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At the time of Christ the word prophecy in reference to the Word of GOD, meant to proclaim HIS WORD WITHOUT ERROR.
2 Peter 1:19-21 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] So we have the prophetic word strongly confirmed. You will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dismal place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] First of all, you should know this: No prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, men spoke from God as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 3:15-16 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and you know that from childhood you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to give you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness,
2 Peter 1:19-21 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] So we have the prophetic word strongly confirmed. You will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dismal place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] First of all, you should know this: No prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, men spoke from God as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 3:15-16 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and you know that from childhood you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to give you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness,
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The scriptures is a guide, that we might see the unseen, seeing the scriptures is one thing but seeing meaning of the scriptured iis what is needed, as scriptures without the revelation of the meaning behind them, the scriptures would be of no effect. When one see the meaning behind the scriptures, then one shall be enlighten in understanding.
No, I told you the NON-LIBERAL Conservative Churches is what I meant by WE. Ordaining Women is a LIBERAL false doctrine, in our understanding of what the Scriptures actually TEACH; and is part of the FALLING AWAY from truth that is prophesied for the end times.
We are fully into the Laodicean Age, and lukewarm, watered down teachings of Liberalism, dominates the Church of this Age.
We are fully into the Laodicean Age, and lukewarm, watered down teachings of Liberalism, dominates the Church of this Age.
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Who told you such nonsense? This is philosophie out of man brain! Our should I say from a liar Spirit?
You realy believe that you please God by ignoring his word? There is no meaning behind the Scriptures! Everybody who believes that makes himself to the revealer of the scripture with the authority to say what is right ore wrong! I suppose we find this in the gnosis!
This is false teaching! If you realy believe that turn away from that and stop to deceive others!!
You realy believe that you please God by ignoring his word? There is no meaning behind the Scriptures! Everybody who believes that makes himself to the revealer of the scripture with the authority to say what is right ore wrong! I suppose we find this in the gnosis!
This is false teaching! If you realy believe that turn away from that and stop to deceive others!!
You are welcome 
Of course God was witness to the resurrection, it was His plan after all, but even that we are not told explicitly. Jesus did send Mary Magdalene as we see in Scripture:
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
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Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long
white garment; and they were affrighted.
6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.
*
Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.
8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.
9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
*
Luke 24 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8 And they remembered his words,
9 And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10 It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11 And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
The apostles were ALL doubting Thomasses. Mary Magdalene was also
a witness of the crucifixion, which many of the other disciples were not.
Of course God was witness to the resurrection, it was His plan after all, but even that we are not told explicitly. Jesus did send Mary Magdalene as we see in Scripture:John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
*
Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long
white garment; and they were affrighted.
6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.
*
Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.
8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.
9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
*
Luke 24 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8 And they remembered his words,
9 And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10 It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11 And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
The apostles were ALL doubting Thomasses. Mary Magdalene was also
a witness of the crucifixion, which many of the other disciples were not.
This is a genetic fallacy. Your other comments confirm it. Whether or not the ordination of women is biblically sound has nothing, fundamentally, to do with where the teaching originated. I would also add that since you have made the assertion, it is up to you to prove it... without resorting to logical fallacies.
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You are welcome Of course God was witness to the resurrection, it was His plan after all, but even that we are not told explicitly. Jesus did send Mary Magdalene as we see in Scripture:
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
*
Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long
white garment; and they were affrighted.
6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.
*
Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.
8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.
9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
*
Luke 24 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8 And they remembered his words,
9 And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10 It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11 And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
The apostles were ALL doubting Thomasses. Mary Magdalene was also
a witness of the crucifixion, which many of the other disciples were not.
Of course God was witness to the resurrection, it was His plan after all, but even that we are not told explicitly. Jesus did send Mary Magdalene as we see in Scripture:John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
*
Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long
white garment; and they were affrighted.
6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.
*
Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.
8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.
9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
*
Luke 24 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8 And they remembered his words,
9 And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10 It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11 And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
The apostles were ALL doubting Thomasses. Mary Magdalene was also
a witness of the crucifixion, which many of the other disciples were not.
1 Corinthians 2:6-16 (NIV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"--
[SUP]10 [/SUP] but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
We who have been confronting your strange twisted understandings of Scripture, are in AGREEMENT with each other on most of mainline Christianity's Theology. That is because we listen to the teachings of the SAME SPIRIT as described above.
Why do you suppose, we are rarely in agreement with you, Dagallen?
Could it be because you listen to a different spirit all together?
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I would say that I am not a part of any click but of course people who are a part of a click always stick together, I am an independent thinker, independent from the influence of any earthy man or woman, as I am only dependent on He who is above all, I am not interested in any religious click, that are a dime a dozen. So why do you rarely in agreement with me ? Religious clicks and myself, rarely have anything in common. You asked and I gave the answer.
Interesting, you are now calling the original mainline Christian Theology, a religious click instead of "sound doctrine"; and on top of that, you are proud of yourself for having separated from it.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
How is that not part of the FALLING AWAY?
Philippians 2:2 (NRSV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] make my joy complete: be of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.
Ephesians 4:11-13 (ESV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,
And now you and your movement pride yourselves in being an "independent thinker, independent from the influence of any earthy man or woman." Very unbiblical, but interesting, and it explains a lot.
2 Peter 1:20 (NKJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
What does the word discipleship mean to you ? ? ?
2 Thessalonians 2:3 (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
How is that not part of the FALLING AWAY?
Philippians 2:2 (NRSV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] make my joy complete: be of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.
Ephesians 4:11-13 (ESV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,
And now you and your movement pride yourselves in being an "independent thinker, independent from the influence of any earthy man or woman." Very unbiblical, but interesting, and it explains a lot.
2 Peter 1:20 (NKJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
What does the word discipleship mean to you ? ? ?
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Your problem is you don't even know that you're not of the mind of Christ or the mind of Paul and you think that your point of view is the majority view when it isn't unless of course you include the RCC, which would mean you'd have to accept their theological point of view, and many other things that are not sound doctrine.
FYI, people who are apostate don't hang around Christian Forums discussing Christian theology. The same cannot be said however of self-righteous Christians, and there are quite a few of you on this forum and this thread. Remember what Paul said;
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
That you keep misquoting scripture in order to condemn others, shows exactly where your heart is at and I suggest that you repent of your self-righteous and condemnation.
FYI, people who are apostate don't hang around Christian Forums discussing Christian theology. The same cannot be said however of self-righteous Christians, and there are quite a few of you on this forum and this thread. Remember what Paul said;
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
That you keep misquoting scripture in order to condemn others, shows exactly where your heart is at and I suggest that you repent of your self-righteous and condemnation.
Exactly what are you calling and meaning by genetic fallacy? We believe the Bible clearly forbids a woman from being in a position of Pastor or Teaching Elder in an Worship Service. WHY? Because it says so.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (HCSB)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] And if they want to learn something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church meeting.
1 Timothy 2:9-12 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
Are you are questioning that it is GOD's will that we have literal obedience to Paul's commands? That certainly would include for women to be Silent in the Church Service, and not even ask questions until they get home where they can ask their husband; and Paul's forbidding of a woman to be in a Teaching Elder role during a Worship Service. That too is very clear in Scriptures. What makes them a COMMAND from GOD?
2 Peter 1:19-21 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;
[SUP]20 [/SUP] knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 3:16 (GWT)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Every Scripture passage is inspired by God. All of them are useful for teaching, pointing out errors, correcting people, and training them for a life that has God's approval.
If you are questioning when the practice of ordaining women began, that is a matter of looking up Church History, but I remind you that there have always been Laodicean type Churches, but only in this final stage of the Church Age, are they becoming the dominant type of Church. PROOF that they will be the DOMINANT type of Church just before our Bridegroom sends the Archangel to call us to the Wedding of the Lamb, is in Mathew chapter 7.
Matthew 7:21-23 (NIV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
The MANY think they are Christians but they LACK the ongoing sense that they will always strive to OBEY HIM, because of the personal LOVE relationship they have established with JESUS CHRIST. They appear to fall from loving obedience, and sincere LOVE for HIM, but they never really had it in the first place.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (HCSB)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] And if they want to learn something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church meeting.
1 Timothy 2:9-12 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
Are you are questioning that it is GOD's will that we have literal obedience to Paul's commands? That certainly would include for women to be Silent in the Church Service, and not even ask questions until they get home where they can ask their husband; and Paul's forbidding of a woman to be in a Teaching Elder role during a Worship Service. That too is very clear in Scriptures. What makes them a COMMAND from GOD?
2 Peter 1:19-21 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;
[SUP]20 [/SUP] knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 3:16 (GWT)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Every Scripture passage is inspired by God. All of them are useful for teaching, pointing out errors, correcting people, and training them for a life that has God's approval.
If you are questioning when the practice of ordaining women began, that is a matter of looking up Church History, but I remind you that there have always been Laodicean type Churches, but only in this final stage of the Church Age, are they becoming the dominant type of Church. PROOF that they will be the DOMINANT type of Church just before our Bridegroom sends the Archangel to call us to the Wedding of the Lamb, is in Mathew chapter 7.
Matthew 7:21-23 (NIV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
The MANY think they are Christians but they LACK the ongoing sense that they will always strive to OBEY HIM, because of the personal LOVE relationship they have established with JESUS CHRIST. They appear to fall from loving obedience, and sincere LOVE for HIM, but they never really had it in the first place.
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A religious click does not apply to all just some, those who believe they are right on all scriptures and everyone else wrong, is a religious click or group. As no one is right all the time, just as no one is wrong all the time, as no one is perfect in understanding, a person who thinks they understand it all, speaks lies, who don't speak a sound doctrine at all. As there are many deceivers, who claim they speak a sound doctrine, to give the appearance of.
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