Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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There is a big difference in being a peace maker and pushing appeasement for the sake of religious unity..........people fail to understand the absolute truth that there are numerous diameterically opposing views and gospels on this site.....vast religious differences and too be frank there is a war on this site between truth and lies....that which is biblical and that which is as false as can be....one of the biggest errors is to believe that just because SOMEONE claims Christ that they are of GOD and biblical....two cannot walk together u less agreed.....
A peace maker cannot make peace between truth and lies or true and false......the sword of the truth DIVIDES and cuts ASUNDER......AND that was the point I was making.....the wheat WILL be seperated from the chaff and the end is near....by compromising the truth through appeasement the truth LOSES every time....!!!
A peace maker cannot make peace between truth and lies or true and false......the sword of the truth DIVIDES and cuts ASUNDER......AND that was the point I was making.....the wheat WILL be seperated from the chaff and the end is near....by compromising the truth through appeasement the truth LOSES every time....!!!
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Yes, I agree. Share with us how you understand this chapter of love........
1 Corinthians 13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
1 Corinthians 13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
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Fire in this verse is not for testing like in corinthians It not 1 cor 12 but 1 cor 3
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Fire in cor test your fruit, or your work burn or not. Gold not burn oN fire.
Fire in John burn the branch, the branch is us. And Jesus say I am the vine you are the branch
Branch is you not your work.
In 1 cor your work Being burn
In John 15 you the branch Being cast to fire If not bear fruit.
To say John 15 burn your work is out of contact and accuse Jesus lie
This is what Jesus say
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Is Jesus say the branch is your work? Or He say the branch is you.
He say he that abide in Me, and I in him the same bring th forth much fruit
The fruit of Holy Spirit is love
Is that possible a man abide in Him but No love? I do not know, but according to Jesus in this verse, If a man abide in Him Will produce fruit or love.
I believe He never Lie
If you read according Tom the context
Fire in cor is a tester for your work , not hell
Fire in John is hell
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Fire in cor test your fruit, or your work burn or not. Gold not burn oN fire.
Fire in John burn the branch, the branch is us. And Jesus say I am the vine you are the branch
Branch is you not your work.
In 1 cor your work Being burn
In John 15 you the branch Being cast to fire If not bear fruit.
To say John 15 burn your work is out of contact and accuse Jesus lie
This is what Jesus say
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Is Jesus say the branch is your work? Or He say the branch is you.
He say he that abide in Me, and I in him the same bring th forth much fruit
The fruit of Holy Spirit is love
Is that possible a man abide in Him but No love? I do not know, but according to Jesus in this verse, If a man abide in Him Will produce fruit or love.
I believe He never Lie
If you read according Tom the context
Fire in cor is a tester for your work , not hell
Fire in John is hell
Oh, dc, I think you have a chain to your hamster wheel. I love you dearly, your soul is very precious to me.
No, Yeshua/Jesus brings the Love of God to us, NOT theological truth.
No, Yeshua/Jesus brings the Love of God to us, NOT theological truth.
For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ.
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Oh, dc, I think you have a chain to your hamster wheel. I love you dearly, your soul is very precious to me.
No, Yeshua/Jesus brings the Love of God to us, NOT theological truth.
No, Yeshua/Jesus brings the Love of God to us, NOT theological truth.
J I Packer
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This modern Kum Ba Yah attitude and let's just all love each other is not of God......We exercise the Love of God through the truth and the truth cuts, divides asunder, separates and ONLY UNITES WHEN BOTH PARTIES place themselves UNDER it's banner...........one of the biggest detriments to the Lord's churches in our age IMV......
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