Immigration Invasion

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Odelschwanck

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Tell me why inviting more immigrants will not solve the problem of the States' aging population?
Because immigrants age too?

Wait is this thread even about legal immigration?
 

Locutus

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Studies have shown that immigration has a net benefit on the economy.
 

Oncefallen

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Studies have shown that immigration has a net benefit on the economy.
Yes, controlled LEGAL immigration is good, but uncontrolled ILLEGAL immigration is not. Legal immigration insures that persons are properly vetted (no serious criminal backgrounds or health issues) and that they actually have a decent chance of gainful employment.

Uncontrolled illegal immigration sidesteps these safeguards and pretty much insures that diseases such as small pox and polio that have all but been eradicated in North America will be brought back across our borders, insures that criminal elements will cross, and also insures that many of thos illegal immigrants will be taken advantage of either by sex trafficers or other unscrupulous persons.
 

p_rehbein

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Pretty sure it was a chicken bone!
Hmm........maybe,.......always heard she choked on a bite of ham sandwich.........could google it, but that would be kinda creepy ........... :)
 

p_rehbein

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My correction may seem nit picky but IMO there's a big difference between an immigrant and someone descended from immigrants and if you wanted to get really nit picky, even the Native tribes came here from somewhere.
Saw a show on NG that told how the Native Americans came either across the land bridge between Russia and Alaska....and migrated South...........for North America

and for South America they came by longboat canoes or some such from the Pacific Islands somewhere........

It was interesting........but how factual.......who knows?
 

p_rehbein

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MAMA CASS

(folks just gotta know)

EXCERPT

that FBI had plotted to assassinate her, that she was pregnant with John Lennon’s child), the one that has become permanently entwined with her image is that she choked to death on a ham sandwich. The legend has a particularly cruel irony in that Cass Eliot’s weight was fodder for many brutish jokes about her physical appearance, and the choking rumor fostered the impression that she had somehow brought death upon herself through her “gluttony.” Even the minor details of the rumor were unkind to her legend: She supposedly choked to death on a sandwich (a cheap, pedestrian form of food), and the main ingredient of that sandwich was ham (which comes from pigs, an animal to whom overweight people are frequently likened).

HERE

FACT CHECK: Mama Cass Death Rumors - snopes.com
 

YDo

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Hmm........maybe,.......always heard she choked on a bite of ham sandwich.........could google it, but that would be kinda creepy ........... :)
It was neither. Why smear a dead woman when it takes more time to have self respect and look
up the facts ?
 

Angela53510

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Hmm........maybe,.......always heard she choked on a bite of ham sandwich.........could google it, but that would be kinda creepy ........... :)
We are both wrong, but you got the rumour right. In Canada, it was a chicken bone, but we were far from the source, There was a ham sandwich on her bedside table. Interesting, because she was Jewish, which I didn't know. I guess she wasn't kosher.

Here is my source, but several other sites, including a Jewish site, said the same thing.

"In 1974, Cass was in London where she was performing at the London Palladium to sold-out crowds. On the evening of July 29, 1974, after giving a spectacular performance, Cass tragically was the victim of a heart attack, which ended her life at the young age of 32. Many rumors circulated regarding her untimely death. These included a drug overdose, an FBI assassination plot, that she was pregnant with John Lennon’s child, and suicide. The most popular and resilient of these rumors was that she had choked to death while eating a ham sandwich.

The ham sandwich myth was fueled by the report of Dr. Anthony Greenburgh, the physician who first examined Cass after her death. Greenburgh reportedly told the Daily Express that “she appeared to have been eating a ham sandwich and drinking Coca-Cola while lying down—a very dangerous thing to do,” and continued, “she seemed to have choked on a ham sandwich.” He came to these conclusions from his first impression upon entering the scene, and he believed she died of asphyxia. Dr. Greenburgh completely overlooked the fact that the ham sandwich sitting on the table had not been touched.

The facts about Cass Elliot’s death were documented shortly after she died by Keith Simpson, one of Great Britain’s leading forensic pathologists at that time. The forensic autopsy showed there was “a heart problem leading to heart failure; there was no sandwich or any other item lodged in her throat or trachea; and she had had very little to eat the day before she died.” A routine drug screening showed no drugs were in her system. The cause of death was “heart failure due to fatty myocardial degeneration due to obesity.” That conclusion was controversial and disputed by American pathologists at that time. The theory exists that Cass had a cardiac conduction deficit. She frequently suffered fainting episodes that went unexplained."

https://www.medicalbag.com/what-killed-em/mama-cass-elliot/article/486654/

Mystery solved! She died of a heart attack at the age of 32. How sad!
 

p_rehbein

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It was neither. Why smear a dead woman when it takes more time to have self respect and look
up the facts ?
Why not read ALL of the comments afore ye jump in all JUDGMENTAL n sech?
 

YDo

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It was neither. Why smear a dead woman when it takes more time to have self respect and look
up the facts ?
An atheist actually disliked my remark above. Easier to thumbs down than to respect a woman and seek out the real reason she died. Thank God for Christian moral values that preclude us from smearing someone who is dead and can't fight against the lies odd fellows speak against them.

She didn't die from suffocating on food. That's a fact. Those insisting she did are quite simply lazy liars.
 

Angela53510

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There is a double post one from me and one from p_rehbein talking about her heart attack.

Perhaps you are the one that needs to read the thread before sounding off??
 

Hevosmies

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Yes, controlled LEGAL immigration is good, but uncontrolled ILLEGAL immigration is not. Legal immigration insures that persons are properly vetted (no serious criminal backgrounds or health issues) and that they actually have a decent chance of gainful employment.

Uncontrolled illegal immigration sidesteps these safeguards and pretty much insures that diseases such as small pox and polio that have all but been eradicated in North America will be brought back across our borders, insures that criminal elements will cross, and also insures that many of thos illegal immigrants will be taken advantage of either by sex trafficers or other unscrupulous persons.
Give this man a medal please.

You just wrote what I wanted to say in a more well constructed manner.
 

Angela53510

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Give this man a medal please.

You just wrote what I wanted to say in a more well constructed manner.

I couldn't find OnceFallen's post, but I will comment on it here. I agree they may be bringing diseases, especially viruses that have jumped the human/animal species barrier, like AIDS and Ebola.

But, they are not bringing small pox. It has been eradicated for years. In the whole world! (Although there may be a few in some secret lab in England I understand. Not sure why!)

Besides, I had the dreadful small pox vaccine as a child. You get a big pox on your arm, that leaves a scar, and you are really sick for days. If somehow small pox got out, I would be the one tending the sick, I guess! Sucks to be old!
 

YDo

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Why not read ALL of the comments afore ye jump in all JUDGMENTAL n sech?
Why cry when your pathetic judgment of a dead woman is pointed out as a lie? If you can't stand the heat don't spit in the kitchen.
You prefer to spread a rumor rather than seek the truth. That's pathetic. No one who points that out is in the wrong. You are wrong. You and those like you here.

Besides that, MC's death is not even in the ballpark of this discussion's topic. But someone just had to dump on a dead woman. And before Christmas.

If works did save, what would working to look like a rumor hound get ya? You may find out.
 

YDo

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There is a double post one from me and one from p_rehbein talking about her heart attack.

Perhaps you are the one that needs to read the thread before sounding off??
Too bad you don't sound off about rumor mongers.
Get your priorities straight.
Looks like my spouting off got the worst gossip spreaders to actually do the work and find the truth.

WORTH IT!
 
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The dems want illegal immigrants because they most certainly love them sooooo very much, erm, I mean they need votes.
 

Angela53510

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Too bad you don't sound off about rumor mongers.
Get your priorities straight.
Looks like my spouting off got the worst gossip spreaders to actually do the work and find the truth.

WORTH IT!
Let's see - you have just been attacking p_rehbein and now me, calling us rumour mongers. Are you even old enough to remember when this happened? And what was reported in the news?

And then we are "gossips?"?? I think not!

What I do see is a very angry person attacking long time members. Oh, were you a banned member returning? Your MO sure sounds familiar. (Not that I keep track of all the dysfunctional people here on CC.) You do seem to have some serious grudges. I hope you can learn to forgive people, even if they do not apologize. Because that is what God commands us to do.

"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. 23 So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift." Matt 5:22-24 ESV

"For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." Matt 6:14-15 NIV

Both verses from the Sermon on the Mount!
 

Angela53510

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The dems want illegal immigrants because they most certainly love them sooooo very much, erm, I mean they need votes.
Trudeau is doing the same thing in Canada. But, no one is falling for it anymore. He has crashed in the polls, achieving this all by himself. As for all those immigrants, hoping the fact they are not citizens mean they won't be able to vote for him in Oct. of next year. But who knows? If you need votes, you just change the rules, right?
 

YDo

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The Democrat virus has always exploited the needy. Building a nanny state that enslaves people to the government dole keeps the Democrats in office.
It is why they condemn Trump for wanting to protect our border. And his wanting to build the wall and stop the invasion of this country by those who are promised by active Democrats abroad all they could dream of if they but can find their way here.

The Democrat party enslaved the blacks after the Emancipation Proclamation. They enslave the illegals. They insure welfare carries across generations by rewarding unwed mothers with government monies, housing, and food. And take that all away if they marry.

The 2018 mid-term election was violated in at least 5 states by Democrat employees in the Office of Elections so as to insure they got the majority in the House. Whether they were actually lawfully elected or not, just so they could do everything in their power to further their agenda against the former Democrat turned Republican, president Donald J. Trump.

Democrats have always been an enemy of this country. And we'll all be paying for their party sedition and treason for decades to come.