Gays Win Suit Against ChristianMingle.Com

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Mitspa

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If one is sitting in church, I'm not sure how one is engaging to begin with... The person is sitting in service. Now sure, a person could be having lustful thoughts (happens in every single service at every single church). Not sure if you're referring to that. But yes, it would be hard for an addict to drink a bottle of whiskey during the sermon. That same sermon, though, has people with sinful thoughts. So if a homosexual was sitting in a service, I'm not sure how he or she would be engaging unless he or she was having sinful thoughts. But that goes back again to the addict sitting right next to, behind, or in front of you.


I do agree with your last sentence, though. You can say that about all struggles in life (mental health, in particular, as there's still a stigma associated with it). I think the church has lost its purpose as whole, in my opinion.
Have you EVER even read the New testament and how sin in the church is dealt with? I don't think you have a clue how God intended His Church to deal with issues of sin.
 
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They have muslim dating sites too, I wonder what would happen if the gays hit up a muslim dating site with demands to make room for men on men and women on women there.
 
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I'd say this belongs in the conspiracy forum. Its nonsense. Sorry ,just how I see it.
Then you cannot see far enough..... yet. We're not in the last days anymore..... but in the final hours.
 

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I would rather see the site closed down before seeing it have options for "m4m" and "w4w". That sends a terrible message to anyone visiting. They should make a public stand and say "if we must go against Gods word, then we would rather shut down our website".

Imagine the message that would send. Will the world try to call it "bigotry"? Yeah, of course they will : p But for those who are seeking God, and not acceptance from the world, it would be inspirational.
 
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Christianmingle isnt really owned by a christian is it? I read that it is owned by Sparks networks even though it marketed for christians and a christian site as far as a place where christians might meet, I dont know if I would bet on the integrity of the company to be christian in the sense of chosing between God and profits (money) would you?

I was actually reading up yesterday on sites called christian which arent and are controlled by socks for the most part, and I cant help but believe them
 

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If thats the case, I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt fight. Though Im surprised theyd refuse to allow it on their site. I mean, Id think thered have to be like a request given before sueing them? I dont know the law for that at all, but Id imagine there would have at least been a push before that resort.
 
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That actually got me thinking, if a Muslim couple decided to sue them for having a Christian dating site, would they win, too?
Perhaps..... but most real muslims want to kill christians, not beat them.
 

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Christianmingle isnt really owned by a christian is it? I read that it is owned by Sparks networks even though it marketed for christians and a christian site as far as a place where christians might meet, I dont know if I would bet on the integrity of the company to be christian in the sense of chosing between God and profits (money) would you?
I dug around, and you are correct. Christian Mingle is owned by Sparks Networks Inc, a publicly traded corp, that specializes is specialty niche dating sites several of which are religious but not exclusively. It's original dating sites were for Jewish persons so I would gander to say that it's primary stockholders when it was founded were Jewish not Christian.
 
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If thats the case, I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt fight. Though Im surprised theyd refuse to allow it on their site. I mean, Id think thered have to be like a request given before sueing them? I dont know the law for that at all, but Id imagine there would have at least been a push before that resort.
This is where I read about it

Who Owns Christian Mingle? - SingleRoots

Which is basically marketing to christians under the name christian but it itself is not christian just getting its piece of the pie through providing an avenue for christians to find one another (since church picnics dont seem to be working lol)

But they have black dating sites, muslim dating sites and even gay christian dating sites, I saw one for compatible partners, so why chose to sue an athiest (or unbeliever) owned dating site for christians concerning making way for gays?

There just seems like somethings off in that
 
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I dug around, and you are correct. Christian Mingle is owned by Sparks Networks Inc, a publicly traded corp, that specializes is specialty niche dating sites several of which are religious but not exclusively. It's original dating sites were for Jewish persons so I would gander to say that it's primary stockholders when it was founded were Jewish not Christian.
I suppose you cant really expect someone to stand up in the face of that kind of thing if they arent christian but if folks believe they are christian that might really be confusing as to why they are not fighting it, it can send the wrong message I would think.
 
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Enjoying your freedom to run a private company without government dictatorship? Thank a soldier

 

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God says sin is sin...He doesn't weight one more than the other...
People who live the Gay lifestyle don't need to be shunned by us...
we are called to lead...we are called to help others...i say go ahead
witness to them...let God "straighten them out"...sorry for the pun..
we can't fix anyone...i say let them in...and send them to God to do what
He wills for them...jmo....so glad no one kept me out of the church cause of my sins...
God says sin is sin...He doesn't weight one more than the other... So do you get equally angry about every sin that is committed? Say someone steals a pen from you and the same day someone burns down your house. Both sins are "equally bad", so would you get equally angry about each situation? Also, since both deeds are equally bad, the punishment should be the same, right?

If sins are all equally bad our justice system is royally screwed up because judges aren't handing down the same sentence/punishment for all offenses. If your opinion is that all sins are equally bad, I presume you're outraged by our flawed justice system and it's inability to understand all offenses deserve equal and all criminals should get the same punishment/sentencing.

People who live the Gay lifestyle don't need to be shunned by us... Agreed.

He wills for them...jmo....so glad no one kept me out of the church cause of my sins...
There is a difference between sinners going to church while trying to become better people and sinners going to church and intending to force the congregation to accept their sinful activity.
 

Test_F_i_2_Luv

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Another sad day in America. A judge has ruled that the dating site ChristianMingle.com must allow same-sex matches.

On another note, in Canada, Trudeau participated in Pride Day.

Even so come, Lord Jesus, come.
Title to the thread should include the word "mafia".

And, since there are 50+ gender identities, I think it's more accurate to refer to them as the LBGTQRSTUVWXYZ community.
 

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Enjoying your freedom to run a private company without government dictatorship? Thank a soldier

Enjoying your government with freedom for an anarchist? Thank your God.

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
(Rom 13:1)
 
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They do have dating sites for all kinds, they have them for both farmers and for the rich (after more of a social status type thing) and dating sites for the fat admirers types as well as for blacks and asians etc (which is size and color preference deal) as well as for christians and muslims (religious/ heteros) and also believing homosexuals (who prefer their own kind). Makes no sense (except for their seeking monetary gain) as to why on earth gays would target that door, when there are others specially for them (unless being spiteful). Perhaps they just want to shake a few cages and a few bucks from the company that owns it (in a service to christians) while making a way in there as well (knowing the company is less likely to stand for anything of real conviction concerning it (being unbelievers) and so more for the profits. To bring a "christian site" (in name only) under either way would only make it appear as a kind of victory on their part on a much larger scale than what it really is.

I betcha they would fear for their lives to try anything like that with muslims,

If they sincerely wanted to be part of some dating community they could very easily join the other non christian owned site for gay christians seeking their own kind there. I would think, especially if that was really what they were seeking.

Why gravitate to the straight bar demanding rights participate in dating your own kind there while bypassing the gay bar itself where you can is what I am thinking.
 
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Enjoying your government with freedom for an anarchist? Thank your God.

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
(Rom 13:1)
Lol freedom for an Anarchist? Anarchists are naturally free as we see being slaughtered for speaking out against a government's evils to be the same as speaking out against the evils of the Italian Mafia. The problem with Statists is that they think they need permission from a government to be free.

Lol and I love how you are all for Romans 13:1 until Brits rebel against their governing authority, then the passage gets tossed out of the window because these rebellious Brits are now "MURICAN HEROES!!!!". Either Romans 13:1 applies or it doesn't. Either stomp on your American flag and subject yourself to your REAL authorities (The British Government) or live in your rebellious nature as an "American", ignoring Romans 13:1

Sorry big guy, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Enjoying being an American? Thank your G-oh wait the Bible speaks out against rebelling against your authorities and claiming false statehood.

 
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Can you not see the difference in telling this Christian group they must approve gay relationships ? We don't as Christians promote any form of ungodliness, even if some may be involved. You are not tryin to be honest about this..you are doing that same ole thing you and other always do ..trying to approve or excuse sinful and deviant behavior by pointing to some possible sin in others. I'm sure that dating site does not allow or promote adultery either if it comes to their knowledge.
It's not hard to read what my first comment was in this thread when I referred to homosexuality as a sin. So you swung and missed with the middle of your portion... But I was talking about welcoming gays to church. Kayla is correct in that the message changes them, not for them. You, on the other hand, are preaching keeping them out in its entirety. You don't witness to someone by saying "God loves you and He wants to change you. But you cannot walk through those doors." We don't say the same thing to the people who are alcoholics or who are lusting. There's a difference between letting them just walk over the church and getting what they want (which is their sin) versus having them in the church and witnessing to then, praying they hear the Holy Spirit and that they allow God to change them. Your comments are suggesting you do not want the latter to happen. When Jesus said "Come as you are", that includes the gays. And no, that doesn't mean " Stay as you are" as you try to think or twist it to be.
 

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We draw the line where the Bible draws it. You are welcome to come but the message doesn't change FOR you, it CHANGES you.
I know you've mentioned you've had pastors in your family. How would they minister to a gay in he or she came to a service? I'm honestly curious. Or if a gay were to come to Celebrate Recovery and maybe even join a step study. Is he or she not allowed? Cause the program was designed to change all bad habits.
 
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It's not hard to read what my first comment was in this thread when I referred to homosexuality as a sin. So you swung and missed with the middle of your portion... But I was talking about welcoming gays to church. Kayla is correct in that the message changes them, not for them. You, on the other hand, are preaching keeping them out in its entirety. You don't witness to someone by saying "God loves you and He wants to change you. But you cannot walk through those doors." We don't say the same thing to the people who are alcoholics or who are lusting. There's a difference between letting them just walk over the church and getting what they want (which is their sin) versus having them in the church and witnessing to then, praying they hear the Holy Spirit and that they allow God to change them. Your comments are suggesting you do not want the latter to happen. When Jesus said "Come as you are", that includes the gays. And no, that doesn't mean " Stay as you are" as you try to think or twist it to be.
Straw man ..I never said to bar them from the gospel in anyway...but the gospel don't change to allow gays to feel their deviant behavior is acceptable with God ... where did Jesus say "come as you are" ? Jesus said I am the light and those who love the light will come to Me... He said blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness
 
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I know you've mentioned you've had pastors in your family. How would they minister to a gay in he or she came to a service? I'm honestly curious. Or if a gay were to come to Celebrate Recovery and maybe even join a step study. Is he or she not allowed? Cause the program was designed to change all bad habits.
Really very simple..you teach the holiness and biblical standards within the context of the true grace of God ..anyone who humbles themselves to submit to Gods will, has a place. Those who declare their rights to sin is above God rights to demand they forsake that sin...must be warned and if they wont repent? then send them on their way.