You Will Know Them By Their Fruits.

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eternally-gratefull

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I asked what that meant.
It means a person is in Christ, and eternal position based on Gods promise and grace. We are positionally set-apart, which is different fro the co ditto all sanctification which is ongoing every day,
 
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He never taught "sacraments" as a means of salvation.
I think you should look up what a sacrament is. He instituted the sacraments. He said baptize and to break bread . He said forgive or retain sins. These are sacraments. Jesus told us to do those things.
 
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It means a person is in Christ, and eternal position based on Gods promise and grace. We are positionally set-apart, which is different fro the co ditto all sanctification which is ongoing every day,
Ah.... Ok. Thank you eternally gratefull.
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I read this post as you referring to Jesus and the other men as examples of how they dealt with false teachings and hypocrites and not a direct comparison to yourself or anyone else.

Those examples demonstrate the fierceness of the battle and the need to reveal to people that they are indeed in opposition to truth.

"Jesus wept" ...... this tells me He would have much preferred a different reality and yet it did not stop Him from calling out those who opposed Him ... just as we desire people come to the knowledge of the truth.
100% agree.....and all we have are snippets of the life of Christ....I can rightfully assume he did not cut them any slack and in some way or form lit them up every day......but hey....Jesus must bave been mistaken when he said....IT IS ENOUGH THAT A DISCIPLE BE AS HIS MASTER.

Says alot about the Christianity being peddled today in the churches when a believer cannot use Christ, John the Baptist, Paul and or Elijah as examples of how we can engage deceivers and false teachers without having the above leveled at you by one that believes the bible!
 
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I am glad you compare yourself with these great men

But I would ask you

did they continually day after day after day say those things?

Of course not. What was said. Wipe the dust off your feet?

Sorry bro. I love ya but what has being going on is sad
All we have are snippets of the life of Christ....I can rightfully assume he did not cut them any slack and in some way or form lit them up every day......but hey....Jesus must bave been mistaken when he said....IT IS ENOUGH THAT A DISCIPLE BE AS HIS MASTER.

What is sad, is the type of Christianity being peddled that makes a snide mouthy response to another believer when they lift Christ, John the Baptist, Elijah or Paul up as examples of how to deal with deceivers, false teachers and peddlers of religion.....NOW that is what is truely sad.
 
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when you, or anyone for that matter, creates a response that is dismissive in the manner it suggests that you saw or see more than others, that is bragging of what you consider superior knowledge

in fact, you are basically just snickering around here



for example, your notation that the poster to whom you are responding has a 'bad mental habit' suggests your 'mental habits' are the ones to employ and you do not actually address the post in response to you, but use what I would call 'word decoys' while others might suggest you are creating little rabbit trails

kindly employ some of that superior brain of yours and show us which Bible verses or what passages illustrate your words
I'm sorry it's something I noticed and it comes from a theology that is founded on protest...founded on what is considered error. That isn't true(Catholics) this is.(protestants) It permeates conversations and clouds vision.
 
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It means a person is in Christ, and eternal position based on Gods promise and grace. We are positionally set-apart, which is different fro the co ditto all sanctification which is ongoing every day,
Ah. Good explanation thank you. I think of the word consecrated. Set apart for a sacred purpose.
 
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I'm sorry it's something I noticed and it comes from a theology that is founded on protest...founded on what is considered error. That isn't true(Catholics) this is.(protestants) It permeates conversations and clouds vision.
thin ice is not made thicker by excusing the cracks
 
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All we have are snippets of the life of Christ....I can rightfully assume he did not cut them any slack and in some way or form lit them up every day......but hey....Jesus must bave been mistaken when he said....IT IS ENOUGH THAT A DISCIPLE BE AS HIS MASTER.

What is sad, is the type of Christianity being peddled that makes a snide mouthy response to another believer when they lift Christ, John the Baptist, Elijah or Paul up as examples of how to deal with deceivers, false teachers and peddlers of religion.....NOW that is what is truely sad.
Look inside bro

You complain of snide mouthy responses yet if you look. Many believe you give those same type of responses yourself

How can you judge someone if mouthing it to you when you do it to them does that not make us a hypocrite?
your not the one I am really upset with the other two do it way More. You can be firm but that’s who you are. Some of the comments would be better left away but i Am sure You know this

The fact is when a group of people attack others it does not look good especially when all the remarks are added which do not help

It’s one thing to claim a gospel of woks is false. I am with ya

But the one everyone has been going at does not even consider herself a teacher she even admits this. She is sharing what she thinks. If you disagree disagree and explain why. But to attack her and call her names like you all have is out of line

As for the other two. I guess you can react like they do and be just as guilty as they are. Or you could show how a true believer does it and let them Be seen as guilty. Once again two wrongs do not make a right
 
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Ah. Good explanation thank you. I think of the word consecrated. Set apart for a sacred purpose.
Consecrated is not at all the same as sanctified...btw
 
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Look inside bro

You complain of snide mouthy responses yet if you look. Many believe you give those same type of responses yourself

How can you judge someone if mouthing it to you when you do it to them does that not make us a hypocrite?
your not the one I am really upset with the other two do it way More. You can be firm but that’s who you are. Some of the comments would be better left away but i Am sure You know this

The fact is when a group of people attack others it does not look good especially when all the remarks are added which do not help

It’s one thing to claim a gospel of woks is false. I am with ya

But the one everyone has been going at does not even consider herself a teacher she even admits this. She is sharing what she thinks. If you disagree disagree and explain why. But to attack her and call her names like you all have is out of line

As for the other two. I guess you can react like they do and be just as guilty as they are. Or you could show how a true believer does it and let them Be seen as guilty. Once again two wrongs do not make a right
Please just drop it.
You have made your feelings known.
Thank you.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Please just drop it.
You have made your feelings known.
Thank you.
I will drop it when I see some change. We all scream at preacher and others for doing this. It’s time we hold ourselves accountable!
 
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We all scream at preacher...for doing this. It’s time we hold ourselves accountable!
What's with this "we?" You may do it, don't take others with you and blame them. In other words? Own your behavior first, stop worrying about what others do, and then end your poor behavior. As of yesterday you were still on it, taking jabs at me personally. Weren't you? Yes, you were. I haven't read much of what you say since, but wouldn't be a bit surprised if it continues to this very day.

That said there is no need for you to be waiting for others to do what you continue doing yourself. Right?

And you seriously need to quit the obsessive worry and talk about me on here, you mention me quite often for no reason really in many posts.

No, you don't scream at me. Maybe you think you do, or maybe that's just showing how angry a person you are. That's must be it.

Here is what happens: You misrepresent me, falsely accuse me, take jabs at me incessantly while you have me on ignore (LOL!!) bully a person for liking my posts, shame her over it more than once, and still haven't substantiated your completely false accusation of slander. Remember that? Right? All you had was where I called you and DC out, and it wasn't slander, it was truth.

Then there is the notorious issue of you not owning the very things you say and teach, and instead deny them when shown these things. Not to mention a refusal to receive an offer to reconcile. Instead? Well, what did you do? Keep taking jabs at me? Yes.

That right there? A huge red flag. You need to change your behavior, and stop calling others out for what you continue.

Yes, it is you who needs to change, with this caveat:

How is all this "change" going to happen? Because you call others out for doing what you do?

Nope. It is owning yourself first and ending what YOU do. But this isn't going to change because you change your behavior because it will revert right back. Nope, that won't cut it. That kind of thing takes a change of a persons nature.
 

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Actually, you are an asset to this site as a regular frequent contributor to the forums. I always enjoy reading and considering your interesting perceptions and perspective.


it is great to have variety i might add. so many people to learn from here. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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it is great to have variety i might add. so many people to learn from here. :)
Iron sharpens iron.
I have learned much from listening to apposing views, in fact have seen my own error in being open.