Immigration Invasion

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maxwel

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Nationalism is great in it proper context. If it is in opposition to the kingdom of God in Christ and what that stands for then we are no different than Cain.
Like all things, the love for your country should be balanced.

It should be balanced just like the love for your family.

You should prioritize your own family above other families; NOT to withhold help to other families, but so your own family is a solid place to stand, so that you can reach out and help others.

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Dude653

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As to the Nation, these 4000 Honduran people are the enemy. Whether they are oppressed remains to be learned. Just because they are oppressed doesn't give them the right to oppress others.

Christianity cannot work in unison with the State if the State is opposed to Christianity. The more third world peoples you bring in to the State, the more anti-Christian the State becomes. This is why the U.S. was so great when it was. It was Christian. From top to bottom. The State and Church could move together. That is gone.

Quantrill
Why is this guy still here after making blatant racist comments? Now I remember why I left here
 

stand2

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The "push me/pull me" world that makes us want to reach out and help others. God speaks and we listen. Maybe we just need to boil everything down to rock bottom........separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. How do you apply God to a Godless people. So many of my nieces and nephews don't believe in God (depressing) as do much of the "zero" generation. They will outright tell you. They have been hammered to fit the mold of the progressive left since childhood. Now we have people banging on the doors of our nation wanting..................WHAT?
Why would anyone march in a crowd up to my door that is bound to raise questions as to their motive for wanting entrance into my home. I have seen no American flags........no Christian flags.......no talk of wanting to be an American.............bottom line..........sorry, you are a stranger to me..........and I was raised not to trust strangers.
 

hornetguy

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I saw a stand-up comic doing a bit about nationalism. I would post it here but it has a lot of profanity.
"We saved France's butt in ww2"
Really? Who's we?. I got pretty drunk last night but I dont remember going to France
Seriously, Dude? You ever hear of a small event called D-Day? The day that over 2500 US troops were killed storming the beaches in Normandy? That's in France, by the way, which had been conquered and occupied by the Nazis.... you should drink less, brother... :)
 

Locutus

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Seriously, Dude? You ever hear of a small event called D-Day? The day that over 2500 US troops were killed storming the beaches in Normandy? That's in France, by the way, which had been conquered and occupied by the Nazis.... you should drink less, brother... :)
Can you claim to be part of the "we" that "saved" France"

No - "they" did back then, not you or we.

During World War II the Government was again forced to borrow heavily in order to finance war with the Axis powers. By the end of the conflict Britain's debt exceeded 200 percent of GDP, as it had done after the end of the Napoleonic Wars.[5] As during World War I, the US again provided the major source of funds, this time via low-interest loans and also through the Lend Lease Act. Even at the end of the war Britain needed American financial assistance, and in 1945 Britain took a loan for $586 million (about £145 million at 1945 exchange rates), and in addition a further $3.7 billion line of credit (about £930m at 1945 exchange rates). The debt was to be paid off in 50 annual repayments commencing in 1950. Some of these loans were only paid off in the early 21st century. On 31 December 2006, Britain made a final payment of about $83m (£45.5m) and thereby discharged the last of its war loans from the US.

By the end of World War II Britain had amassed an immense debt of £21 billion. Much of this was held in foreign hands, with around £3.4 billion being owed overseas (mainly to creditors in the United States), a sum which represented around one third of annual GDP.[10]


The cost of war not including the human toil.
 

Dude653

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Seriously, Dude? You ever hear of a small event called D-Day? The day that over 2500 US troops were killed storming the beaches in Normandy? That's in France, by the way, which had been conquered and occupied by the Nazis.... you should drink less, brother... :)
I wasn't at D-Day so "we" didnt do squat
Apparently you missed the entire point
 

Dude653

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you may not know it, because I don't think you have been around in awhile

but he believes that a civil war is needed and the country should become 2...liberal and not liberal with lots of guns and 'stuff' (and I'm not anti-gun...but I am anti that attit
yeah that's part of the reason why I left here because there are too many toxic people here
 

hornetguy

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I wasn't at D-Day so "we" didnt do squat
Apparently you missed the entire point
No, I understand what you were trying to state... you apparently missed that we were discussion nationalism, or the pride in being a citizen of the United States. The reason for the pride is because of what the US has DONE, and what it IS. In the sense that our nation, the US, did what they did in France, and other parts of Europe, Africa, Italy, the Pacific (where my father fought), I say yes, WE did it. WE (the US) saved France's butt, as the guy you quoted stated.

To ignore, or minimize what our citizens have done for the past 200 or so years is doing them a grave dis-service. If we only count the greatness one generation at a time, then we are no better than animals, living only for "my" lifetime. What happened previously doesn't matter, and who cares what happens next?
 

p_rehbein

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To the families of the brave men and women who have given the ultimate sacrifice for our Nation, our deepest sympathy for their loss . To those men and women...........our undying gratitude.

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p_rehbein

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GOD AND THE SOLDIER WE ADORE
IN TIMES OF WAR AND NO MORE
THE BATTLE ENDED AND ALL THINGS RIGHTED
GOD IS FORGOTTEN AND THE SOLDIER SLIGHTED

(Author unknown)

 

jameen

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Is it true that inviting immigrants to live in the States is the only way to solve the aging population?
 

Dude653

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there are a few here that are long term

put 'em on ignore. place becomes nicer
Well this guy literally said black people can't be blessed by God so I'm trying to figure out why admin and hasn't tossed him out of here.
This is ridiculous
 

prove-all

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Nov. 30 DHS: Convicted murderer arrested for illegal entry as part of migrant caravan
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ber-arrested-part-migrant-caravan/2163762002/

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WASHINGTON – A convicted murderer from Honduras was arrested after illegally entering the U.S.
with members of the migrant caravan, Department of Homeland Security officials said Friday.

The arrest Nov. 24 came the same day that an alleged member of the MS-13 crime gang from
Honduras was arrested for entering the U.S. illegally, officials said.

Advocates for the migrant caravan of thousands of Central Americans heading across Mexico
to the U.S. have challenged federal estimates that 600 criminals were traveling in the groups.
But U.S. officials said the latest arrests, combined with arrests in Mexico, justify the estimates.

“As DHS confirmed weeks ago, there are at least 600 known criminals in the caravan flow,” said
Tyler Houlton, a department spokesman. “The fact that Border Patrol arrested a murderer within
the first caravan-related apprehensions at our southern border proves how real the threat of the
caravan is to our national security and public safety.”.........
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https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-...st-murderer-crossing-illegally-others-caravan
 

7seasrekeyed

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Well this guy literally said black people can't be blessed by God so I'm trying to figure out why admin and hasn't tossed him out of here.
This is ridiculous

I totally agree with you

like I said to Angela, he apparently does not realize that Christ Himself was not nordic
 

Jennie-Mae

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Like all things, the love for your country should be balanced.

It should be balanced just like the love for your family.

You should prioritize your own family above other families; NOT to withhold help to other families, but so your own family is a solid place to stand, so that you can reach out and help others.

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This was very well said.