Australians back same-sex marriage at polls; Parliament plans December vote

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Dude653

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Where are your fruits? Excuses do not bring forth fruits. The devil offers MANY excuses! But there is no excuse with God, so where are your fruits?
Your fruits are how you carry yourself and how you treat people.
Beating someone over the head with my Bible and screaming YOU'RE GOING TO HELL! Has nothing to do with bearing fruit
 

kaylagrl

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Your fruits are how you carry yourself and how you treat people.
Beating someone over the head with my Bible and screaming YOU'RE GOING TO HELL! Has nothing to do with bearing fruit
You're making a whole lot of judgments and assumptions,rather ironic.
 

MichaelOwen

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Your fruits are how you carry yourself and how you treat people.
Beating someone over the head with my Bible and screaming YOU'RE GOING TO HELL! Has nothing to do with bearing fruit

Who says we are doing that? Do you ever witness to people who are caught in that kind of lifestyle? It has EVERYTHING to do with fruit! Read Galatians 5 : 22-23, if you exhibit the the fruits, you exhibit the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of you. And if the Holy Spirit is dwelling inside of you, then you're going to want to witness to these people God's word. I'm not saying beating them over the head and telling them they will go to hell, but God's word says if they don't repent and turn from it and accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, THEY WILL die and go to Hell. I didn't write that, that's God's word!
 

kaylagrl

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Who says we are doing that? Do you ever witness to people who are caught in that kind of lifestyle? It has EVERYTHING to do with fruit! Read Galatians 5 : 22-23, if you exhibit the the fruits, you exhibit the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of you. And if the Holy Spirit is dwelling inside of you, then you're going to want to witness to these people God's word. I'm not saying beating them over the head and telling them they will go to hell, but God's word says if they don't repent and turn from it and accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, THEY WILL die and go to Hell. I didn't write that, that's God's word!

I'm so encouraged by your maturity and understanding of the Word. Im glad to see secularism has not tainted your view of the Bible.

 

Dude653

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Pearls to swine.
If someone doesn't see any value in what you have to offer then you move along to someone who does.
treat them with kindness and let them see God in you. Maybe they'll come around.
 
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Who says we are doing that? Do you ever witness to people who are caught in that kind of lifestyle? It has EVERYTHING to do with fruit! Read Galatians 5 : 22-23, if you exhibit the the fruits, you exhibit the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of you. And if the Holy Spirit is dwelling inside of you, then you're going to want to witness to these people God's word. I'm not saying beating them over the head and telling them they will go to hell, but God's word says if they don't repent and turn from it and accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, THEY WILL die and go to Hell. I didn't write that, that's God's word!
Dude653 has devoted himself to painting people who believe homosexuality is a sin--that is, Bible-believing Christians--and do not support it as hell-focused people who beat the unsaved with Bibles and want a theocracy. His comments (quoted below) are not isolated; they are the millionth iteration of the same.

You are wasting your time. He is dedicated to purposely "misunderstanding" you, me, and everyone else who finds it their concern to reach the lost.

Just thought I should let you know.

Well the headline said Australians supported it at the polls.
Like it or not that's how democracy works
Your fruits are how you carry yourself and how you treat people.
Beating someone over the head with my Bible and screaming YOU'RE GOING TO HELL! Has nothing to do with bearing fruit
 

Dude653

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Dude653 has devoted himself to painting people who believe homosexuality is a sin--that is, Bible-believing Christians--and do not support it as hell-focused people who beat the unsaved with Bibles and want a theocracy. His comments (quoted below) are not isolated; they are the millionth iteration of the same.

You are wasting your time. He is dedicated to purposely "misunderstanding" you, me, and everyone else who finds it their concern to reach the lost.

Just thought I should let you know.
No.. I've already said multiple times that you can speak against homosexuality all day long because that's your constitutional right.
But I also feel that same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
That's how Freedom works
 

notuptome

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No.. I've already said multiple times that you can speak against homosexuality all day long because that's your constitutional right.
But I also feel that same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
That's how Freedom works
Freedom is not without it's limits. We are bound to act such a fashion as to please God not men.

Sodomy is against Gods law. It's not a matter of freedom in that case any more than a man has the freedom to murder another. The constitution is second to the word of God.

I have a God given mandate to proclaim the gospel and hold men accountable to the word of God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Dude653

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Freedom is not without it's limits. We are bound to act such a fashion as to please God not men.

Sodomy is against Gods law. It's not a matter of freedom in that case any more than a man has the freedom to murder another. The constitution is second to the word of God.

I have a God given mandate to proclaim the gospel and hold men accountable to the word of God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here but we can't force our beliefs on others. That's not a right that you have.
 
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Ellsworth1943

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Feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here but we can't force our beliefs on others. That's not a right that you have.
BUT you and your homosexual friends are forcing your beliefs on society.
We who base our beliefs and actions on Bible standards are the ones demonized.
Homosexual marriage is not a right, it is against God's laws.
You need to accept that some man made laws are just wrong, ungodly, and should be objected to very loudly.
I will continue to do that. I pray that you will repent and ask God's forgiveness for accepting such perversion.
 

Dude653

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BUT you and your homosexual friends are forcing your beliefs on society.
We who base our beliefs and actions on Bible standards are the ones demonized.
Homosexual marriage is not a right, it is against God's laws.
You need to accept that some man made laws are just wrong, ungodly, and should be objected to very loudly.
I will continue to do that. I pray that you will repent and ask God's forgiveness for accepting such perversion.
Yep. Same sex couples are tax-paying citizens.
So they should be entitled to the same privileges as any other tax-paying citizen. Not everyone is going to follow the Bible and that's their constitutional right not to do so.
A lot of Christians just need to get over their persecution complex
 
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Ellsworth1943

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Yep. Same sex couples are tax-paying citizens.
So they should be entitled to the same privileges as any other tax-paying citizen. Not everyone is going to follow the Bible and that's their constitutional right not to do so.
A lot of Christians just need to get over their persecution complex
I have a very difficult time calling you a brother in Christ.
I have no persecution complex, BUT, unlike you, I have a love for God's standards.
No one has a right to violate God's standards, and those who do will be judged by God accordingly.
You might want to think about where you stand before God as you defend the rights of perverts.
 

notuptome

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Feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here but we can't force our beliefs on others. That's not a right that you have.
Yet you would have them force me to tolerate their defiance of God.

Stop swimming in the sewer and walk in the light as Christ is in the Light. Christians do not delight in fellowshipping with the unfruitful works of darkness.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Dude653

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Yet you would have them force me to tolerate their defiance of God.

Stop swimming in the sewer and walk in the light as Christ is in the Light. Christians do not delight in fellowshipping with the unfruitful works of darkness.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
That sounds like something a Muslim would say right before he straps a bomb to his chest
 
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That sounds like something a Muslim would say right before he straps a bomb to his chest
More like "All*hu Akbar". (But I bet you won't admit that they say exactly that, though, if you're anything like the permissive "progressive" you portray yourself to be, who puts the world and its ways above Christianity.)

So to you, a Christian who will not fellowship with darkness is equivalent to a Muslim suicide bomber? That really shows a lot about you and where you stand regarding your Christian brothers and sisters, and even Christianity itself, since we are commanded to be called out from the world and not in fellowship with darkness.

For you to compare notuptome to an Islamic terrorist is disgusting and despicable.
 

notuptome

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That sounds like something a Muslim would say right before he straps a bomb to his chest
Well I don't hang out with muslims either so I guess you will just have to be justified in your own eyes.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

MichaelOwen

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That sounds like something a Muslim would say right before he straps a bomb to his chest
Your fruits continue to bear out in you, right before your eyes and those who watch closely. I'm not a judge, but the Word tells me to test the spirits and that I will know them by their fruits. A good tree can't give bad fruit, and a bad tree can't give good fruit. I'm not saying that you are bad whatsoever, but why do you take such a stance on things that contradict the word of God? A Muslim who straps a bomb to their chest and goes and commits a horrible act such as that is misled by false doctrine, and it has nothing to do with us walking in the light as we as told to by God's word, and not fellowship with those in darkness.
 

Dude653

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" these people over there don't believe in my God and I'm not going to tolerate it"
men flew planes into buildings under that same mindset.
My son is a Marine. He serves alongside Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and even atheists. Despite their ideological beliefs or lack thereof they are all there for the same reason which is to defend our country.
 
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Ellsworth1943

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I find it very disturbing that people who claim to be Christians come on a Christian forum and champion the rights of sinners to live as they please. How long Lord?
 
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" these people over there don't believe in my God and I'm not going to tolerate it"
men flew planes into buildings under that same mindset.
My son is a Marine. He serves alongside Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and even atheists. Despite their ideological beliefs or lack thereof they are all there for the same reason which is to defend our country.
This is the same old "I know some 'good' unsaved people" irrelevance delivered in a military package.

We're not as stupid as you apparently think we are.