Immigration Invasion

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hornetguy

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There is nothing wrong with this topic. Discussing the "invasion" of thousands of illegals is a valid topic in the news. It did go a little off track, racially, but the offender has been spanked and sent on his way (apparently), so we should drop that issue and move forward with the OP's topic.
 

Oncefallen

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message to admin - please delete post
I concur. thread should be deleted as well as the poster. it really lowers the Integrity of this forum.
There is nothing wrong with this topic. Discussing the "invasion" of thousands of illegals is a valid topic in the news. It did go a little off track, racially, but the offender has been spanked and sent on his way (apparently), so we should drop that issue and move forward with the OP's topic.
As Hornetguy has said, the topic in and of itself wasn't the problem, the problem was the direction it steered due to the more racist views of one user who is no longer with us.

If we were to remove every thread that took a somewhat divisive turn then the BDF and this forum would be relatively empty.
 

Leigh-conflicted

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i understand that being member for these many many years ,i was referring to the racist remarks not the discussion in general .Before the new site being a mod i could have just deleted the remarks but obviously now only admin can but i see the person has been dealt with ,Cheers to Admin :)
 

lightbearer

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I know one thing we need is an influx of motivated driven people that want more than they got. The kids and young adults in the Upper middle to lower class have in general no drive. As if everything should be handed to them. Until and if we wake up from this stupor the only thing that will be great again in America is the number of people with an Access Card from the Welfare office.
 

Dude653

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1 approximately 1000 unarmed people doesn't constitute an invasion
2. they are fleeing a violent country
3. they are not breaking any laws by coming here to request Asylum
 

prove-all

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1 approximately 1000 unarmed people doesn't constitute an invasion
2. they are fleeing a violent country
3. they are not breaking any laws by coming here to request Asylum
They can, just go to the proper check points to summit request for asylum.
First they need to leave there flags at the border, and quit climbing over the fences.

Unarmed ? rocks can kill just the same, just ask Able.
 

maxwel

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They can, just go to the proper check points to summit request for asylum.
First they need to leave there flags at the border, and quit climbing over the fences.

Unarmed ? rocks can kill just the same, just ask Able.
About a year ago a border guard was killed with a rock.

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maxwel

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According to U.S. law, rock throwing, depending on the situation, can be classified as a felony, and it can be considered assault with a deadly weapon... because you can kill someone with a rock.

Many other countries have similar laws.

If you don't understand this, walk up to any policeman, try to hit him in the head with a big rock, and see for yourself what happens.

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hornetguy

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1 approximately 1000 unarmed people doesn't constitute an invasion
2. they are fleeing a violent country
3. they are not breaking any laws by coming here to request Asylum
1. There are more than a thousand people hovering at the border. There were more than a thousand that attacked the border where the teargas was finally used... mostly young men, with a few women and kids thrown in for the photo-op.

2. They may be fleeing a violent country, as nearly every South American country is a violent country. Heck, you could be fleeing southern California or Detroit for the same reason.

3. Yes they are, by insisting on crashing across the border instead of going through the correct, lawful process for asylum-seekers. And I would hazard a guess that perhaps 2% of them are truly seeking "political asylum". The other 98% are here to make more money to send back to their families.... not to become citizens, but to make more money, get free housing, schooling, medical, food, etc, then to either go back home, or to bring more of their families over (illegally) to soak up more free housing, schooling, medical, food....


You should read what the people of Tijuana are saying about the influx of "immigrants". Of course, they are probably all racists...
 

p_rehbein

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According to U.S. law, rock throwing, depending on the situation, can be classified as a felony, and it can be considered assault with a deadly weapon... because you can kill someone with a rock.

Many other countries have similar laws.

If you don't understand this, walk up to any policeman, try to hit him in the head with a big rock, and see for yourself what happens.

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Bottles are the same...........only the liberal socialist Press thinks a person has to have a gun to seriously injure or kill someone......

Shoot, a HAM SANDWICH killed Mama Cass...........
 

Miri

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As far as I can tell (correct me if I’m wrong). Apart from the Native American Indians all US citizens are immigrants!
 

Oncefallen

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As far as I can tell (correct me if I’m wrong). Apart from the Native American Indians all US citizens are descended from immigrants!
My correction may seem nit picky but IMO there's a big difference between an immigrant and someone descended from immigrants and if you wanted to get really nit picky, even the Native tribes came here from somewhere.
 

Miri

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My correction may seem nit picky but IMO there's a big difference between an immigrant and someone descended from immigrants and if you wanted to get really nit picky, even the Native tribes came here from somewhere.
I was going to mention that the native tribes came from somewhere. But I thought it might be too deep to refer to the garden of Eden. Lol
 

prove-all

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I was going to mention that the native tribes came from somewhere.
But I thought it might be too deep to refer to the garden of Eden. Lol
the dispersion at the tower of babel maybe
 

Miri

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https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...-melting-pot-appear-overblown-if-youre-white/

What genetics is showing is that in fact white Americans are shockingly European to an incredibly high degree for a population with roots on this continent for 400 years. If we removed all the history that we take for granted we’d be amazed that the indigenous peoples had so little demographic impact, and, that the larger numbers of people of partial African ancestry did not move into the general “white” population.

But, with the rise in intermarriage and a clearly mixed-race Latino population the lines between the races will become blurred genetically more and more. A substantial number of American children today are multiracial, and that fraction looks to increase. If 23andMe did a survey of American genetics 25 years from now I’d be much more amenable to the interpretation that the media is putting on this survey.
 

Miri

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https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/...n-revealedand-were-not-as-British-as-we-think

  • English people have significantly less Irish ancestry (just 20% of their genetic make-up) on average compared to people living in Scotland (43.84%), Wales (31.99%) and Northern Ireland (48.49%). English residents do however have the highest amount of Scandinavian (9.39%) and Western European (French/German) (20.45%) ancestry.
  • Scottish residents have the highest amount of Finnish/Northwest Russian (1.31%) heritage, which is explained by their geographic proximity.
  • Welsh residents have the highest proportion of ancestry from the Iberian Peninsula (Spain/Portugal) in the UK (3%).
 

Miri

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All this makes one stop and think. It does me anyway.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/theres-no-such-thing-pure-european-or-anyone-else


That was just one of many episodes of migration and mixing. The first Europeans came from Africa via the Middle East and settled there about 43,000 years ago. But some of those pioneers, such as a 40,000-year-old individual from Romania, have little connection to today’s Europeans, Reich says.

His team studied DNA from 51 Europeans and Asians who lived 7000 to 45,000 years ago. They found that most of the DNA in living Europeans originated in three major migrations, starting with hunter-gatherers who came from the Middle East as the glaciers retreated 19,000 to 14,000 years ago. In a second migration about 9000 years ago, farmers from northwestern Anatolia, in what is now Greece and Turkey, moved in.

That massive wave of farmers washed across the continent. Ancient DNA records their arrival in Germany, where they are linked with the Linear Pottery culture, 6900 to 7500 years ago. A 7000-year-old woman from Stuttgart, Germany, for example, has the farmers’ genetic signatures, setting her apart from eight hunter-gatherers who lived just 1000 years earlier in Luxembourg and Sweden. Among people living today, Sardinians retain the most DNA from those early farmers, whose genes suggest that they had brown eyes and dark hair.

The farmers moved in family groups and stuck to themselves awhile before mixing with local hunter-gatherers, according to a study in 2015 that used ancient DNA to calculate the ratio of men to women in the farming groups. That’s a stark contrast to the third major migration, which began about 5000 years ago when herders swept in from the steppe north of the Black Sea in what is now Russia. Those Yamnaya pastoralists herded cattle and sheep, and some rode newly domesticated horses, says archaeologist David Anthony of Hartwick College in Oneonta, New York.
 

Angela53510

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Bottles are the same...........only the liberal socialist Press thinks a person has to have a gun to seriously injure or kill someone......

Shoot, a HAM SANDWICH killed Mama Cass...........
Pretty sure it was a chicken bone!
 

jameen

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Tell me why inviting more immigrants will not solve the problem of the States' aging population?