Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

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Nat2019

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Noose said:
Jesus said His command is not burdensome; i mean, He had to say that several times but still some think that we have to rest from His command?! The command to love one another is not even a burden at all. Trusting in the finished works of Jesus basically means to obey His commands which are not burdensome.
We don't obey so that we get saved but we obey so that we abide in salvation (Him) which came for everyone.
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If we say we know him and don't keep his commandments WE ARE LIARS AND THE TRUTH ISNT IN US.
1 John 2:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

So if someone is saying they know him and "doesnt keep his commandments" they are a liar and the truth is not in them.

if someone from OSAS says-

they know God but dont keep his commandments are they-

1."covered by the blood, forgiven for future sins etc",
2. Liars without the truth in them.

I am not trying to personally direct this in an offensive way, but in a way you might understand.
 
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Ruby123 said:
Good thanks but the internet signals have gotten worse in WA don't you think. So slow on my laptop. Are you having the same problem?
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Hi Ruby I hope I didnt offend you😊. I know I probably could have. But I personally dont have anything against you, I think you seem like a nice person. I just want to get the truths I have found out to others. Even though they might offend some people. 😞
 
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Nat2019 said:
If we say we know him and don't keep his commandments WE ARE LIARS AND THE TRUTH ISNT IN US.
1 John 2:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

So if someone is saying they know him and "doesnt keep his commandments" they are a liar and the truth is not in them.

if someone from OSAS says-

they know God but dont keep his commandments are they-

1."covered by the blood, forgiven for future sins etc",
2. Liars without the truth in them.

I am not trying to personally direct this in an offensive way, but in a way you might understand.
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How can they be saved if they have no truth?

someone who has eternal life WILL be obedient ( not perfect)
 
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Nat2019 said:
Hi Ruby I hope I didnt offend you😊. I know I probably could have. But I personally dont have anything against you, I think you seem like a nice person. I just want to get the truths I have found out to others. Even though they might offend some people. 😞
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No Nat I am not offended at all. I have been having trouble with the internet for the past few days and it frustrates me 😰😰
 
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Ruby123 said:
No Nat I am not offended at all. I have been having trouble with the internet for the past few days and it frustrates me 😰😰
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I am glad Ruby. Maybe you should change to another internet provider or chat on your phone.
 
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Nat2019 said:
If we say we know him and don't keep his commandments WE ARE LIARS AND THE TRUTH ISNT IN US.
1 John 2:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

So if someone is saying they know him and "doesnt keep his commandments" they are a liar and the truth is not in them.

if someone from OSAS says-

they know God but dont keep his commandments are they-

1."covered by the blood, forgiven for future sins etc",
2. Liars without the truth in them.

I am not trying to personally direct this in an offensive way, but in a way you might understand.
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Correct. There's no such thing as faith without obeying God's command.
 
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Nat2019 said:
I like this scripture 😁
2 Timothy 4:7
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.
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1 Corinthians 13:13
So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Ruby123 said:
No Nat I am not offended at all. I have been having trouble with the internet for the past few days and it frustrates me 😰😰
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It is rough when this happens,, when it slows down drives you crazy..lol
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
What is false about it?
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This for starters........

In short, one must believe on Jesus Christ for salvation. Eternal life is not just an instant gift and a present tense possession (Jn 6:47; 1 Jn 5:11-13). Eternal life is also a hope (Titus 3:7) yet to be reaped (Gal. 6:8,9), in the age to come (Mk. 10:30) for only the ones who persist in doing good (Rom. 2:7) and don't grow weary and give up sowing to please the Spirit (Gal. 6:9)!

Eternal life is also a promise for the Christians who hold on to the gospel truth they heard from the beginning to remain in Christ and the Father (1 Jn. 2:24-26).
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https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/
 
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Ruby123 said:
Yeah esp when they have just updated the whole system. It seems worse than before.
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Dont that just make you mad? Lol it is supposed to be better!
 
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Nat2019 said:
Thanks for posting this on this thread. 😉Now others can see it. It means to gospel is being spread now😆. I have done my work for the day😏
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There is no "Good News" there Ms. Nat :(
 
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There is no "Good News" there Ms. Nat :(
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There was good news for me finding this site. So i believe there will be for others as well. It has taught me what it means to live like a true Christian. I have finally found what true Christianity means. I know it probably doesn't make sense to you why someone would want to believe or follow these kinds of beliefs. But if you were in my shoes you would understand😉.
 
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Nat2019 said:
There was good news for me finding this site. So i believe there will be for others as well. It has taught me what it means to live like a true Christian. I have finally found what true Christianity means. I know it probably doesn't make sense to you why someone would want to believe or follow these kinds of beliefs. But if you were in my shoes you would understand😉.
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There is only one TRUTH and while there are many ideas that may bring comfort for a time in they end they always run dry.
 
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UnderGrace said:
There is only one truth and while there are many ideas that may bring comfort for a time in they end they always run dry.
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One truth doesnt apply to all. OSAS have a different truth to those who dont believe in OSAS because we don't have the same view of the bible. So ONE truth isnt really one truth to everyone. Both you and I have different beliefs on what the "truth" is.
 
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