Y'shua DID NOT die on a Friday!

[WomanLovesTX]

Wow! I still have a hard time believing my eyes and ears when I see someone state that Christ died on a Friday (I just read this remark of this in a different thread.) I was taught this foolishness from the church!!!!

You see, you must learn it for yourself, take the time to learn about Yah's 7 Appointments (and I know, I've heard soooo many say this is a Jewish thing or not worthy to understand because it is from the Old Testament) and you will know about the next day being a Sabbath.

Passover lamb is sacrificed on Nisan 14. Y'shua died on Nisan 14. He perfectly fulfilled Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread (Wave offering) and Pentecost. The 3 Appointments of Spring. (Note: Learn about the other 4 Appointments to know and understand how Y'shua will fulfill PERFECTLY the Fall Feasts.)

The next 7 days, Nisan 15 thru 21 is Feast of Unleavened Bread. Nisan 15 is a SABBATH! A day of commanded rest (and also the 21st, the 7th day.) In this, you still have the 7th day Sabbath. The first day of the week or the eighth day is always going to be what we call Sunday.

I personally believe the scholars are correct in their findings through biblical and astrological signs that Y'shua was born in September 3 BC. (Specifically 9/11...but that will be for another thread.) The year of His death would be 30 AD. In the year 30 AD, the Hebrew calendar (Hebrew Calendar) shows that Nisan 14 is Tuesday dark to Wednesday dark. Nisan 15 is Wednesday dark to Thursday dark. Y'shua was taken down from the cross and buried before sundown Nisan 14 because it was a SABBATH on the following day, a Thursday, Nisan 15th.

I am purposefully not giving scriptures because some really need to study Yah's Words through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. If you still believe that Y'shua could have died on a Friday and that in 1 1/2 days and nights He resurrected, then all I can say is you don't believe Him, (you take the church's false theology over Yah's Word) and by emphatically stating that He died on a Friday are calling Him a liar and you don't know how to count to three. Perhaps that means some are Cretins.

I feel righteously indignation at the wolves who are leading the sheep off the path and down some rabbit holes that are in la la land. No! It is Satan and He rules this world and beware of teachers and journalists who come out of their schools mouthing and repeating mindlessly stupid, obvious error/lies, knowing that must people will not question inconsistency.

Will you question inconsistency and seek truth?

 

[JaumeJ]

Christ, Yeshua, was taken down from the cross before sunset because it was unlawful to leave Him on the cross during Shabat. He rose from the dead after three days, yom sheni, or Monday. He rose on Monday, or all the prophets were in error, and I do not believe they were. I thank Elohanu that people believe the deed He performed, and rely on His Blood for their salvation. I came to Him as Jesus, but I know His mother and Joseph called Him Yeshua, and I am almost certain all of His disciples did also.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Christ, Yeshua, was taken down from the cross before sunset because it was unlawful to leave Him on the cross during Shabat. He rose from the dead after three days, yom sheni, or Monday. He rose on Monday, or all the prophets were in error, and I do not believe they were. I thank Elohanu that people believe the deed He performed, and rely on His Blood for their salvation. I came to Him as Jesus, but I know His mother and Joseph called Him Yeshua, and I am almost certain all of His disciples did also.

And so you are sticking with Friday? plus adding to the Words that when the two Mary's came to the grave on the first day of the week that the first day of the week is now on a Monday. Wow! Did you look up the word cretin?

 

[JaumeJ]

And so you are sticking with Friday? plus adding to the Words that when the two Mary's came to the grave on the first day of the week that the first day of the week is now on a Monday. Wow! Did you look up the word cretin?

If you count from the 6th day, that would be Friday before sunset, three days would be Monday. Three days and three nights. Now this would be incorrect if it were not stated that the Sabath was approaching and Jesus had to be taken down according to Jewish law. Now, I will not ask you to look up any derogatory words, rather I would like your explanation. As for it being the first day, the calendar was totally changed by several Roman leaders and Constantine. The first day to them could easily be Monday. I am quite well aware that Yom rishon is what is now called Sunday, at least until sunset. Please do not resort to implied name calling in this forum. God bless all in Yeshua, Jesus Christ, amen.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

If you count from the 6th day, that would be Friday before sunset, three days would be Monday. Three days and three nights. Now this would be incorrect if it were not stated that the Sabath was approaching and Jesus had to be taken down according to Jewish law. Now, I will not ask you to look up any derogatory words, rather I would like your explanation. As for it being the first day, the calendar was totally changed by several Roman leaders and Constantine. The first day to them could easily be Monday. I am quite well aware that Yom rishon is what is now called Sunday, at least until sunset. Please do not resort to implied name calling in this forum. God bless all in Yeshua, Jesus Christ, amen.

Ok. No slang for Christian. What does 6 days have to do with the day of His death, Nisan 14?

 

[Laodicea]

To make a doctrine all verses must be taken into account
Matthew 16:21
(21) From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Matthew 17:23
(23) And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
Matthew 20:19
(19) And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Matthew 27:64
(64) Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
Matthew 12:40
(40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

We cannot base any doctrine on one verse alone or we will be in error. There are more verses this is just a small sample. Get a concordance and type in third day

 

[JaumeJ]

Ok. No slang for Christian. What does 6 days have to do with the day of His death, Nisan 14?

As far as I have learned, no one knows the exact date Christ was crucified. This is my fault for coming to share my understanding after having been asked. I withdraw any contention on this subject lest I be guilty of that particular sin. You are a very learned woman, so I will not dispute with you, nor anyone for that matter. I pray you find peace in Yeshua crucified, for this is all we need to know. If I pursue this, I may fall under the auspices of creating another doctrine, and I am not here for that. God bless you in the path He has given you, always in Jesus Christ, amen.

 

[SantoSubito]

As usual I'm going to go with the traditional view that Christ died on Good Friday and rose on Easter Sunday.

 

[resurrection33]

Is it important what day Jesus died on?

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Is it important what day Jesus died on?

The date is extrememly important. Nisan 14 - The actual date the Israelites where told to celebrate Passover on, every year, since leaving Egypt. And praise Yah, the Jews continued to celebrate it on Nisan 14. The absolutely amazing thing about the date is that on this very date that Y'shua was crucified....AS OUR FINAL SACRIFICIAL PERFECT LAMB OF GOD! The final sacrificial lamb that saves the whole world for their sins. He died and resurrected, as prophecied, and fulfilled prophecy 100%.

The timing and the fulfillment of prophecy is extremely important. Had Y'shua died any other date and in other fashion, then the Word of God would be found to be false. Satan is alive and well, however, causing millions of people to believe the lie that Y'shua was not in the grave for 3 nights and 3 days when He was in fact, buried 3 nights and 3 days and resurrected on the third day. Satan has the churches believing in celebrating Easter...a pagan holiday and a pagan diety and SUBSTITUTING THE TRUTH. Satan has millions of people scratching their head and going, "Oh well, it doesn't matter if we can't understand how things happened....we just know it did."

The point is THE TRUTH REALLY DOES SET YOU FREE. Are you free from "doubts" and "confusion"?

I truly believe that most people are "brainwashed" with the repeating of a lie over and over again that it becomes hard to have self thinking and reasoning. I also believe it is important for me to do the best I can to help wake the church up!

It is ok to say the wolves are leading the sheep astray and it is ok to disassociate yourself from those who insist on perpetuating the lies.

Please, please, please...question the date and it's validity!

 

[SantoSubito]

The date is extrememly important. Nisan 14 - The actual date the Israelites where told to celebrate Passover on, every year, since leaving Egypt. And praise Yah, the Jews continued to celebrate it on Nisan 14. The absolutely amazing thing about the date is that on this very date that Y'shua was crucified....AS OUR FINAL SACRIFICIAL PERFECT LAMB OF GOD! The final sacrificial lamb that saves the whole world for their sins. He died and resurrected, as prophecied, and fulfilled prophecy 100%.

My understanding of what you wrote however means that the date you propose only works if we accept 3 BC as the birth of Christ. If Christ's birth was later or earlier than it's all thrown out of wack since 14 Nisan would fall on a different date on the Hebrew Lunar calendar.

The timing and the fulfillment of prophecy is extremely important. Had Y'shua died any other date and in other fashion, then the Word of God would be found to be false. Satan is alive and well, however, causing millions of people to believe the lie that Y'shua was not in the grave for 3 nights and 3 days when He was in fact, buried 3 nights and 3 days and resurrected on the third day. Satan has the churches believing in celebrating Easter...a pagan holiday and a pagan diety and SUBSTITUTING THE TRUTH. Satan has millions of people scratching their head and going, "Oh well, it doesn't matter if we can't understand how things happened....we just know it did."

Just so you know the only area in the Roman Empire that had a pagan celebration on Easter was the Celts in England. In every other country that was in the Roman Empire Easter is known as Pascha (a Greek form of Passover), and in Germany it's simply known as Ostern (springtime). It helps if you look outside the Anglo-phone world
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[WomanLovesTX]

My understanding of what you wrote however means that the date you propose only works if we accept 3 BC as the birth of Christ. If Christ's birth was later or earlier than it's all thrown out of wack since 14 Nisan would fall on a different date on the Hebrew Lunar calendar.

Yes, there is science, history and even the use of biblical astrology that pinpointed Y'shua's birth and the "scholars" are just those who put a lot of time and energy in "details". Not a coincidence that Nisan 14, 30 AD would fall on a Tuesday dark, thus fulfilling 100% all prophecy that Y'shua was 33 years of age.

However, 27 AD, 31 AD, 34 AD and 37 AD also on the posted Hebrew Calendar fall on a Tuesday dark, but I personally have not found that the historical evidence (the particular Herod who was in rule being the main clue) indicates these other dates.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Just so you know the only area in the Roman Empire that had a pagan celebration on Easter was the Celts in England. In every other country that was in the Roman Empire Easter is known as Pascha (a Greek form of Passover), and in Germany it's simply known as Ostern (springtime). It helps if you look outside the Anglo-phone world

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I've done quite a bit of studying on Easter, but I thank you for the information. In fact, "a Greek form of Passover" is something I don't remember, so I'll do some research on that one.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Correction - I said biblical astrology and meant "astonomy" in above post.

 

[Andrew]

umm I cant vote against the statements if I choose to..... hmmm.

 

[SantoSubito]

I've done quite a bit of studying on Easter, but I thank you for the information. In fact, "a Greek form of Passover" is something I don't remember, so I'll do some research on that one.[/QUOTE]

I knew about it from Byzantine Eastern Catholic churches, which celebrate Easter Sunday as "Paschal Sunday"

 

[Avinu]

Christ, Yeshua, was taken down from the cross before sunset because it was unlawful to leave Him on the cross during Shabat.Almost, it's unlawful for someone to hang from a tree period after sundown.

He rose from the dead after three days, yom sheni, or Monday. He rose on Monday, or all the prophets were in error, and I do not believe they were. I thank Elohanu that people believe the deed He performed, and rely on His Blood for their salvation. I came to Him as Jesus, but I know His mother and Joseph called Him Yeshua, and I am almost certain all of His disciples did also.

Here is where people miss alot because of not knowing about the feasts. Passover, Yeshua had the last supper with the disciples, which was on a tues. evening. on wed. He was crucified, and as Luke 23:53-54 to paraphrase, He was prepared for burial for this was preperation day for the Sabbath. This was the beginning of the feast of Unleavened Bread. The first and last day (It's a 7 day feast) are called High sabbaths. They are treated the same as a normal Sabbath. Lev. 23:7-8. This is why so many have had confusion with what day Yeshua was buried, because of lack of knowledge of the feasts. The church has done many wrong in this manner. There is no way Yeshua could have rose on Mon. because that is the 2nd day of the week, and as scripture says and calendars prove, at dawn of the first day of the week, they found the tomb empty. Which was sunday. Remember, according to scripture in Genesis ch. 1. God starts the day at sundown. So Tues, at sundown to wed. sundown was Passover, wed. sundown started the first day of Unleavened Bread which was a sabbath, so three days and nights, bring to sundown sat. night after regular sabbath, and at dawn sunday morning the tomb was already empty. I hope this helps brother. Shalom

 

[JaumeJ]

Here is where people miss alot because of not knowing about the feasts. Passover, Yeshua had the last supper with the disciples, which was on a tues. evening. on wed. He was crucified, and as Luke 23:53-54 to paraphrase, He was prepared for burial for this was preperation day for the Sabbath. This was the beginning of the feast of Unleavened Bread. The first and last day (It's a 7 day feast) are called High sabbaths. They are treated the same as a normal Sabbath. Lev. 23:7-8. This is why so many have had confusion with what day Yeshua was buried, because of lack of knowledge of the feasts. The church has done many wrong in this manner. There is no way Yeshua could have rose on Mon. because that is the 2nd day of the week, and as scripture says and calendars prove, at dawn of the first day of the week, they found the tomb empty. Which was sunday. Remember, according to scripture in Genesis ch. 1. God starts the day at sundown. So Tues, at sundown to wed. sundown was Passover, wed. sundown started the first day of Unleavened Bread which was a sabbath, so three days and nights, bring to sundown sat. night after regular sabbath, and at dawn sunday morning the tomb was already empty. I hope this helps brother. Shalom

I think I am going to give up on this one. My teacher, not the Rabbi, taught the manner I have explained, and now, after reading the poster's version, and your learning, I am not going to adhere to any one's declarations on the actual day of the crucifixion of Christ, Yeshua, I will simply claim the Blood of His great and loving deed. It is my understanding that no man knows the exact day Yeshua was crucified, whether it was a Wednesday, which is not known, a Thursday, which is not known, etc. No one is truly certain of the year Yeshua was born, and so on. I have heard so many convincing explanations by so many individiuals much wiser than I, so, again, now I simply will observe the deed. May Elohanu bless all in Yeshua, amen.

 

[loveme1]

The day he died to be the sacrifice for us, Salvation comes from not knowing the day, but by knowing that he did.
By knowing that Almighty Yahweh our God sent his son Yeshua to be the sacrifice for our sin, so the price of sin is not death if we accept this gift of redemption.

 

[Laodicea]

Mark 15:42
(42) And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,
Luke 23:54
(54) And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

Preparation is the 6th day, The Sabbath is the 7th day, and Jesus rose on the 1st day

Exodus 16:22
(22) And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.

This text shows that the 6th day is preparation day.