You falsely slander me. Nearly everything I post is scripture, which offends you @preacher4truth . You need to ask why this offends you?
Why the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not for Today
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And my response to Dave on the gifts is the very thing Dave is preaching. Dave posits that the Gifts are no longer in operation. So then if Dave believes the Gifts are no longer in operation then FOR DAVE the gifts are NO longer in operation. They can only operate by faith and since Dave has no faith in their operation they do not exist for him.
But hey, you want to jump into this conversation that isn't directed to you. And you get offended by my straightforward response to your original question, then lie about my response. Not very nice of you @preacher4truth .
But hey, you want to jump into this conversation that isn't directed to you. And you get offended by my straightforward response to your original question, then lie about my response. Not very nice of you @preacher4truth .
John 14
12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.
Dave, the issue being addressed here is I and most on this forum take these words above literally, and believe Jesus means it for all who would believe in Him. Not just for a sliver of time after Jesus left.
You have also heard testimony from others here of miracles witnesses by them personally, but you reject their first hand accounts of these miracles. I have personally been involved in Exorcisms and seen the effect of demons leaving and changed lives. But you will not believe us. Who is really judging who here?
12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.
Dave, the issue being addressed here is I and most on this forum take these words above literally, and believe Jesus means it for all who would believe in Him. Not just for a sliver of time after Jesus left.
You have also heard testimony from others here of miracles witnesses by them personally, but you reject their first hand accounts of these miracles. I have personally been involved in Exorcisms and seen the effect of demons leaving and changed lives. But you will not believe us. Who is really judging who here?
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me [not just Apostles, but every believer] , the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father (John. 14:12)
Because of our union with Christ, his works become our works. And the greater works he now performs ruling the nations of the world and all of nature, we share in by virtue of our being his body.
and He raised us up and seated us together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:6–7
Because of our union with Christ, his works become our works. And the greater works he now performs ruling the nations of the world and all of nature, we share in by virtue of our being his body.
and He raised us up and seated us together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:6–7
But you the one that ask me to defined 1000 years kingdom, and I think you believe It is spiritual kingdom, and how satan deceive spiritual man?
Spiritual man is only 2 nation
Godly spirit nation wich protect by God where satan not able to decieve anymore or satan spirit nation that allready been deceived and No reason for satan to deceived them again.
Spiritual man is only 2 nation
Godly spirit nation wich protect by God where satan not able to decieve anymore or satan spirit nation that allready been deceived and No reason for satan to deceived them again.
People brain dead or near brain dead can not serve God.
David did his exploits by faith. He exercised faith after he got anointed by samuel.
The key is in the anointing. Not baptist theory formulas.
After the anointing we recieve power. Faith comes in measure. Under the anointing faith rises.
Jesus told them to tary in Jerusalem to recieve the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said in essence "dont try ministry or a walk like mine without the Baptism in the Holy Spirit."
Jesus said "they will speak in tongues and cast out demons"
W h o? The 12?
Nope "they that believe"
ANYBODY SAVRD CAN GO TO THE UPPER ROOM.
What you are doing is disagreeing with Jesus.
"If yo being evil know how to give good gifts to your children, HOW MUCH MORE WILL THE FATHER GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT to those that ask"
What??
It was to anybody?
Yep
David did his exploits by faith. He exercised faith after he got anointed by samuel.
The key is in the anointing. Not baptist theory formulas.
After the anointing we recieve power. Faith comes in measure. Under the anointing faith rises.
Jesus told them to tary in Jerusalem to recieve the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said in essence "dont try ministry or a walk like mine without the Baptism in the Holy Spirit."
Jesus said "they will speak in tongues and cast out demons"
W h o? The 12?
Nope "they that believe"
ANYBODY SAVRD CAN GO TO THE UPPER ROOM.
What you are doing is disagreeing with Jesus.
"If yo being evil know how to give good gifts to your children, HOW MUCH MORE WILL THE FATHER GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT to those that ask"
What??
It was to anybody?
Yep
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