Invasion authorization Bill

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iamsoandso

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Think we should kill unarmed people?

They would set the entire world against us as that would be cold blooded murder.

We need to deploy lots pepper spray and rubber bullets. That'll stop them.

It seems it's going to take a long,long,long,long time before it actually sinks in but eventually they'll figure it out and just pass HR2 and those unarmed NG wont be standing there unarmed and defenseless... Until then well even the migrants are smart enough to figure out they cant do anything... Pass the stinking bill and stop stalling.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Think we should kill unarmed people?

They would set the entire world against us as that would be cold blooded murder.

We need to deploy lots pepper spray and rubber bullets. That'll stop them.
I must not have been clear enough.

NO,
I do Not believe that they should kill illegals.
That's why I said tear gas and a few more soldiers along the border.

I don't believe that anyone should kill Americans either.
There have been bad guys in various uniforms that threatened to do so to many in LA according to the interviews, the witnesses. Apparently, some of the bad guys have o problem with murder.
Again, I do Not support them.
 
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Pass the stinking bill and stop stalling.

Most of the time the reason they won't pass the bill is because the liberals put a bunch of pork in it.

You have not studied the bill so you have no idea what all is in it.



I don't believe that anyone should kill Americans either.

Yeah well migrants are killing Americans and doing a lot of crime.

Some of them are coming over just to do crime and then go back

There have also been numerous cases of the Mexican military crossing our border and out military is so afraid they do nothing about it.

That's what we get for having a bunch of cross dressers in our military.
 

Nehemiah6

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Unless you are there to witness it personally, you cannot prove it's true regardless of who is reporting it.
When actual words are quoted accurately, and actual incidents are photographed, those are the facts. How they are interpreted depends on who is doing the interpretation. I don't have to be personally present and neither do you. So let's not get ridiculous. Even this cartoon is both factual and interpreted correctly.

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Even this cartoon is both factual and interpreted correctly.

That's probably true if the uni-party voted it in.

Speaker Johnson is supposed to be a Christian but it's starting to look like he's a closet liberal.

Maybe he's one of those girly men that like Joel Osteen
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Most of the time the reason they won't pass the bill is because the liberals put a bunch of pork in it.

You have not studied the bill so you have no idea what all is in it.






Yeah well migrants are killing Americans and doing a lot of crime.

Some of them are coming over just to do crime and then go back

There have also been numerous cases of the Mexican military crossing our border and out military is so afraid they do nothing about it.

That's what we get for having a bunch of cross dressers in our military.

I think that reason is why the military lost a lot of recruits and the shots are the biggest.
When they recruit illegals, they'll get what they want.
 

iamsoandso

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Most of the time the reason they won't pass the bill is because the liberals put a bunch of pork in it.

You have not studied the bill so you have no idea what all is in it.






Yeah well migrants are killing Americans and doing a lot of crime.

Some of them are coming over just to do crime and then go back

There have also been numerous cases of the Mexican military crossing our border and out military is so afraid they do nothing about it.

That's what we get for having a bunch of cross dressers in our military.

lol, that's baffling you would say this do you realize how many times in this thread alone I have posted the link for the text to HR2 from Congress.gov. ? Have you read the thread from the beginning to this point? Here's the link,,, "again..." to the bill you think I haven't studied.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2

Now go to the top left of the page and look for the word "sponsor" ,,,the sponsor should be Mario Diaz-Balart ,,,click on the blue hyper link and it will take you to his page so you can see he is not a liberal he is a REPUBLICAN. Then go down right below the box and find "summery, text, actions ect." about half way across is the word "cosponsors"(click on it) and it will open and you can see the list of 21 cosponsors of HR2... go down the list of names and tell me which one of them that wrote HR2 is the liberal Democrat your talking about...
 

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When actual words are quoted accurately, and actual incidents are photographed, those are the facts. How they are interpreted depends on who is doing the interpretation. I don't have to be personally present and neither do you. So let's not get ridiculous. Even this cartoon is both factual and interpreted correctly.

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The situation is so evil. First, the $1.2 trillion omnibus bill is over and above the Pelosi Budget which is already deficit spending, so this is 100% deficit spending. But there's more! They have these that only go out for six months, so 1.2 trillion becomes 2.4 trillion in deficit spending above the $1 trillion in deficit spending on the Pelosi budget.

So instead of passing a single budget in one year that is $3.5 trillion more than the $4.5 trillion in revenue the US gets, they do it this way. When you hear that the US makes $4.5 trillion a year and this budget is for $1.2 trillion it doesn't register how ridiculous this is. Instead they should say we will spend $8 trillion in 12 months while we only take in $4.5 trillion.
 

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Yep, and illegals would have no problem is ordered to kill Americans.

I'm glad I'm not from here. You fellas go a mess going on.
yes, we do, not really affected much ( yet) in my area, but parts of the u.s. are in deep trouble..
 

Nehemiah6

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Instead they should say we will spend $8 trillion in 12 months while we only take in $4.5 trillion.
Or budget for only $4 trillion in 12 months and leave the rest in reserve. No genuine budget fails to cover all twelve months, so this is simply a game played by politicians.

There is no honesty, integrity, loyalty, or patriotism left in the US government. Were the Founding Fathers to return, they would have all these traitors arrested and shot. Every spending bill which has been approved since Trump took office (or perhaps even before) has included HUGE wasteful spending and the HUGE rewarding of evildoers. And funding for abortions (infanticide)!

If a serious-minded budget commission were to carefully review these pork-fests before they were even viewed, they would probably find that 70% of of that spending is totally unnecessary and uncalled for. Government (actually tax-payer) budgets are supposed to be (1) balanced and (2) dedicated to essential expenditures which the private sector cannot handle. And no spending bill should be more than ten pages (not 1,000 pages which will never get read and are presented at 3:00 a.m. in the morning to make a farce out of everything). This is so nonsensical and farcical yet no one say "Unacceptable".

National security, law enforcement, maintenance and development of necessary infrastructure, medical facilities, government (with the minimum of waste), courts and the justice system etc. are their only responsibility. Corporate and individual welfare payments are not their business. A proper system for assisting those who are totally disabled would mean that veterans (and other totally disabled people) get top priority and more than adequate compensation. Buying votes with tax dollars is a crime but that is now a constant.
 
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lol, that's baffling you would say this do you realize how many times in this thread alone I have posted the link for the text to HR2 from Congress.gov. ? Have you read the thread from the beginning to this point? Here's the link,,, "again..." to the bill you think I haven't studied.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2

Now go to the top left of the page and look for the word "sponsor" ,,,the sponsor should be Mario Diaz-Balart ,,,click on the blue hyper link and it will take you to his page so you can see he is not a liberal he is a REPUBLICAN. Then go down right below the box and find "summery, text, actions ect." about half way across is the word "cosponsors"(click on it) and it will open and you can see the list of 21 cosponsors of HR2... go down the list of names and tell me which one of them that wrote HR2 is the liberal Democrat your talking about...

So what reasons do republicans give for not wanting to vote for the bill?

There is something in it that is not good for the country..
 

iamsoandso

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So what reasons do republicans give for not wanting to vote for the bill?

There is something in it that is not good for the country..

lol, If they pass it in the Senate and it's signed into law then Biden would have to shut down the border because it becomes law(modifies the 1986 act) and that would mean Trump can't use the border crises issue in the upcoming presidential debates(it would help Biden and hurt Trump)...
 
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lol, If they pass it in the Senate and it's signed into law then Biden would have to shut down the border because it becomes law(modifies the 1986 act) and that would mean Trump can't use the border crises issue in the upcoming presidential debates(it would help Biden and hurt Trump)...

Any president has power on his own without this bill being passed to control the border crises thru executive order which is how Trump had brought down illegal border crossings to their lowest levels in decades during his administration.

So, it's total and complete BS to say biden cannot do anything about the border without this bull. Sorry to hear you have fallen for the liberal Bullloney Brothers propaganda. You sound like an under cover liberal. That's too bad for you.

Sounds like a good reason to NOT pass this bill because it's not republicans job to help biden get re-elected.

So, we need to think of the greater good here to keep biden looking bad so he'll lose the election.

This is how the liberals play ball and it's good to see the repubs are playing on the same level for a change.
 

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iamsoandso

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Any president has power on his own without this bill being passed to control the border crises thru executive order which is how Trump had brought down illegal border crossings to their lowest levels in decades during his administration.

So, it's total and complete BS to say biden cannot do anything about the border without this bull. Sorry to hear you have fallen for the liberal Bullloney Brothers propaganda. You sound like an under cover liberal. That's too bad for you.

Sounds like a good reason to NOT pass this bill because it's not republicans job to help biden get re-elected.

So, we need to think of the greater good here to keep biden looking bad so he'll lose the election.

This is how the liberals play ball and it's good to see the repubs are playing on the same level for a change.

The border was never completely closed not even during Covid-19(it was restricted) Skip the media(both MSM and alternate SM and go straight to the source of the law). https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10283 <-------Neither Trump nor Biden can/could close the border without Congressional Approval.
 
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Neither Trump nor Biden can/could close the border without Congressional Approval.

That's false.

I remember when Trump closed all border crossing with Mexico for a few days and the news media got all bent out of shape.

I'm seeing a pattern here with you taking the talking points of the liberals as being true.

You need help from following liberal propaganda.
 
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That's probably true if the uni-party voted it in.

Speaker Johnson is supposed to be a Christian but it's starting to look like he's a closet liberal.

Maybe he's one of those girly men that like Joel Osteen
The Republican leaders tend to be the first to sell out or short. Principal is always ignored for money.
 
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The Republican leaders tend to be the first to sell out or short. Principal is always ignored for money.

Yeah, they always cave to the democrats

I think much of this has to do with them being scared of the news media who will talk trash about them if they don't go along with the dems, and that makes it harder to re-elected or so they think.

It doesn't really matter anyway since all the young people coming in to voting age will all vote liberal.

Before long the dems won't even have to cheat to win elections
 

iamsoandso

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That's false.

I remember when Trump closed all border crossing with Mexico for a few days and the news media got all bent out of shape.

I'm seeing a pattern here with you taking the talking points of the liberals as being true.

You need help from following liberal propaganda.

lol, And if you had read the link from Congress.gov. I gave you instead of posting an argument 4 minutes later you would know why they overturned Trump trying to do it....