Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Cameron143 said:
I would have to read the full passage, but you don't list it. But that isn't the passage where Jesus says this generation. It doesn't require every person of the generation to see it for it to come upon that particular generation.
Now you...Revelation 1:7. Who are those who pierced Him?
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Jesus told Caiaphas that he would see him coming in the clouds.
 
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Cameron143 said:
70AD. The destruction of Jerusalem and the temple.
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So you say Jesus came in the clouds before John wrote that Jesus will come in the clouds?

Doesn't make much sense there.


7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.



If every eye saw him.come in 70 ad ,then why didn't John or anyone else write about his coming in 70 ad?
 
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That's an interesting observation coming from one that buys into the sympathy for Hamas.
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No one has sympathy for Hamas.You buy into Israels lies that everyone they kill is a terrorist.

This little girl was no.terrorist.She is a victim.
Look closely at what you are calling Hamas.

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This is a question for any and all Trump/MAGA supporters. Is there any line he could cross that would cause you to stop supporting him? In other words, is your support for him unconditional? I'm just wondering if you've made up your mind to support him no matter what.
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I'm betting that Donald Trump(the narcissist that he is)could exactly himself above all,and about all of his supporters would still support him.


Daniel 11:36
And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.



It doesn't matter what he says or does.Back around 2003 ,I remember reading Daniel 11:45 and thinking,The president after next will move the US embassy to Jerusalem.

Daniel 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.



Trump literally brags about doing this to christians and they don't realize it's in the bible.The next 4 years are going to be very interesting in Israel after Trump wins.I expect him to fulfill almost everything he has said he wanted to do with Israel.All,but keep them safe.That is one promise he can't keep.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
So you say Jesus came in the clouds before John wrote that Jesus will come in the clouds?

Doesn't make much sense there.


7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.



If every eye saw him.come in 70 ad ,then why didn't John or anyone else write about his coming in 70 ad?
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Are you just avoiding the question? Your date is wrong on when Revelation was written. I've told you repeatedly why it wasn't written about. And why won't you answer the question concerning Revelation 1:7 about those who pierced Him seeing Him coming in the clouds? Is it because that would place His return in the 1st century?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Are you just avoiding the question? Your date is wrong on when Revelation was written. I've told you repeatedly why it wasn't written about. And why won't you answer the question concerning Revelation 1:7 about those who pierced Him seeing Him coming in the clouds? Is it because that would place His return in the 1st century?
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The early church is not wrong about when revelation was written.

They would know about it more than you do
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
No one has sympathy for Hamas.You buy into Israels lies that everyone they kill is a terrorist.

This little girl was no.terrorist.She is a victim.
Look closely at what you are calling Hamas.

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She is as precious as an Israeli child. Why would her leadership, Hamas, be willing to sacrifice her to procure the world's sympathy?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Are you just avoiding the question? Your date is wrong on when Revelation was written. I've told you repeatedly why it wasn't written about. And why won't you answer the question concerning Revelation 1:7 about those who pierced Him seeing Him coming in the clouds? Is it because that would place His return in the 1st century?
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Besides,I understand when the tribulation begins and ends.
You preterists don't see what's taking place now ,nor will you see it tomorrow.

You believe it's all in the past.
 
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Mem said:
She is as precious as an Israeli child. Why would her leadership, Hamas, be willing to sacrifice her to procure the world's sympathy?
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Hamas didn't sacrifice her .
She was gunned down in the street along with two red cross workers who were sent to rescue her .

There was no one hiding behind her nor did anyone with her have a gun.She was a scared and frightened little girl who died for no reason other than hatred.

Jews see her as a dog or a rat.Much like Nazis looked upon the Jews .Just another animal.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
The early church is not wrong about when revelation was written.

They would know about it more than you do
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Sure it is. Only those who remove the book from those it is written to and ignore its purpose would change the date.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
Hamas didn't sacrifice her .
She was gunned down in the street along with two red cross workers who were sent to rescue her .

There was no one hiding behind her nor did anyone with her have a gun.She was a scared and frightened little girl who died for no reason other than hatred.

Jews see her as a dog or a rat.Much like Nazis looked upon the Jews .Just another animal.
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Genocide. Yet another holocaust. Sad, eh? Perhaps a case of the abused become the abusers?
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
Besides,I understand when the tribulation begins and ends.
You preterists don't see what's taking place now ,nor will you see it tomorrow.

You believe it's all in the past.
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Still avoiding the obvious. Who are those who pierced Him? They see Him. Who pierced Him?

I'm asking because I'm sure you want to be right. But if you believe the high priest saw Him, why refuse to answer?
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
The early church is the one that came up with the date.Its nothing new
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Nor is it the only date given. People change things to their own liking. Those who pierced Him would not have been around at the later date.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Still avoiding the obvious. Who are those who pierced Him? They see Him. Who pierced Him?

I'm asking because I'm sure you want to be right. But if you believe the high priest saw Him, why refuse to answer?
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I'm not sure who John is referring to.
If it's the one roman soldier that pierced Jesus or all of us he died for.
He died for me.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Nor is it the only date given. People change things to their own liking. Those who pierced Him would not have been around at the later date.
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You can't say that.The people who are resurected will see him .Both good and bad.

Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.


You can't say that these people who are resurected and have everlasting shame will not see him.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Nor is it the only date given. People change things to their own liking. Those who pierced Him would not have been around at the later date.
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Let me ask you a question.

Will these people who have crucify Christ themselves,look upon him when he comes?


Hebrews 6

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
 
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