Australians back same-sex marriage at polls; Parliament plans December vote

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
S

Society

Guest
When people wanna stop others from getting married because they don't like their sexual behavior they answer to "a higher law" then the constitution. When people wanna enact gun control to save lives as a moral good suddenly the constitution is sacrosanct and the final word. :rolleyes:
 
Apr 14, 2011
1,512
53
48
27
You're not being infringed on
Not according to God and what the militant LGBTQRSTUV lobby is saying. Look at the buzzwords they use such as tolerance (intolerance of Christianity and forcing people to agree with them or else lose their jobs, livelihoods, money in bank, reputations, etc), equality (not for Christians only those that agree with the homosexual propaganda), diversity (We are Borg, resistance is futile you must assimilate, you must accept that marriage is not only between one man and one woman but between two men and two women or else, there are multiple genders there is no male or female, learn the new language or else be fined, fired, etc, you are not allowed to disagree, like what happened to that male Google employee whose statements were leaked and should have remained private and freely discussed in the company, you must bake the wedding cake for homosexual couples or else we will sue you to the ground, mock, hate, and belittle you even though it is within your right as a company to refuse to do ceremonies that you do not agree with, etc), inclusion (Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc but no Christianity unless you change your beliefs to be in line with society, the new status quo, instead of the Bible), etc. Their enemy is ultimately God and those who follow Him. Dude you have been duped, Society has been duped, and mj has been duped by the mainstream media, society, culture, etc. Thanks. God bless, God bless America, and God bless our president. :)
 
Apr 14, 2011
1,512
53
48
27
When people wanna stop others from getting married because they don't like their sexual behavior they answer to "a higher law" then the constitution. When people wanna enact gun control to save lives as a moral good suddenly the constitution is sacrosanct and the final word. :rolleyes:
Gun control will not save lives, it is not helping Chicago, it is not helping California, it does not help having gun-free zones, etc. Those who do criminal acts will instead go on the black market for their weapons to maim, murder, and destroy. Guns do not kill, people kill. A gun by itself does no such thing but when a person pushes the trigger of the gun, it can murder, maim, or be used for self-defense. Anyways, let us go back on topic about SSM. Thanks. :)
 

MichaelOwen

Senior Member
Nov 6, 2017
745
51
28
Not according to God and what the militant LGBTQRSTUV lobby is saying. Look at the buzzwords they use such as tolerance (intolerance of Christianity and forcing people to agree with them or else lose their jobs, livelihoods, money in bank, reputations, etc), equality (not for Christians only those that agree with the homosexual propaganda), diversity (We are Borg, resistance is futile you must assimilate, you must accept that marriage is not only between one man and one woman but between two men and two women or else, there are multiple genders there is no male or female, learn the new language or else be fined, fired, etc, you are not allowed to disagree, like what happened to that male Google employee whose statements were leaked and should have remained private and freely discussed in the company, you must bake the wedding cake for homosexual couples or else we will sue you to the ground, mock, hate, and belittle you even though it is within your right as a company to refuse to do ceremonies that you do not agree with, etc), inclusion (Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc but no Christianity unless you change your beliefs to be in line with society, the new status quo, instead of the Bible), etc. Their enemy is ultimately God and those who follow Him. Dude you have been duped, Society has been duped, and mj has been duped by the mainstream media, society, culture, etc. Thanks. God bless, God bless America, and God bless our president. :)

Amen! Thank you!
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
7,870
82
48
When people wanna stop others from getting married because they don't like their sexual behavior they answer to "a higher law" then the constitution. When people wanna enact gun control to save lives as a moral good suddenly the constitution is sacrosanct and the final word. :rolleyes:
Yep.
The Constitution is absolutely set in stone when it comes to gun rights but when it comes to the constitutional rights of the same sex couples then suddenly the Constitution isn't important..
a lot of Christians really need to drop the persecution complex. Same-sex couples getting married isn't infringing on my rights any more than someone eating cereal I don't like is infringing on my breakfast
 
Last edited:
E

Ellsworth1943

Guest
Yep.
The Constitution is absolutely set in stone when it comes to gun rights but when it comes to the constitutional rights of the same sex couples then suddenly the Constitution isn't important..
a lot of Christians really need to drop the persecution complex. Same-sex couples getting married isn't infringing on my rights any more than someone eating cereal I don't like is infringing on my breakfast
I guess my standards of what is acceptable and non acceptable behavior is just higher than yours.
Any behavior that violates God's standards offends me. I hate it. I will speak against it. I will openly condemn those who are actively a part of it. I will turn and walk away after I have expressed my anger.
To openly participate in perversion is an infringement on my constitutional rights to not see such lewd behavior.
 
S

Society

Guest
I guess my standards of what is acceptable and non acceptable behavior is just higher than yours.
Any behavior that violates God's standards offends me. I hate it. I will speak against it. I will openly condemn those who are actively a part of it. I will turn and walk away after I have expressed my anger.
To openly participate in perversion is an infringement on my constitutional rights to not see such lewd behavior.
Matthew 7:5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
 
S

Society

Guest
Not according to God and what the militant LGBTQRSTUV lobby is saying. Look at the buzzwords they use such as tolerance (intolerance of Christianity and forcing people to agree with them or else lose their jobs, livelihoods, money in bank, reputations, etc), equality (not for Christians only those that agree with the homosexual propaganda), diversity (We are Borg, resistance is futile you must assimilate, you must accept that marriage is not only between one man and one woman but between two men and two women or else, there are multiple genders there is no male or female, learn the new language or else be fined, fired, etc, you are not allowed to disagree, like what happened to that male Google employee whose statements were leaked and should have remained private and freely discussed in the company, you must bake the wedding cake for homosexual couples or else we will sue you to the ground, mock, hate, and belittle you even though it is within your right as a company to refuse to do ceremonies that you do not agree with, etc), inclusion (Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc but no Christianity unless you change your beliefs to be in line with society, the new status quo, instead of the Bible), etc. Their enemy is ultimately God and those who follow Him. Dude you have been duped, Society has been duped, and mj has been duped by the mainstream media, society, culture, etc. Thanks. God bless, God bless America, and God bless our president. :)
It's kind of hard to tolerate someone who is actively trying to thwart you.

"Just lay back and let me run your life. If you don't let me force you to live according to MY values then you're being intolerant and therefore a hypocrite!"
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
7,870
82
48
I guess my standards of what is acceptable and non acceptable behavior is just higher than yours.
Any behavior that violates God's standards offends me. I hate it. I will speak against it. I will openly condemn those who are actively a part of it. I will turn and walk away after I have expressed my anger.
To openly participate in perversion is an infringement on my constitutional rights to not see such lewd behavior.
If two consenting adults want to get married then that's their business. You have a constitutional right to speak your mind and to say you disagree with it but you don't have a right to infringe on someone else's rights or to force your beliefs on anyone else. We are not biblical instructed to force a beliefs on others.
 
E

Ellsworth1943

Guest
It's kind of hard to tolerate someone who is actively trying to thwart you.

"Just lay back and let me run your life. If you don't let me force you to live according to MY values then you're being intolerant and therefore a hypocrite!"
I do not want to run your life or anyone's life. BUT------
I do not want you to force me to accept your lifestyle if it violates God's standards.
I will not do it. I will not be silenced. I will object very loudly and in your face.
Do what you please in private and let God deal with you.
What is next?-----Public nudity? Public sex? Where does it end?
At what point do YOU say enough is enough?
 
E

Ellsworth1943

Guest
If two consenting adults want to get married then that's their business. You have a constitutional right to speak your mind and to say you disagree with it but you don't have a right to infringe on someone else's rights or to force your beliefs on anyone else. We are not biblical instructed to force a beliefs on others.
But they are forcing me to accept it.
I can not choose to not serve them.
I can not openly condemn their lifestyle as ungodly without paying a price.
As I said before, what anyone does in private is between them and God.
BUT do not say I must accept it and must not speak out against it.

What is next?
 
E

Ellsworth1943

Guest
Over my life time I have had many of my rights taken from me.
I am not with out my faults, but I have certain standards that I try to live by.
I hate profanity, but I can no longer watch TV or go to a movie because of the language.
I love the beach, but can no longer go because of the bare butts and breast that is the norm now.
I can no longer say Islam is a false religion and is of Satan without being called intolerant.
The list of things just go on and on.
This nation is headed for God's judgment, and you people who willingly accept what is happing are only adding to God's anger.
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
7,870
82
48
But they are forcing me to accept it.
I can not choose to not serve them.
I can not openly condemn their lifestyle as ungodly without paying a price.
As I said before, what anyone does in private is between them and God.
BUT do not say I must accept it and must not speak out against it.

What is next?
You're allowed to speak against it. That's freedom of speech
 
E

Ellsworth1943

Guest
You're allowed to speak against it. That's freedom of speech
Not in a public government meeting or any public place.
I was escorted out of a city council meeting for speaking against it.
I was escorted out of a school board meeting for speaking against it.
I was escorted out of a Walmart for speaking against it.
 
S

Society

Guest
But they are forcing me to accept it.
Unless they are tying you down Clockwork Orange style and brainwashing you I fail to see how you are being forced to accept anything.

I can not choose to not serve them.
I can not openly condemn their lifestyle as ungodly without paying a price.
As I said before, what anyone does in private is between them and God.
BUT do not say I must accept it and must not speak out against it.

What is next?


Not in a public government meeting or any public place.
I was escorted out of a city council meeting for speaking against it.
I was escorted out of a school board meeting for speaking against it.
I was escorted out of a Walmart for speaking against it.
If you went into public places and started ranting against gay people then of course you got escorted out. I can only imagine what it must look like when you come into these places like some ranting vagabond.

Wal-Mart????

Your problem here is you want to be free of the consequences of your words and behaviour. Freedom of speech and belief does not mean the rest of us are obligated to listen to you or that get special protections from society's repercussions.
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
7,870
82
48
Unless they are tying you down Clockwork Orange style and brainwashing you I fail to see how you are being forced to accept anything.







If you went into public places and started ranting against gay people then of course you got escorted out. I can only imagine what it must look like when you come into these places like some ranting vagabond.

Wal-Mart????

Your problem here is you want to be free of the consequences of your words and behaviour. Freedom of speech and belief does not mean the rest of us are obligated to listen to you or that get special protections from society's repercussions.
Walmart is a business and they have the right to remove someone for harassing their customers
 

oldethennew

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2016
7,619
428
83
dude,

you are 'assuming' without knowing the facts - it takes two or more and both could
be harassing the other...or it could have had nothing to do with a personal confrontation...
 
Last edited:

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
7,870
82
48
dude,

you are 'assuming' without knowing the facts - it takes two or more and both could
be harassing the other...or it could have had nothing to do with a personal confrontation...
I'm pretty sure you're allowed to preach or evangelize in public places. But a business such as Walmart would reserve the right to remove someone from their store
 

notuptome

Senior Member
May 17, 2013
11,857
620
113
Yep.
The Constitution is absolutely set in stone when it comes to gun rights but when it comes to the constitutional rights of the same sex couples then suddenly the Constitution isn't important..
a lot of Christians really need to drop the persecution complex. Same-sex couples getting married isn't infringing on my rights any more than someone eating cereal I don't like is infringing on my breakfast
God does not condone sodomy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger