Why Learn the Old Testament
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My own understanding is the "Gate" promised to Abraham to be possessed by his descendants is our Lord, Yeshua.
Those who consider the Laws of Torah as the Old Testament, in my humble esteem, are more hung up on the law than what they accuse others of, for the promise to Abraham, being our Salvation, is the same witness from Abraham until Christ's transfiguration. Promise completed and fulfillment of Moses and the Prophets, amen.
I love all the Word, and I believe it, though complete understanding is not something I may claim. Just enough to be content with the Word.
Those who consider the Laws of Torah as the Old Testament, in my humble esteem, are more hung up on the law than what they accuse others of, for the promise to Abraham, being our Salvation, is the same witness from Abraham until Christ's transfiguration. Promise completed and fulfillment of Moses and the Prophets, amen.
I love all the Word, and I believe it, though complete understanding is not something I may claim. Just enough to be content with the Word.
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2nd Timothy 3:11) Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 .) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 .) But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 .) But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 .) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 .) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 .) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
At the time Paul wrote this, there was NO NEW TESTAMENT in PRINT...........so WHAT SCRIPTURES doya think he was speaking of?................hmmmmmmm
2nd Timothy 3:11) Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 .) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 .) But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 .) But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 .) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 .) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 .) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
At the time Paul wrote this, there was NO NEW TESTAMENT in PRINT...........so WHAT SCRIPTURES doya think he was speaking of?................hmmmmmmm
Foreshadows and types follow the one making the shadow. If someone (Yeshua) is standing in front of the sun and they are casting a shadow, if you are coming to him, what are you going to enter first? His shadow. When you understand His shadow (feasts and observances) and you continue in it, where does it lead you? To His feet. That’s what the commandments are designed to do.
I don't think you can understand the NT without an understanding of the OT. Not a legalistic understanding, a rote understanding, but knowing the spiritual meaning of what it says. We are so separated from the culture of the people used to illustrate the spiritual that we need recent discovered history of those people to better understand. They lived almost 6,000 years ago.
For instance: what does saved by the blood of Jesus mean? We need to know what the shadow of the blood meant to fully understand. What does water mean in the spiritual sense that the NT talks of? We need to know what water meant in the OT to see how it was brought forward. Christ is our high priest, and what does it mean to us that He is our high priest? Again, we need to know what the OT says about the priest that went before Christ to fully understand.
Christ changed many things, but the spiritual principles of God stay the same, all of God is in the words "I am". God is one, God is eternal, God never changes. Scripture is a unit, telling of our God.
For instance: what does saved by the blood of Jesus mean? We need to know what the shadow of the blood meant to fully understand. What does water mean in the spiritual sense that the NT talks of? We need to know what water meant in the OT to see how it was brought forward. Christ is our high priest, and what does it mean to us that He is our high priest? Again, we need to know what the OT says about the priest that went before Christ to fully understand.
Christ changed many things, but the spiritual principles of God stay the same, all of God is in the words "I am". God is one, God is eternal, God never changes. Scripture is a unit, telling of our God.
I do as I see led to, do you need some for what? I do not, nor does anyone in all in all, for that can and many does lead to pride, and forsakes humility, in thinking one knows and by that pride does not
Yet am glad to give you rep Brother, why? Because I do sense and know you do care, seeing waht you see from your side on the bus ride we all are in to learn and grow in Father's miraculous love
Yet am glad to give you rep Brother, why? Because I do sense and know you do care, seeing waht you see from your side on the bus ride we all are in to learn and grow in Father's miraculous love
Tell me, how would we know that God loves us, without the Law of Moses to show us our needs?
Will you have a child, and not teach the Child by rules, Laws, letting the child know why what you say to do is what is best for that Child.
If the Child is left on it's own, how will it learn?
I am not talking about being literal, I am talking Spiritual. Yet it takes to listen as when I ate Ten Reeses Peanut butter cups and got sick. I was told not to, yet I could eat one and did not listen, got sick
Father came to me and looked at me and said you ate more than one didn't you?
I said yes now scared as well as being sick, thinking I was going to be punished, When Father then said no I need not punish you, you already punished you, being Sick
I turned and learned to listen.
Is that not what we are all learning from Father, to listen and thus do?
Will you have a child, and not teach the Child by rules, Laws, letting the child know why what you say to do is what is best for that Child.
If the Child is left on it's own, how will it learn?
I am not talking about being literal, I am talking Spiritual. Yet it takes to listen as when I ate Ten Reeses Peanut butter cups and got sick. I was told not to, yet I could eat one and did not listen, got sick
Father came to me and looked at me and said you ate more than one didn't you?
I said yes now scared as well as being sick, thinking I was going to be punished, When Father then said no I need not punish you, you already punished you, being Sick
I turned and learned to listen.
Is that not what we are all learning from Father, to listen and thus do?
The Second Testament is the fulfillment of first from day one, Father is Merciful and clothed them. Then put them out to learn, truth from the error that they took on being like God knowing right from wrong
Reading it all is very insightful, if God permits, please Father permit as you see fit, for you have your reasons for those that are blinded to your amazing love, that has never changed. Just many different views that claim you are not righteous, when you are and this battle is one playing God, as if they are God and are as in knowing Good and evil, yet unfortunately picking evil selfishness in killing off others whether by word or deed to survive, which keeps one in death,
selfishness is what we all are guilty of you think?
Reading it all is very insightful, if God permits, please Father permit as you see fit, for you have your reasons for those that are blinded to your amazing love, that has never changed. Just many different views that claim you are not righteous, when you are and this battle is one playing God, as if they are God and are as in knowing Good and evil, yet unfortunately picking evil selfishness in killing off others whether by word or deed to survive, which keeps one in death,
selfishness is what we all are guilty of you think?
The Law that is not fulfilled yet is in those that still need it to come to belief in the finished work of our Savior Jesus Christ. Complete as in seeing this truth it is finished
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, Itisfinished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
What he came to do he did, filled the Law and Prophets and then yelled out finished. what did this do by his death?
Colossians 1:22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Can I, you or anyone make us or anyone any Holier, is it possible?
So if you beleive this and just that and walk away, is there anything left to get after agreeing God has done? what it says God has done?
Does death bring life, or is death plain death? Is there life in death?
Or is the new life Christ came to give in the resurrected Christ?
Who resurrected Christ?
Who are we presented to as Holy =, thanks to Christ?
So what are we in need of?
So are we going to ask Father, or not for this new life in Spirit and truth?
Leaving us dead to flesh sin, where by the cross all sin has been condemned to? Romans 8:3, states so.
And even in Romans it states this:
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
His resurrected life in Spirit and truth, praying we all see this?
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, Itisfinished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
What he came to do he did, filled the Law and Prophets and then yelled out finished. what did this do by his death?
Colossians 1:22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Can I, you or anyone make us or anyone any Holier, is it possible?
So if you beleive this and just that and walk away, is there anything left to get after agreeing God has done? what it says God has done?
Does death bring life, or is death plain death? Is there life in death?
Or is the new life Christ came to give in the resurrected Christ?
Who resurrected Christ?
Who are we presented to as Holy =, thanks to Christ?
So what are we in need of?
So are we going to ask Father, or not for this new life in Spirit and truth?
Leaving us dead to flesh sin, where by the cross all sin has been condemned to? Romans 8:3, states so.
And even in Romans it states this:
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
His resurrected life in Spirit and truth, praying we all see this?
Your comment would have been better served IF YOU HAD TYPED "FULFILLED" IN BOLD LETTERS AND IN RED. Jesus DID FULFILL the LAW............ 