Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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iamsoandso said:
The last several pages have discussed different topics over the last few day's and so I took the liberty to research/watch and not become involved in the different discussion, but yes I agree. As for NAR I see now that it is thrown in to many of the articles./videos along with 7MM and so I was not separating the two(still not sure if I should,lol),, Something about this new Christian idea just keeps causing me to be cautious. It seems now afterwards that the very thing that they have always feared is sprouted in that in the end they themselves seek an one world religion and government over the earth and they themselves, beguiled are co-conspirators in it.
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there should have been a different thread started for the other topic. as it is, it seems we won't have to put up with it anymore

as for NAR and the rest, the Bible indicates a far different future than the one they are planning for themselves
 
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there should have been a different thread started for the other topic. as it is, it seems we won't have to put up with it anymore

as for NAR and the rest, the Bible indicates a far different future than the one they are planning for themselves
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Yep I'm not really good at starting or maintaining threads,lol but I agree there should be a thread on this. I think that if there is a Christian who has not read the entire Bible from one end to the other they are going to quickly fall prey to this just because they are telling them they themselves are Christians. Simple things like "slaying Babylon" I thought "Are they saying they themselves are the 10 horn's of the Beast?" That's who Scripture says will burn her with fire. Anyway far to many things to mention in any one post on the issue of 7MM and NAR when comparing them to what Scripture says.
 
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Yep I'm not really good at starting or maintaining threads,lol but I agree there should be a thread on this. I think that if there is a Christian who has not read the entire Bible from one end to the other they are going to quickly fall prey to this just because they are telling them they themselves are Christians. Simple things like "slaying Babylon" I thought "Are they saying they themselves are the 10 horn's of the Beast?" That's who Scripture says will burn her with fire. Anyway far to many things to mention in any one post on the issue of 7MM and NAR when comparing them to what Scripture says.
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Oh ~ I meant a thread on the topic that put this op on a side rail...not sure...is that what you meant also?

I always have in mind new Christians or those who have been hanging on every word their pastor or online site said. They don't know it, but they are preyed on by deceiving spirits who work through deceived people. The NT actually explains all that very well but you have to read and study it and research is not just what you do in high school to pass .

When you are deceived you do not know that you are other than that uncomfortable feeling that creeps up now and then....some people don't even get that since they are so far in, that changing direction would upend their whole life.
 
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Oh ~ I meant a thread on the topic that put this op on a side rail...not sure...is that what you meant also?

I always have in mind new Christians or those who have been hanging on every word their pastor or online site said. They don't know it, but they are preyed on by deceiving spirits who work through deceived people. The NT actually explains all that very well but you have to read and study it and research is not just what you do in high school to pass .

When you are deceived you do not know that you are other than that uncomfortable feeling that creeps up now and then....some people don't even get that since they are so far in, that changing direction would upend their whole life.
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Hmm, yea, I don't know where the topic of NAR,7MM might fit best,lol... It seems like just a few post back(#7587) you were pointing out that there was already a thread that had become an Calvinist playground. Where would it apply? Are the NAR and 7MM drawn to Trump or Biden? I don't know if it's from lack of knowledge on his part or if by necessity of gaining voters that he has them so closely surrounding him but he does. I wonder is this a just don't talk about it issue or if it's something else because the OP has his name written all over it.
 
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Attorney General Andrew Bailey

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BREAKING: The Court has granted our motion to BLOCK Joe Biden’s illegal student loan plan. Congress never gave Biden the authority to saddle working Americans with half-a-trillion dollars in other people's debt. A huge win for the Constitution.
 
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Attorney General Andrew Bailey
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BREAKING: The Court has granted our motion to BLOCK Joe Biden’s illegal student loan plan. Congress never gave Biden the authority to saddle working Americans with half-a-trillion dollars in other people's debt. A huge win for the Constitution.
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the student loan forgiveness was never going yo happen, just pandering to young people to get votes..
 
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You fail to understand that it is the NATION Israel that will finally enter into the wedding supper/millennial reign via the New Covenant.

How? National corporate repentance. Thats how.
And then of course, the believing REMNANT of nation Israel will be RECOMISSIONED to undertake the task they formerly abandoned:
To SERVE God as priests to the gentile world. The gentile remnant who survive thru the tribulation.

Hos 5:14
For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.
Hos 5:15
I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

Hos 6:1
Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Hos 6:2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/zec/12/10/s_923010

Zec 12:9
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zec 12:11
In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zec 12:12
And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:13
The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:14
All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.
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When? End of the tribulation is when. There is no other possibility. That's it and that's all.

Zec 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
 
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Hmm, yea, I don't know where the topic of NAR,7MM might fit best,lol... It seems like just a few post back(#7587) you were pointing out that there was already a thread that had become an Calvinist playground. Where would it apply? Are the NAR and 7MM drawn to Trump or Biden? I don't know if it's from lack of knowledge on his part or if by necessity of gaining voters that he has them so closely surrounding him but he does. I wonder is this a just don't talk about it issue or if it's something else because the OP has his name written all over it.
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and ne'er the 2 shall meet. I would think Trump since the other side would like eradicate 'Christianity' in all its forms :unsure:

the NAR are drawn to their 'prophets'

from 'GOT QUESTIONS' for a simple answer. worth reading the actual article though

The New Apostolic Reformation, or NAR, is an unbiblical religious movement that emphasizes experience over Scripture, mysticism over doctrine, and modern-day “apostles” over the plain text of the Bible. Of particular distinction in the New Apostolic Reformation are the role and power of spiritual leaders and miracle-workers, the reception of “new” revelations from God, an over-emphasis on spiritual warfare, and a pursuit of cultural and political control in society. The seeking of signs and wonders in the NAR is always accompanied by blatantly false doctrine.

The New Apostolic Reformation teaches that God’s intended form of church governance is apostles and prophets, holding leadership over evangelists, pastors, and teachers. However, this has not been the case for the vast majority of Christian history. So, according to the New Apostolic Reformation, God began to restore prophets and apostles over the last thirty to forty years. Only now, as the church is properly guided by the appropriate spiritual leaders, can it fulfill its commission. This commission is seen as more than spiritual, as it includes cultural and political control.

sorry, the op has his name written all over it? anyway, discussion on this might be an interesting sidebar and somewhat related, but prob not the best idea IMO
 
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Niki7 said:
and ne'er the 2 shall meet. I would think Trump since the other side would like eradicate 'Christianity' in all its forms :unsure:

the NAR are drawn to their 'prophets'

from 'GOT QUESTIONS' for a simple answer. worth reading the actual article though

The New Apostolic Reformation, or NAR, is an unbiblical religious movement that emphasizes experience over Scripture, mysticism over doctrine, and modern-day “apostles” over the plain text of the Bible. Of particular distinction in the New Apostolic Reformation are the role and power of spiritual leaders and miracle-workers, the reception of “new” revelations from God, an over-emphasis on spiritual warfare, and a pursuit of cultural and political control in society. The seeking of signs and wonders in the NAR is always accompanied by blatantly false doctrine.

The New Apostolic Reformation teaches that God’s intended form of church governance is apostles and prophets, holding leadership over evangelists, pastors, and teachers. However, this has not been the case for the vast majority of Christian history. So, according to the New Apostolic Reformation, God began to restore prophets and apostles over the last thirty to forty years. Only now, as the church is properly guided by the appropriate spiritual leaders, can it fulfill its commission. This commission is seen as more than spiritual, as it includes cultural and political control.

sorry, the op has his name written all over it? anyway, discussion on this might be an interesting sidebar and somewhat related, but prob not the best idea IMO
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hmm, And see I don't see either of the political parties having much chance against them in the long run. Why is as soon they have total control over the GOP then they will begin to run Democrats against Democrats saying the whole time they are DINO's, way too far left ect. ,,,Their ambition is to take over both parties and the whole earth(not sure who's spotted that yet but by dominion-ism they mean the earth,lol).

As for the NAR I wasn't sure if it was the same group you were referring to when you first ask because they have changed their names so many times over the years to disassociate themselves with Jim Jones(and others), but Latter Rain,Word of Faith,,Krishna Venta,British Israelism,7MM, NAR ect. all have common roots and teachings(too many splinter groups to keep track of all the name's). Anyway when you ask about NAR I was thinking the Calvinist had a new thing they were referring to as NAR similar to TULIP or something, I understood you were referring to New Apostolic Reformation within the next post or so. A misunderstanding on my part when I said I had not heard of them I was alive when most of them were in full swing.
 
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hmm, And see I don't see either of the political parties having much chance against them in the long run. Why is as soon they have total control over the GOP then they will begin to run Democrats against Democrats saying the whole time they are DINO's, way too far left ect. ,,,Their ambition is to take over both parties and the whole earth(not sure who's spotted that yet but by dominion-ism they mean the earth,lol).

As for the NAR I wasn't sure if it was the same group you were referring to when you first ask because they have changed their names so many times over the years to disassociate themselves with Jim Jones(and others), but Latter Rain,Word of Faith,,Krishna Venta,British Israelism,7MM, NAR ect. all have common roots and teachings(too many splinter groups to keep track of all the name's). Anyway when you ask about NAR I was thinking the Calvinist had a new thing they were referring to as NAR similar to TULIP or something, I understood you were referring to New Apostolic Reformation within the next post or so. A misunderstanding on my part when I said I had not heard of them I was alive when most of them were in full swing.
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well you know what scripture says...you can make your plans, but the outcome is in God's hands

We can make our plans, but the final outcome is in God’s hands. Proverbs 16:1

I am pretty sure that NAR is still NAR.......they believe in the Trinity... not like some of these other groups you are bringing up

quite the mess, eh?
 
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well you know what scripture says...you can make your plans, but the outcome is in God's hands

We can make our plans, but the final outcome is in God’s hands. Proverbs 16:1

I am pretty sure that NAR is still NAR.......they believe in the Trinity... not like some of these other groups you are bringing up

quite the mess, eh?
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No really it was a mistake on my part in thinking NAR was something completely new that the younger people were using or something,lol... And Yep here in Texas some of the groups that have taken over (Dan and Farris wilks of the Assembly of Yahweh 7th day) don't believe in the Trinity nor do they consider themselves as Christian's(shy away from being called Christians)... Nevertheless they are the other half of the millions of dollars backing the GOP in Texas.
 
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Sad day for sure!

I see where Trump, who is getting beat on the Abortion Issue, and the Right is pushing for a Nation wide ban is now considering Abortions for short terms [15 weeks or something like that].

Mar 20, 2024 — NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that he'd support a national ban on abortions around 15 weeks of pregnancy

I knew he would fold.

So glad I am not voting because whoever wins those who voted are guilty for supporting it.
 
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Here is something Trump should have done but didn't!

Pardon Julian Assange.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Sad day for sure!

I see where Trump, who is getting beat on the Abortion Issue, and the Right is pushing for a Nation wide ban is now considering Abortions for short terms [15 weeks or something like that].

Mar 20, 2024 — NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that he'd support a national ban on abortions around 15 weeks of pregnancy

I knew he would fold.

So glad I am not voting because whoever wins those who voted are guilty for supporting it.
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Guilty of supporting what?
 
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Moses_Young said:
Perhaps he was waiting for the "opportune moment"? ;)

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Lol
He got bad advice unfortunately.
Hopefully he will be wiser who he puts in "positions of authority" next time, I think he will.
It would be especially good if he avoided the forever war, war mongers.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Sad day for sure!

I see where Trump, who is getting beat on the Abortion Issue, and the Right is pushing for a Nation wide ban is now considering Abortions for short terms [15 weeks or something like that].

Mar 20, 2024 — NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that he'd support a national ban on abortions around 15 weeks of pregnancy

I knew he would fold.

So glad I am not voting because whoever wins those who voted are guilty for supporting it.
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Well I think that abortion has to be defeated in the hearts of minds of people first and then the law can catch up.
People need to be re-educated.
I see a lot of ground work being done by Catholics, you know Catholics always wonder why the other churches are not there with them on the streets, they have a point.
 
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