Y'shua DID NOT die on a Friday!

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superdave5221

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Indeed it is.

Matt 12:40) for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

It is religious tradition that has Jesus crucified on "Good" Friday and being raised "Easter" Sunday.

...I know you disagree. There's no point arguing about it.

God bless.
Amen brother, go in peace. God bless you as well.
 
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Please forgive me, I don't mean to sound arrogant AT ALL. But if you all read what I wrote, then you all would see the discrempancy. Most of you are missing(which the OThread has) that there is a feast in the whole thing. Feast of unleavened bread. What is confusing you all is the verse talking about preperation for sabbath, which is not a regular sabbath, but one of the feast sabbaths as I showed on my other only other post on this thread. This is the source of you all confusion. I will repost my post below. It will give you the scripture that explains Feast of Unleavened Bread.


Here is where people miss alot because of not knowing about the feasts. Passover, Yeshua had the last supper with the disciples, which was on a tues. evening. on wed. He was crucified, and as Luke 23:53-54 to paraphrase, He was prepared for burial for this was preperation day for the Sabbath. This was the beginning of the feast of Unleavened Bread. The first and last day (It's a 7 day feast) are called High sabbaths. They are treated the same as a normal Sabbath. Lev. 23:7-8. This is why so many have had confusion with what day Yeshua was buried, because of lack of knowledge of the feasts. The church has done many wrong in this manner. There is no way Yeshua could have rose on Mon. because that is the 2nd day of the week, and as scripture says and calendars prove, at dawn of the first day of the week, they found the tomb empty. Which was sunday. Remember, according to scripture in Genesis ch. 1. God starts the day at sundown. So Tues, at sundown to wed. sundown was Passover, wed. sundown started the first day of Unleavened Bread which was a sabbath, so three days and nights, bring to sundown sat. night after regular sabbath, and at dawn sunday morning the tomb was already empty. I hope this helps brother. Shalom

Also for those who say we can't know what day Yeshua died on the cross is also not true. All is needed is paying attention to what scripture says, since it makes clear and says that the tomb was empty sunrise the first day of the week. It is quite easy to figure out what day He was put in the tomb.

WomanlovesTx, great job on your Original Thread. :)
 

JaumeJ

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Uuuh.......Okay. so your saying he died Thur? Okay say he died on Fridayi on what ever given time you want to make from that point and add 24 hours, thats 1 day.
You know this, I know this, and most others know this. If someone has been convinced otherwise, that is quite outrageous, however there is no way to convince someone who has tunnel vision.l.l.l.l. Christ crucified really is all we need to know, all of this about the day is simply temporal facts, and they are used to keep the Children away from their incumbent duty to worship Jesus, God, amen. Jesus is so good, or do you call Him Yeshua?
 

WomanLovesTX

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Here is where people miss alot because of not knowing about the feasts. Passover, Yeshua had the last supper with the disciples, which was on a tues. evening. on wed. He was crucified, and as Luke 23:53-54 to paraphrase, He was prepared for burial for this was preperation day for the Sabbath. This was the beginning of the feast of Unleavened Bread. The first and last day (It's a 7 day feast) are called High sabbaths. They are treated the same as a normal Sabbath. Lev. 23:7-8. This is why so many have had confusion with what day Yeshua was buried, because of lack of knowledge of the feasts. The church has done many wrong in this manner. There is no way Yeshua could have rose on Mon. because that is the 2nd day of the week, and as scripture says and calendars prove, at dawn of the first day of the week, they found the tomb empty. Which was sunday. Remember, according to scripture in Genesis ch. 1. God starts the day at sundown. So Tues, at sundown to wed. sundown was Passover, wed. sundown started the first day of Unleavened Bread which was a sabbath, so three days and nights, bring to sundown sat. night after regular sabbath, and at dawn sunday morning the tomb was already empty. I hope this helps brother. Shalom

AMEN Avinu, the Feast SABBATH (Nisan 15th - Feast of Unleavened Bread) is as you stated a High Sabbath. Before I studied the 7 Appointments, I too was a gullible believer of what my church taught that Y'shua died on a Friday. One only needs to take the time to study the Feasts and they too will know that this is Yah's Richness and Depth and fulfilled only in Y'shua.

I'm going to post a new thread for the 7 Appointments for 2012.

1) Passover Sacrifice (Pesach) - Nisan 14 - April 6, 2012
2) Feast of Unleavened Bread - Nisan 15 - 21 - April 7 thru 13, 2012
3) Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) - Sivan 6 - May 27, 2012
4) Feast of Trumpets - Tishri 1 - September 17, 2012
5) Day of Atonement - Tishri 10 - September 26, 2012
6) Feast of Tabernacles - Tishri 15 - 21, October 1 thru 7, 2012
7) The Eighth Day - Tishri 22, October 8, 2012

Hebrew Calendar

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superdave5221

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You know this, I know this, and most others know this. If someone has been convinced otherwise, that is quite outrageous, however there is no way to convince someone who has tunnel vision.l.l.l.l. Christ crucified really is all we need to know, all of this about the day is simply temporal facts, and they are used to keep the Children away from their incumbent duty to worship Jesus, God, amen. Jesus is so good, or do you call Him Yeshua?
I agree with you, the most important thing is to recognize Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, who died on the cross for us, was raised by the power of God on the third day, and sits at the right hand of God as ruler over all the earth. He is our Lord, Savior, and King, which also implies obedience. However....

There is a more sinister point that they are trying to make, and that is that we are still under the Mosaic Law, and must abide by it. In other words, Christ did not die to fulfill the Law.

They believe that the New Covenant is nothing more than the old covenant, adapted to include Gentiles. That would be like the U.S. having a treaty with Japan, and adapting it to include Iran. Any treaty that included both parties would be a NEW treaty, not an adaptation of the old one.

As should be apparent by Acts 15, this type of teaching, that says that we are still under the Jewish Law is divisive and dangerous to the Church of Christ.

I am beginning to think, however, that my concerns are overstated. I don't really expect too many people in this forum, who are grounded in the truth to be deceived.
 
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AMEN Avinu, the Feast SABBATH (Nisan 15th - Feast of Unleavened Bread) is as you stated a High Sabbath. Before I studied the 7 Appointments, I too was a gullible believer of what my church taught that Y'shua died on a Friday. One only needs to take the time to study the Feasts and they too will know that this is Yah's Richness and Depth and fulfilled only in Y'shua.
Unfortunately, many think they can figure it all out by just reading the NT. And they are so arrogant about it. But what breaks my heart is they miss out on the true richness of Yeshua through these feasts and the glory and joy of YHVH in them as well. Not to mention the fact that scripture proves the feasts will be kept during millenial reign. But at that time Yeshua will be on the earth ruling and no one will be able to talk their way out of it. For as it says in Zech. the nations that don't come up for Sukkot, no rain will fall on there land.



I'm going to post a new thread for the 7 Appointments for 2012.

1) Passover Sacrifice (Pesach) - Nisan 14 - April 6, 2012
2) Feast of Unleavened Bread - Nisan 15 - 21 - April 7 thru 13, 2012
3) Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) - Sivan 6 - May 27, 2012
4) Feast of Trumpets - Tishri 1 - September 17, 2012
5) Day of Atonement - Tishri 10 - September 26, 2012
6) Feast of Tabernacles - Tishri 15 - 21, October 1 thru 7, 2012
7) The Eighth Day - Tishri 22, October 8, 2012

Hebrew Calendar
This would be awesome, unfortunately there will only be a handful that will appreciate it. But I would LOVE to see it on here. I'm sure you have it covered, but if you need any help, let me know. Shalom
 
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SantoSubito

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Matt 12:40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Three days and three nights denotes three 24 hour periods. You may be able to finagle three days between Friday and Sunday, but there is no way to squeeze in three nights.

I agree that Christ died on Wednesday and was resurrected on Saturday.
To steal from Laodicea's post the Gospels pretty much always simply mention it as three days not three days and nights, in fact I believe Matthew is the only one that does both.

Matthew 16:21
(21) From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Matthew 17:23
(23) And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
Matthew 20:19
(19) And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Matthew 27:64
(64) Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
Matthew 12:40
(40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Strictly interpreting Matthew 12:40 to mean three literal days and nights would then make the other verses I posted wrong. Because if Christ was in the Earth for three days and nights that means he would have rose on the fourth day, and not the third.
 

superdave5221

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To steal from Laodicea's post the Gospels pretty much always simply mention it as three days not three days and nights, in fact I believe Matthew is the only one that does both.

Matthew 16:21
(21) From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Matthew 17:23
(23) And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
Matthew 20:19
(19) And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Matthew 27:64
(64) Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
Matthew 12:40
(40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Strictly interpreting Matthew 12:40 to mean three literal days and nights would then make the other verses I posted wrong. Because if Christ was in the Earth for three days and nights that means he would have rose on the fourth day, and not the third.
Excellent point!
 
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SantoSubito

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Forgot to add one thing Mark 16:9 is also quite explicit as to the day Christ rose.

9Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
 
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Laodicea

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Matthew 12:40
(40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Mark 8:31
(31) And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

The 3 days may begin from the time that Jesus was taken in the garden, because in the text above He mentions that He must suffer, be rejected and killed and rise after 3 days.

That would mean the 3 nights are:-
1. Thursday Night
2. Friday Night
3. Saturday Night

The 3 days would be:-
1. Friday
2. Saturday
3. Sunday


 
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dishchat

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David said in psalms 16 vs 10: For you will not leave me among the dead; you will not allow your belove one to rot in the grave. Corruption occurs at about 72 hours after death.When Jesus said 3 days and 3 night, he had to raised before corruption takes place. It is a laps of time. He died on friday because the juif prepared them for sabbath, he raised on sunday the day after sabbath.
 
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...The 3 days may begin from the time that Jesus was taken in the garden, because in the text above He mentions that He must suffer, be rejected and killed and rise after 3 days.

That would mean the 3 nights are:-
1. Thursday Night
2. Friday Night
3. Saturday Night

The 3 days would be:-
1. Friday
2. Saturday
3. Sunday
so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

"It may mean this or it could mean that". Sheesh.

Just read what it says.
 

iamsoandso

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#53
look forward,,, a bit,,,,john 20;26,,,,"after eight days",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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Laodicea

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Jesus mentioned the sign of Jonah, Jonah was alive in the whale
 
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How do you know that?

I believe Jonah was dead. As Christ was. For three days and three nights.
There is nothing in scripture that indicates in anyway shape or form that Jonah was dead.
 
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dishchat

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How do you know that?

I believe Jonah was dead. As Christ was. For three days and three nights.
Jonah prayed to the Lord his God inside the fish
 
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There is nothing in scripture that indicates in anyway shape or form that Jonah was dead.
There is nothing that says he remained alive.

He was in the flooded stomach of a whale for three days. I believe he was dead. As Christ was.
 
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Before he died.
This is called assumption, you have absolutely no proof, nor does scripture indicate this. It doesn't work that way. We know Yeshua died, it says so, but it doesn't say Jonah died, nor when the fish spit him on the beach, does it say he came back to life. If that were the case it would have said so.