Disapointed In Trump SOTU

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This is a totally separate issue from the actual SOTU speech. There is only one way to describe it and that is OUTSTANDING AND TREMENDOUS. Let's give credit where credit is due. Here is a President who is being undermined by all sides, and yet he was able to fulfil multiple promises. Not one of the preceding presidents after Reagan did what they were appointed to do. They all undermined the Constitution and America.
It being separate from the SOTU is the point here.
 

Nehemiah6

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It being separate from the SOTU is the point here.
How can a totally separate issue become the point? If 75% of those who heard the SOTU presentation gave the President high marks, carping about unrelated issues indicates a refusal to give credit where credit is due. Just as we saw the Democrats disrespecting everything and everyone, and the Black Caucus refusing to give Trump a standing ovation for what he has accomplished for blacks. The poison of hatred blinds people to the truth.
 
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It being separate from the SOTU is the point here.
How can a totally separate issue become the point? If 75% of those who heard the SOTU presentation gave the President high marks, carping about unrelated issues indicates a refusal to give credit where credit is due. Just as we saw the Democrats disrespecting everything and everyone, and the Black Caucus refusing to give Trump a standing ovation for what he has accomplished for blacks. The poison of hatred blinds people to the truth.
You need to go back and read the beginning comments I made about the true state of the union and the graphs I linked to. We are in a heap of trouble and it is being ignored by Trump and the Republicans.
 

RickyZ

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You need to go back and read the beginning comments I made about the true state of the union and the graphs I linked to. We are in a heap of trouble and it is being ignored by Trump and the Republicans.
Oh no, they are not ignoring it. They are getting what they can while they can. And throwing bones to the dogs to placate them until it's too late.
 
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I wonder how many people Trump would be disappointed in? LOL!

How can a totally separate issue become the point? If 75% of those who heard the SOTU presentation gave the President high marks, carping about unrelated issues indicates a refusal to give credit where credit is due. Just as we saw the Democrats disrespecting everything and everyone, and the Black Caucus refusing to give Trump a standing ovation for what he has accomplished for blacks. The poison of hatred blinds people to the truth.

some people think that others should solve are their problems

they cannot receive the good because they have tunnel vision and or are myopic

in which case, will not matter what anyone says or what actually happens

a narrow and obsessively personal field of vision obscures the balance and thought process necessary to achieve any kind of objective reasoning

and as pompous as that last sentence sounds, I pretty much think it's true :cool:
 

RickyZ

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Lately it seems the democrats are proving themselves to be more hateful and militant then republicans.
Only to someone standing on the right. Those few in the center see them as both being equally bad. Nothing the Dems are doing now is anything the repubs haven't been doing the past 8 years.
 

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Only to someone standing on the right. Those few in the center see them as both being equally bad. Nothing the Dems are doing now is anything the repubs haven't been doing the past 8 years.
I have to disagree. Did the right have a resist Obama movement? Did the right have a deep state in LE insubordinate to Obama, as the left has; proven the other day by the memo release.
Also despite there being a clear delineation in left and right media the right newspapers have been infinitely more even handed in their treatment to Obama then the left has been to Trump.
 
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I have to disagree. Did the right have a resist Obama movement? Did the right have a deep state in LE insubordinate to Obama, as the left has; proven the other day by the memo release.
Also despite there being a clear delineation in left and right media the right newspapers have been infinitely more even handed in their treatment to Obama then the left has been to Trump.
I do not think you are looking at this objectively.
 

RickyZ

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I have to disagree. Did the right have a resist Obama movement? Did the right have a deep state in LE insubordinate to Obama, as the left has; proven the other day by the memo release.
Also despite there being a clear delineation in left and right media the right newspapers have been infinitely more even handed in their treatment to Obama then the left has been to Trump.
You're kidding me, right?

Wow, it's amazing how myopic people have gotten! Can't even remember the last 8 years, much less what happened in 2008.
 

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seemed fairly objective to me.

What did you see that made it not be objective?
The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.
 

MichaelOwen

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The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.
So we're the ones smoking dope.......um......no.........My eyes are actually open to the fact that they had a right to object to every notion that Barry Soetoro made, because his every intention was evil, the same as Clintons.....who's smoking what?
 
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The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.

like Ocare?

you mean if you want to know what is in it just pass it?

you mean that particular disaster that punished people who were too poor to pay for the MANDATED healthcare?

or do you possibly mean the Iran deal?

or maybe the lack of Christians being allowed into the US while Muslims were cultivated and allowed in with impunity...?

or maybe you mean all the LACK of legislaton enacted by mr community organizer? he did have a pen and phone after all

or how about the Chrysler bailout in which he violated the constitution's Takings and Due Process clauses by forcing the secured creditors to take 30 cents on the dollar? of course you would see these people as fat cats...but still...they were LEGAL fat cats whether or not you like it

or how about the political profiling done at the IRS?

or how about Obamas 'recess appointments'? FYI, in 2014, the Supreme Court ruled this activity was illegal

And DACA and DAPA? these are actually illegal and in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, immigration law AND the Constitutions 'Take Care' clause

and how about trying to regulate the internet? he infringed on the First Amendment rights of internet providers

and on and on and on and on and on

and of course let's remember the FISA warrant fiasco...

I understand you may actually approve of the some of the above...which barely scratches the surface of the illegality of Obama's presidency but there are laws to uphold the behavior of everyone in the country from the top down
 
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The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.
with regards to your comment about smoking dope

I know I don't touch drugs and your loose and not funny little digs are noted

why don't you provide some documentation, like myself and others have done, instead of relying on what you seem to consider funny putdowns?
 

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Trump at least attempts to build bridges and gives
speeches that invite inclusion of all U.S. Americans.

I watched his speech down here in Oz and I was impressed
at the conciliatory tone, and in his reaching out to the
sour-faced Democrats on bi-partisanship.

On a side note: wasn't Nancy Pelosi's face worth a
thousand dollars. Does she have false teeth?
Or was that a gobstopper she was playing with?

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MichaelOwen

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Has anybody forgotten about this???? This isn't just for this clown, but for the Democrats as a whole.....Yeah sure, Republicans have problems, sure......but they sure haven't booed God......who's side you gonna stand on?
 

notuptome

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You're kidding me, right?

Wow, it's amazing how myopic people have gotten! Can't even remember the last 8 years, much less what happened in 2008.
The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.
You could change the world if the animosity you have for the world was turned into a burden for their souls.

Win them to Christ one by one till all have been gathered.

For the cause of Christ
Roger