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God's Word was Broken, Humiliated, Tried illegally, beaten beyond Human comprehension, Had nails driven thru His Hands and Feet, died an Appeasement Death on a Tree...... He was Broken so that People could Obtain Eternal Life, this God's Word, the Son of Man, Jesus the Christ, God manifest in the flesh. broken to shivers, the Cup He took according to the Father's will, indeed... God uses Broken Vessels, Humble in spirit and Truth, but Full of Power, as He walked .... INdeed!
And He/she shall rule them with a Rod of Iron; as the Vessels of a Potter shall they be Broken to Shivers: even as I Received of My Father.
Revelation 2
Jason your Zeal for the Truth, literally blinds you to the Truth, the difference between the LOGOS and the LIVING LOGOS.. indeed!
man will always fail you. man will always disappoint you. man cannot save you, let alone even himself.
call on yahweh (GOD) , trust in yahshua. seek HIS FACE (forgotten in today's world and religions and forums)
get a copy of the rsv and read it from genesis to revelation over and over again (not necessarily in order) and
ask
GOD to explain the TRUTH TO YOU. if HE has mercy on you, HE WILL.
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what HE gives you, no man can take away. (remember, HE has conditions(for which you must TRUST HIM, which it is ALWAYS GOOD TO DO - LIFE! LIFE ! LIFE! YES YES YES IN YESHUA! )
call on yahweh (GOD) , trust in yahshua. seek HIS FACE (forgotten in today's world and religions and forums)
get a copy of the rsv and read it from genesis to revelation over and over again (not necessarily in order) and
ask
GOD to explain the TRUTH TO YOU. if HE has mercy on you, HE WILL.
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what HE gives you, no man can take away. (remember, HE has conditions(for which you must TRUST HIM, which it is ALWAYS GOOD TO DO - LIFE! LIFE ! LIFE! YES YES YES IN YESHUA! )
My fiance lives in Brazil. So I know about the differences in language. My point is that you cannot go to Brazil and say certain bad words and not expect people to get upset. Yes, if you said a bad word in Brazil here that may not be a bad word here, then that is different if you used that word in harmless way as a part of every day communication. But if you were to swear at a person here in America using a Brazil word, it is one's hate within one's heart attached to that word that God is going to condemn that person for. Also, to ignore the consideration of others when speaking to them in certain words that might offend them is not loving or Christian. That's kind of the point. So no. If you use cuss words around others that people know to be bad, it is wrong.
Jesus said you are defiled by what comes out of your mouth.
Jesus said you are defiled by what comes out of your mouth.
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someone tell me what is wrong with this interpretation. There are errors in this version. which keep us from getting the WHOLE PICTURE of what the conversation between Jesus and Peter had. Can anyone tell us what the problem is? (besides the odd spellings)
Taken from the famed 1611 KJV which is ironic, because all KJV advocates claim we should use this version, but non of them actually do.
John 21:
[SUP]15[/SUP] ¶ So when they had dined, Iesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, sonne of Ionas, louest thou mee more then these? He saith vnto him, Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I loue thee. He saith vnto him, Feed my lambes.
[SUP]16[/SUP] He saith to him againe the second time, Simon sonne of Ionas, louest thou me? He saith vnto him, Yea Lord, thou knowest that I loue thee. He saith vnto him, Feed my sheepe.
[SUP]17[/SUP] He said vnto him the third time, Simon sonne of Ionas, louest thou mee? Peter was grieued, because hee saide vnto him the third time, Louest thou me? And he said vnto him, Lord, thou knowest all things, thou knowest that I loue thee. Iesus sayth vnto him, Feed my sheepe.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Uerily, verily I say vnto thee, whē thou wast yong, thou girdedst thy selfe, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carie thee whither thou wouldest not.
[SUP]19[/SUP] This spake hee, signifying by what death he should glorifie God. And when he had spoken this, he sayth vnto him, Follow me.
Taken from the famed 1611 KJV which is ironic, because all KJV advocates claim we should use this version, but non of them actually do.
John 21:
[SUP]15[/SUP] ¶ So when they had dined, Iesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, sonne of Ionas, louest thou mee more then these? He saith vnto him, Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I loue thee. He saith vnto him, Feed my lambes.
[SUP]16[/SUP] He saith to him againe the second time, Simon sonne of Ionas, louest thou me? He saith vnto him, Yea Lord, thou knowest that I loue thee. He saith vnto him, Feed my sheepe.
[SUP]17[/SUP] He said vnto him the third time, Simon sonne of Ionas, louest thou mee? Peter was grieued, because hee saide vnto him the third time, Louest thou me? And he said vnto him, Lord, thou knowest all things, thou knowest that I loue thee. Iesus sayth vnto him, Feed my sheepe.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Uerily, verily I say vnto thee, whē thou wast yong, thou girdedst thy selfe, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carie thee whither thou wouldest not.
[SUP]19[/SUP] This spake hee, signifying by what death he should glorifie God. And when he had spoken this, he sayth vnto him, Follow me.
This is just silly. The words are still the same despite the change in font type. For we have to realize that in the 1600's: There was no standarization of any spelling yet and the printing process was not perfected yet, either. The 1769 was the final update of the 1611 that would fit a world that had changed in how it communicated. But there is no actual change in the message behind the words, though. They still meant the same thing back then as they do today.
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Did you read?
I said the error was not the odd spellings. or type used. As usual you do not read what people say so you stick your foot in your mouth.
Like to try again? There are errors which prevent us from actually seeing the context, and depth of the conversation.
ps. you will have to look at the greek to find the errors.
I said the error was not the odd spellings. or type used. As usual you do not read what people say so you stick your foot in your mouth.
Like to try again? There are errors which prevent us from actually seeing the context, and depth of the conversation.
ps. you will have to look at the greek to find the errors.
Not even sure I can put my foot in my mouth. I am flexible and limber but not that flexible. Besides, you would have trust what some guy's interpretation on the Greek says in order for you to be right. So no. There are no errors unless you want there to be errors. For how do you know that the guy you are trusting with the Greek is not wrong? The short answer is that you don't know. Which is the point.
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Jason...forgive me! But u post you're Brazilian fiance? P!ease love her then....then why do you even argue? If I was in love..…all the light would break thru grey? Why don't u post the love u feel for ur Brazilian fiancé.? I'd love to know? For I am a love poet? Why must we breaths disagreement? When Jesus died for love? Yessss!
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well you did put your foot in your mouth, no matter how hard it is (like how hard it is to read someone and come back with a reply like you did. especially when I states your reply was not the problem)
now to the problem.
the first two times, Jesus uses the greek word phileo ( a lower form of the word love) the third time, jesus uses the highest form of love "AGAPE" and peter could only reply by saying lord you know I "Phileo" you.
of course, you do not care that there is a hugely significant point being made here, which can not be made properly in the English language. so to you, this is insignificant, but I am sure to God. who wrote it, it makes a HUGE difference.
When I say God's Word cannot be broken I was referencing Scripture. Do you know what Scripture that is? Do you want to explain that verse in what it means? Yes, there are three different Words described in Scripture. The Living Word of God (Jesus), the Written Word of God (Scripture), and the Spoken Word of God.
However, you are sadly mistaken if you think the Written Word has been broken and that it will not endure forever.
However, you are sadly mistaken if you think the Written Word has been broken and that it will not endure forever.