldn’t stone anyone I’m using what was the law about it. maybe I should of said gun someone down or knife them or hang them or many others I could of said about putting a person to death. so yea I’m convinced you like to twist it Astro project among other things.
 
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You bring food to the table dear sister...
You are fruitful , I love fruit , and I love truth...
You shine the Light on the darkness and expose it for what it is , just thought I would reveal what is on my heart to you...
...xox...

thanks Rosemary

I appreciate your kind words
 
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There’s one thing vastly different from you and me Whispered you will openly post and say someone else is doing the sinning, yea the burdens is on me. I don’t hate you and it’s not hate speech though you seem to believe I’m hating on you.