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I think we had Nazi sympathizers ... who really did not hold to true Nazis beliefs yet associated with part the of agenda. I don't think we have "real" muslims that hold peaceful ideas...they should not be called "muslims" they should be called muslim sympathizers ...because clearly the true doctrine of islam is murder and rape.
 
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Mitspa said:
I think we had Nazi sympathizers ... who really did not hold to true Nazis beliefs yet associated with part the of agenda. I don't think we have "real" muslims that hold peaceful ideas...they should not be called "muslims" they should be called muslim sympathizers ...because clearly the true doctrine of islam is murder and rape.
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A poll taken in Germany around the time of the war over 60% of people identified themselves as a Christian.Yet over 6 million Jews were murdered in Germany,under their noses. How does that happen? The same goes with peaceful Muslims.No one stopped the Nazis in this "Christian" country {Christian at the time} Oh a handful tried but there was no uprising by the German people to stop the Nazis. When Hitler began to blame the Jews where were the Germans? So where is the Muslim uprising? Im not seeing it. I dont see peaceful Muslims marching the streets in protest here in the US. If and when they do they will have my support. Until then Im dubious over "peaceful Muslims". For a Muslim to be peaceful is to go against what their own holy book teaches. So we'll see.Step up and you will have my support.
 
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So telling the truth about islam ...is hate speech? No ..sorry I don't play that game. No one on this thread has used hate and its not an issue in anyone except those that are in this religion of hate.
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No it's not hate speech. I never said it was. Though on a daily basis throughout the forums, I DO see people who seem to think we should hate the sinnER as well as the sin.
 
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Of course is does...Im surprised so many of you who have biblical knowledge have not seen that message so clearly expressed in the scriptures?

Ga 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.


Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 ¶ If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
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NONE of these verses specifically says we're to love some people more than others. Not a single verse. Jesus loved ALL people EQUALLY.
 
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TRUTH: What nobody seems to want to hear!! ;)
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The TRUTH is people want so badly to beleive that ALL muslims are terrorists to justify their hatred, bigotry discrimination and prejudice. I feel sorry for the people that had to go through what they went through in Paris, but I also feel sorry for the middle eastern people here in America whether muslim or not. They suffer so much from ignorant people like many of the people in this forum. I go to the store and someone is shouting at a middle eastern man, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY!! Go back to where you came from!!! This happened after the 9/11 attacks.

My mother had some muslim friends back in the day and when the 9/11 attacks happened some people broke into their store and trashed and destroyed everything.

These people that oppress middle eastern and muslim people are also terrorists just in a different way. Becoming the exact thing that they claim they despise.
 
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phil38111 said:
The TRUTH is people want so badly to beleive that ALL muslims are terrorists to justify their hatred, bigotry discrimination and prejudice. I feel sorry for the people that had to go through what they went through in Paris, but I also feel sorry for the middle eastern people here in America whether muslim or not. They suffer so much from ignorant people like many of the people in this forum. I go to the store and someone is shouting at a middle eastern man, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY!! Go back to where you came from!!! This happened after the 9/11 attacks.

My mother had some muslim friends back in the day and when the 9/11 attacks happened some people broke into their store and trashed and destroyed everything.

These people that oppress middle eastern and muslim people are also terrorists just in a different way. Becoming the exact thing that they claim they despise.
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Quote "The TRUTH is people want so badly to beleive that ALL muslims are terrorists to justify their hatred, bigotry discrimination and prejudice.

That is judging and making a blanket statement. Its what got 6 million Jews murdered BTW Not all Germans were Nazis but they stood by just the same and let 6 million people be horrifically murdered. Islam is a violent religion,its a demonic religion and we need to pray that the people under it are released from bondage.Not make excuses for the damnable religion.


Quote "They suffer so much from ignorant people like many of the people in this forum."

They suffer from a demonic religion that treats women and children like dogs. A religion that says murder will give you virgins in "heaven".A religion that wants to make the world accept the Muslim faith or be killed.These people are blind,bound and stripped of any purpose in life but subjugation to a hateful god. And what do Christians say "oh its not that bad,you dont really understand the faith,you're so ignorant. NO! NO! NO!!!!!! They need to be delivered and snatched from satans grasp.Stop making excuses for this demonic religion.

Quote "My mother had some muslim friends back in the day and when the 9/11 attacks happened some people broke into their store and trashed and destroyed everything."

 That wasnt Christians. But if more "peaceful" Muslims took to the streets to protest people would be less suspicious of them.


Quote "These people that oppress middle eastern and muslim people are also terrorists just in a different way. Becoming the exact thing that they claim they despise.

 What people who oppress Middle Eastern people? Apparently you dont understand the word terrorism.
 
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You don't gotta be Muslim to be a terrorist..just saying..
 
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phil38111 said:
The TRUTH is people want so badly to beleive that ALL muslims are terrorists to justify their hatred, bigotry discrimination and prejudice. I feel sorry for the people that had to go through what they went through in Paris, but I also feel sorry for the middle eastern people here in America whether muslim or not. They suffer so much from ignorant people like many of the people in this forum. I go to the store and someone is shouting at a middle eastern man, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY!! Go back to where you came from!!! This happened after the 9/11 attacks.

My mother had some muslim friends back in the day and when the 9/11 attacks happened some people broke into their store and trashed and destroyed everything.

These people that oppress middle eastern and muslim people are also terrorists just in a different way. Becoming the exact thing that they claim they despise.
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Right ..its not really the folks in this religion that are evil..its the ones who dare to call this evil religion ..evil

Funny is fine to condemn those who speak against evil...but its wrong to speak against the real evil doers. Liberal nonsense!
 
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No it's not hate speech. I never said it was. Though on a daily basis throughout the forums, I DO see people who seem to think we should hate the sinnER as well as the sin.
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Well I see people that believe all kinds of stuff on this forum ...some on this forum seem to think telling the truth about sin and evil is hate.
 
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Mitspa said:
Well I see people that believe all kinds of stuff on this forum ...some on this forum seem to think telling the truth about sin and evil is hate.
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How else are people supposed to hear the truth about sin, it's evilness and the consequences thereof? People here accuse me of being blunt with the truth sometimes. I'm not one who sugarcoats anything, and you know it. I tell how I see it. Whether people can handle the raw truth or not, is THEIR problem. Not mine. Many here prefer to live in a fantasy world bubble, and not look upon the true horrors of what happens in the REAL world.. THOSE are the ones who are gonna have no chance when the fit hits the shan. :/
 
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Of course is does...Im surprised so many of you who have biblical knowledge have not seen that message so clearly expressed in the scriptures?

Ga 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.


Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 ¶ If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
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I hear Jesus separated the goats and the sheep by how well they recognised the iniquity of Muslims and any other religions and treated them differently to believers. (not normally necessary, but that was a joke).

The verses you've chosen in John go against your own argument. Love as I have loved you, says Jesus... Jesus wined dined with us, and then died for us while we were still sinners.
...In fact those scriptures state the exact opposite of your opinion. If the world hates you, love them all the same. Love them as Christ loves everyone, even unto death.

I hope you can soften dude. Jesus wasn't big on hammering people. Was more about being soft, getting hurt, and continuing to love through his suffering and ultimately even in the act of his death.
They hated him so much, and he didn't rant and rave and say how bad they were; he died, he died and forgave them while they were mocking him as he hung from the cross.
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I've read a lot of your messages so even replying to you goes against my better judgement. But Jesus was so into being soft and loving that he asked us to right our relationships with one another before coming to worship him (mt 5:23-24), and that those who call their brother or sister a fool isn't doing too crash hot (mt 5:21-22). How do you go with that, man?
 
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I hear Jesus separated the goats and the sheep by how well they recognised the iniquity of Muslims and any other religions and treated them differently to believers. (not normally necessary, but that was a joke).

The verses you've chosen in John go against your own argument. Love as I have loved you, says Jesus... Jesus wined dined with us, and then died for us while we were still sinners.
...In fact those scriptures state the exact opposite of your opinion. If the world hates you, love them all the same. Love them as Christ loves everyone, even unto death.

I hope you can soften dude. Jesus wasn't big on hammering people. Was more about being soft, getting hurt, and continuing to love through his suffering and ultimately even in the act of his death.
They hated him so much, and he didn't rant and rave and say how bad they were; he died, he died and forgave them while they were mocking him as he hung from the cross.
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I've read a lot of your messages so even replying to you goes against my better judgement. But Jesus was so into being soft and loving that he asked us to right our relationships with one another before coming to worship him (mt 5:23-24), and that those who call their brother or sister a fool isn't doing too crash hot (mt 5:21-22). How do you go with that, man?
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No the clear context is Him speaking to believers and how believers treat other believers (you have not chosen me I have chosen you) the world hates me and will hate you...how can you get He was speaking to anyone other than believers. The principle of believers loving other believers in the unity of being in Christ and in the Fathers love is such a basic biblical truth and core of our faith...its a bit confusing how so many don't recognize the very heart of our obedience to Christ? Really kinda sad :(
 
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phil38111 said:
I feel sorry for the people that had to go through what they went through in Paris, but I also feel sorry for the middle eastern people here in America
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Blah blah blah blah blah . . .

Always America's fault. And White, Christian America at that. Puke!
 
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"but I also feel sorry for the middle eastern people here in America "

Yep...these poor people should be liberated back to the middle east... if you can get any of them to leave this awful country...then im sure we can start a fund to raise money for them. Funny how so many rush to live in a nation with so many mean and hateful people?
 
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