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Cako53

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That is true but at school thats all they are teaching have sex use birth controls and condoms. Some kids parents don't educate them so they don't know any better. Just think about it :)
We are supposed to be different from the everyone else. To not conform to the world.
 

Kathleen

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Ummm........ coming from a guy?! b.s. It's not healthy for something that young to have a child. Things happen especially at parties when everyone's drunk. You have to have a little sympathy.
I am not trying to tstart annother debate or anything but if someone was drunk that is a sin - i have no sympathy
for them to have sex and not be married - is a sin ( fornacation) i have no sympathey .

whats wrong with it comming from a guy?

If it is unhealthyt for a child of 13 to have a baby it is also not mentt for them to have sex - its there own doing and therefore its there own fault.
 
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Cako53

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He doesnt Get rid of it because He is long suffering. He has us here to Glorify Him on earth and to Proclaim His name.
I find this argument pointless. I find your ideas stupid and I don't agree with it. Is honestly making me upset because I find it VERY offensive, so I'm done.
 
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Phoenix

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Hold on I want to find out. How am I being offensive?
I'm not sarcastic.
I'm not mocking
I'm not cussing or dissing?
what is it?
In fact I have not said anything about your theology.
and you have called my ideas stupid. isnt that offensive?
 
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Cako53

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Hold on I want to find out. How am I being offensive?
I'm not sarcastic.
I'm not mocking
I'm not cussing or dissing?
what is it?
Because I find what you are saying offensive. that the loving God predestined me to heaven or hell. And I know that you are going to say who are you to judge how the almighty God works. But I have been brought up a lot different than you apparently and I just find this offensive to how I have been raised, so I am done talkinga bout this.
 
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Phoenix

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O.K. then
just remember though God has more attributes than just love.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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I am not trying to tstart annother debate or anything but if someone was drunk that is a sin - i have no sympathy
for them to have sex and not be married - is a sin ( fornacation) i have no sympathey .

whats wrong with it comming from a guy?

If it is unhealthyt for a child of 13 to have a baby it is also not mentt for them to have sex - its there own doing and therefore its there own fault.
here's some ideas! 1. not everyone is a Christian
2. we all sin
That's the problem with many Christians and it sounds like you are one of them that's been raised in a Christian home and intolerant of anyone who's not Christian. I believe we a Christian's should be the most sympathetic to other people. Its not any more of a sin than lying, being rude, which we all do. Am I correct?
 
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Cako53

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O.K. then
just remember though God has more attributes than just love.
I never said he didnt. what about whosoever believes in me? shall have eternal life?
 
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tryingtofindhim

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Because I find what you are saying offensive. that the loving God predestined me to heaven or hell. And I know that you are going to say who are you to judge how the almighty God works. But I have been brought up a lot different than you apparently and I just find this offensive to how I have been raised, so I am done talkinga bout this.
I agree. Calvinism is not Biblical at all.
 
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Phoenix

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I never said he didnt. what about whosoever believes in me? shall have eternal life?
I thought you said you were donediscussing. but ok if you want to keep discussing dont get angry.

John 3:16 a lot of people like that one thinking it is referring to the whole world.
when it is not it is reffering to the different nations. remember the jews were God's chosen people first. then Salvation came to the gentiles(us) so thats why it says whosoever because salvation used to be for the Jew only
 
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Cako I so enjoy your way with words and your dedication to the Lord, you are a fine young man!

to other posters in here... I'm thinking one of you has had an abortion and this is the reason for the rigid defense of abortion??? I'm just guessing here but need to let you know that if that is the case, you need to repent of this instead of justifying it, allow the Lord to heal you so you can move forward and yes... discontinue sexually imoral activity. Abortion is not birth control. If you are Christian then you need to abstain. If you are not Christian you need to abstain, repent and receive the saving grace of Jesus as Lord. There are reasons for God's instruction on not being sexually imoral. Instead of being defensive and justifying murder I would recommend repentance that you be washed by the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ for the blood of your child. Hey, maybe I got it all wrong, maybe you just have a friend in mind as you post... if so, tell her to repent... give her this advise.
 
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Phoenix

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I agree. Calvinism is not Biblical at all.
It is if you research old church history(before catholicism) arminism was a heresy. the early church(though not called calvinist.calvin was not born at this time but they believed in the same doctrines) Its everywhere. Old testament ane new
 
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tryingtofindhim

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I thought you said you were donediscussing. but ok if you want to keep discussing dont get angry.

John 3:16 a lot of people like that one thinking it is referring to the whole world.
when it is not it is reffering to the different nations. remember the jews were God's chosen people first. then Salvation came to the gentiles(us) so thats why it says whosoever because salvation used to be for the Jew only
WAY TO TOTALLY SCREW UP SCRIPTURE! It is referring to the whole world.
 
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Cako53

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I thought you said you were donediscussing. but ok if you want to keep discussing dont get angry.

John 3:16 a lot of people like that one thinking it is referring to the whole world.
when it is not it is reffering to the different nations. remember the jews were God's chosen people first. then Salvation came to the gentiles(us) so thats why it says whosoever because salvation used to be for the Jew only
okay so if you say this, what about when Jesus than told them to preach the gospel to all ends of the earth?
 
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Phoenix

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So that His name could Be proclaimed throught the world. also the elect are scattered dude we are not all in one place
 
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tryingtofindhim

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Cako I so enjoy your way with words and your dedication to the Lord, you are a fine young man!

to other posters in here... I'm thinking one of you has had an abortion and this is the reason for the rigid defense of abortion??? I'm just guessing here but need to let you know that if that is the case, you need to repent of this instead of justifying it, allow the Lord to heal you so you can move forward and yes... discontinue sexually imoral activity. Abortion is not birth control. If you are Christian then you need to abstain. If you are not Christian you need to abstain, repent and receive the saving grace of Jesus as Lord. There are reasons for God's instruction on not being sexually imoral. Instead of being defensive and justifying murder I would recommend repentance that you be washed by the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ for the blood of your child. Hey, maybe I got it all wrong, maybe you just have a friend in mind as you post... if so, tell her to repent... give her this advise.
If your we're talking about me, you are wrong. No I don't have a friend who has. I am just thinking about other teens who have been put in challenging situations. Lots of teens die from giving birth to a child because they are not ready. If you'd like I'll get you the statistics and the source of my statistics. :)
 
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tryingtofindhim

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Umm no it isnt study scripture more. study theology and you will see it makes sense

ya, you are the last one I would trust about studying scripture being that you believe God plans ahead of time to send people to hell. just saying :)
 
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Phoenix

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So then you won't study scripture.
Well then what happens to the people that sin? do they go to heaven?
your saying you dont believe God sends people to hell
 
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Cako53

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Umm no it isnt study scripture more. study theology and you will see it makes sense
It honestly looks like you are so caught up in your little bubble, that you wont even take a second to look and see how rediculous it all looks.